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Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:43 pm
by natty dread
I thought some of you might find this interesting... The idea of making a stereoscopic map popped in my head suddenly, and I wanted to give it a shot... so here's a quick little proof-of-concept doodle:

show: How to look at stereoscopic images


Parallel view:

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Cross-eye view:

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Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:00 pm
by DiM
imagine squinting your eyes, grinding your teeth, sweating like mad trying to see the stereoscopic image during a speed freestyle game. :lol:

and after all that you see this guy:
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Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:08 pm
by koontz1973
DiM wrote:and after all that you see this guy:
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Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:23 pm
by natty dread
DiM wrote:imagine squinting your eyes, grinding your teeth, sweating like mad trying to see the stereoscopic image during a speed freestyle game. :lol:


Lol, but I wasn't thinking of CC maps when I thought of this... I just thought it would be a cool thing to do.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:19 pm
by Industrial Helix
I'm terrible at these games. I can never seem to look at the image just right.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:08 am
by natty dread
It takes practice.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:15 am
by natty dread
Here's a cross-eye version - I find them much easier to view than the parallel images. For cross-eye stereoscopy, you need to cross your eyes so that your left eye looks at the right image and right eye looks at the left image... It's easy, you just cross your eyes until the third image appears, then just sort of focus on the third image.

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Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:24 pm
by The Bison King
Yeah cross eyed is easier.

Neato Torpedo!

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:44 pm
by WILLIAMS5232
now i need to go to the eye doctor i think,

thanks. :sick:

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:10 pm
by MrBenn
After about 15 minutes my wife asked me what I was doing and said I looked really stupid.

I couldn;t see anything other than the two map images and gave myself a headache.

Thanks for that. <sigh>

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:44 pm
by Telvannia
Does anyone have the old red and blue 3D glasses :lol:

Now there is a thought, castle battle; supersized and 3D :-s

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:26 am
by natty dread
MrBenn wrote:After about 15 minutes my wife asked me what I was doing and said I looked really stupid.

I couldn;t see anything other than the two map images and gave myself a headache.

Thanks for that. <sigh>


Maybe I'm not the best at explaining the technique...

Try the cross-eye version, it's much easier. All you do is cross your eyes, like when looking at something really close. Try putting a finger next to the tip of your nose and staring at your finger, then just slowly move the finger away while keeping your eyes in that position. You should see the 2 map images as 3 images now, with the middle image being a sort of overlay of the 2. Once you can focus your gaze on the 3rd image, you should see it in 3d.

Again, it takes practice... and seems to be easier for some than for others.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:33 pm
by rdsrds2120
I can't see the parallel one (I think due to nystagmus), but the cross-eyed one worked out nicely. Neat.

-rd

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:59 pm
by zimmah
Industrial Helix wrote:I'm terrible at these games. I can never seem to look at the image just right.


me neither, everyone sees all kind of cool stuff and i just get a headache.

i think they just lie about it or something.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:12 pm
by DiM
zimmah wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I'm terrible at these games. I can never seem to look at the image just right.


me neither, everyone sees all kind of cool stuff and i just get a headache.

i think they just lie about it or something.


it's something like the emperor's new clothes

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:05 pm
by MrBenn
DiM wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I'm terrible at these games. I can never seem to look at the image just right.


me neither, everyone sees all kind of cool stuff and i just get a headache.

i think they just lie about it or something.


it's something like the emperor's new clothes

Maybe that's why my wife asked me what I was doing on the laptop? :o

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:54 pm
by zimmah
DiM wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I'm terrible at these games. I can never seem to look at the image just right.


me neither, everyone sees all kind of cool stuff and i just get a headache.

i think they just lie about it or something.


it's something like the emperor's new clothes


couldn't we make a map about that?

would not be hard to make i figure.

only people with a rank above conquerer would be able to play it.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:17 pm
by DiM
zimmah wrote:
DiM wrote:
zimmah wrote:
Industrial Helix wrote:I'm terrible at these games. I can never seem to look at the image just right.


me neither, everyone sees all kind of cool stuff and i just get a headache.

i think they just lie about it or something.


it's something like the emperor's new clothes


couldn't we make a map about that?

would not be hard to make i figure.

only people with a rank above conquerer would be able to play it.


brilliant idea. so here's the map. if you don't see it you're not ranked high enough. and it's a shame that you don't because it's a real beauty. a masterpiece.

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Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:05 pm
by zimmah
awesome map once again dim. now here's the xml

Code: Select all
 


:lol:

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:34 pm
by natty dread
Your borders are pixelated.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:25 pm
by isaiah40
No, the map is so blurry I can't see it clearly.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:44 pm
by DiM
isaiah40 wrote:No, the map is so blurry I can't see it clearly.


it's blurry because you don't have a high enough rank. but the fact that you manage to at least see something means you're getting closer :lol:

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:00 pm
by zimmah
btw, did you ask permission to make it supersized :roll:

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:30 pm
by MrBenn
There's something funny going on at the edges of the image... I'd suggest cropping it down by about 3px on all edges - that should be just enough to sort it. The instructions/legend could probably be slightly clearer, but after one or two games most people would have worked out what's going on - and I can't think of an obvious way to do it differently.

Re: Stereoscopic mapmaking...

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:37 am
by Victor Sullivan
I had some free time, so I whipped up a quick xml: http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/18 ... 0//xml.xml

I'm a little concerned about the 888s in a few spots... I think zimmah's got the right idea - you may have to go supersize with this one.

-Sully