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Noted AlCasey AmyMarie aarbae24 [ka]

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AlCasey AmyMarie aarbae24 [ka]

Postby MSpitts24 on Tue May 04, 2021 12:10 pm

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Accused:

AlCasey
AmyMarie
aarbae24

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy
Other: collusion among friends

Game number(s):

Game 20853131
not sure if any others; this is the only one I am in

Comments:
If I had known these three were friends, I never would have joined. I saw wkurtz there from Global Chat along with 3 others, so I assumed there wasn't going to be collusion among friends

2021-05-03 12:17:23 - MSpitts24: Red/Green/Blue, do any of you know the others personally?
2021-05-03 20:44:48 - wkurtz: Spitts, were gonna get slaughtered. It's going to be great
2021-05-03 21:18:50 - MSpitts24: these three are friends, we didn't stand a chance
2021-05-04 11:20:09 - AlCasey: we do know each other but go back over the logs. Blue has been killing me the whole game!
2021-05-04 11:56:54 - MSpitts24: AICasey: thank you for admitting that you all know each other. Over the first 6 rounds the three of you attacked each other only ten times while you all attacked yellow/pink 25 time. 2.5x That comes across as collusion.
2021-05-04 11:59:33 - MSpitts24: and across those first six turns he attacked you 2, Green 2, buy Yellow 7 and pink 6; early attacks on you were a fraction of his attacks on us

I did my best to try to trace moves for the first 6 rounds:
1 -6 0 0 7 -1 0
2 -1 -1 -3 -1 8 -2
3 10 -1 -3 -2 -2 -2 -4 -4
4 -1 11 -1 -1 -7 -1 -2 -8
5 -2 -2 17 -7 -6 0 -4 -13
-10 -25
Friends Others
R G B Y P N
Total 20 27 30 16 12 -5
0 20 20 20 20 20
1 1 1 -1
2 1 -1
3 2 -1 -1
4 2 -1 -1
5 -1 -1 2
2 1 -1 1
2 -1 1
3 2 -1 -1
4 1 -1
5 3 -1 -2
3 1 -1 1
2 1 -1
3 1 -1
4 1 -1
5 3 -1 -2
4 1 -1 1
2 -1 1
3 1 -1
4 1 -1
5 -1 2 -1
5 1 -1 1
2 -1 -2 3
3 2 -1 -1
4 3 -3
5 -1 4 -1 -2
6 1 -2 2
2 -1 1
3 2 -1 -1
4 -1 3 -1 -1
5 3 -3
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Re: AlCasey AmyMarie aarbae24

Postby king achilles on Tue May 04, 2021 8:47 pm

Upon checking the accused accounts, AmyMarie has been busted as a multi of another account. As for the other two, I agree that they likely do know each other but based from the game logs, red and blue seem to be playing fairly. Just because you know someone in the game doesn't necessarily mean you should go after him or any attacks you make must be equal to the rest of the other players. It's a fog of war game so your gameplay can also depend on what you can only see on the map. At this time we don't have enough to support they are in a secret alliance or have secretly teamed up to go after the rest of you.

I will note this report for future reference.
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Re: AlCasey AmyMarie aarbae24 [ka]

Postby MSpitts24 on Wed May 05, 2021 11:51 am

thank you for checking into and noting. note that:

Red admitted knowing the other two in game chat; not just likely that they know each other

I'd be willing to bet a large sum that attacking 2 non-friends 2.5x more than your 2 friends (25 out of 35) is statistically favoring your friends, and favoring your friends that way sure smacks of secret diplomacy of some kind. nothing needs to be equal, just not so imbalanced.
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