Conquer Club

blakebowling wrote:when I attack neutral bloodwaters from any other port, I can attack and win but not advance, its like im bombarding.
However when another player occupies a bloodwater I am able to conquer it and advance.
can someone help me with this

weird. can you give a game number.
normally if you attack a blood water from a port you should only be able to bombard it. i have bombarded so many times and it worked fine. and i couldn't advance anything.

hmm. cant find the game now, but if you cant attack into the sanctuary island at all then that is really unfair. you should at least be able to attack into the port one

attack U'rl and there you are

When is this map going to be fixed? The person that gets deployed on sanctuary wins EVERY game. It is way to easy to get a large bonus on the 1st turn and no one has any chance to catch up because the neutrals have 5 and 6 on the runes with at least one 3 between them and your starting point. I suggest making sanctuary a non deploy point or at least changing the neutral at sanctuary to 2 or 3 instead of 1. It is a very well done map but is unplayable with the current set up.

I do see that the neutrals were changed to 2, the sanctuary guy still cruised to victory as we had no way to get to him until he held 5 of the terr there.

Please post concerns on the map in the map's topic (residing in Final Forge, with the text [Quenched] next to it).

DiM wrote:

Theguyoverthere wrote:sweet but there's one castle being neglected... mua. It's horrrrrible! 6 and 5 on the runes, with 3 in the way, and 5 on the village...

the village is a port so i can't lower it without making the island vulnerable. as for the resources they are just like aoria, 6 and 5 with 3 in the way.

Maybe you could put a village ssomewhere down in Mua island that isn't a port... It doesn't seem fair that Aoria has one but Mua doesn't...

Theguyoverthere wrote:

DiM wrote:

Theguyoverthere wrote:sweet but there's one castle being neglected... mua. It's horrrrrible! 6 and 5 on the runes, with 3 in the way, and 5 on the village...

the village is a port so i can't lower it without making the island vulnerable. as for the resources they are just like aoria, 6 and 5 with 3 in the way.

Maybe you could put a village ssomewhere down in Mua island that isn't a port... It doesn't seem fair that Aoria has one but Mua doesn't...

does it really matter that much? especially since the villages only give +1

i think with the power runes it matters. from figye to forest rune 1 its only like 5-6 neutrals, but from mua to ice rune 2 its 9! its really annoying... i would like it if its lowered to like 4 neutrals on the rune, instead of 6. ice rune 1 can stay the same though.

Game 2544172

player in sanctuary was defeated in round 1 without ever having a turn... that doesn't make the map seem fair if that's even possible... never got a chance to play ONCE

that person must've had REALLY lucky dice. with only 10 armies, getting through all those neutrals.... highly unlikely. it's not just sanctuary though. Aoria could be gone in one turn too. its like that with all the AoR maps.

the guy had perfect dice. i can't do anything about that. i'm pretty certain that the chances of doing that are well below 1%.

and honestly with perfect dice a round 1 elimination is possible on any map.

imagine 1v1 classic where a guy attacks his opponent with each and every terit he has and has perfect dice.

i actually saw this type of "strategy" once and the guy that went second had only 3 terits left. game over in round 2

<EDIT> If this is not an error (Gimi'l and Di'm do not border) then I appologize to DiM and Yeti_c</EDIT>
gimi'l (bloodwater) only borders B'hed, and it should border D'im as well (as D'im is on the opposite side)

The current territory code for gimi'l is

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<territory>
<name>Gimi'l</name>
−
   <borders>
<border>B'hed</border>
<border>Eon</border>
<border>Vesk</border>
<border>Duht</border>
<border>Qasr</border>
<border>Voigth</border>
<border>U'rl</border>
<border>Sler</border>
<border>Aosa</border>
<border>Ieme</border>
<border>Ikalu</border>
</borders>
−
   <coordinates>
<smallx>290</smallx>
<smally>223</smally>
<largex>388</largex>
<largey>292</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
<bonus>-10</bonus>
</territory>

The code should look like

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<territory>
<name>Gimi'l</name>
−
   <borders>
<border>B'hed</border>
<border>D'im</border>
<border>Eon</border>
<border>Vesk</border>
<border>Duht</border>
<border>Qasr</border>
<border>Voigth</border>
<border>U'rl</border>
<border>Sler</border>
<border>Aosa</border>
<border>Ieme</border>
<border>Ikalu</border>
</borders>
−
   <coordinates>
<smallx>290</smallx>
<smally>223</smally>
<largex>388</largex>
<largey>292</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
<bonus>-10</bonus>
</territory>

and the code for D'im will need to be changed as well
current code for D'im

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<territory>
<name>D'im</name>
−
   <borders>
<border>K'rah</border>
<border>Eon</border>
<border>Vesk</border>
<border>Duht</border>
<border>Qasr</border>
<border>Voigth</border>
<border>U'rl</border>
<border>Sler</border>
<border>Aosa</border>
<border>Ieme</border>
<border>Ikalu</border>
</borders>
−
   <coordinates>
<smallx>154</smallx>
<smally>225</smally>
<largex>206</largex>
<largey>294</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
<bonus>-10</bonus>
</territory>

new code

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<territory>
<name>D'im</name>
−
   <borders>
<border>K'rah</border>
<border>Gimi'l</border>
<border>Eon</border>
<border>Vesk</border>
<border>Duht</border>
<border>Qasr</border>
<border>Voigth</border>
<border>U'rl</border>
<border>Sler</border>
<border>Aosa</border>
<border>Ieme</border>
<border>Ikalu</border>
</borders>
−
   <coordinates>
<smallx>154</smallx>
<smally>225</smally>
<largex>206</largex>
<largey>294</largey>
</coordinates>
<neutral>2</neutral>
<bonus>-10</bonus>
</territory>

they dont touch. Its obvious they dont border each other



btw, i dont even think that Gimi'l is supposed to border anything but the docks

as people say that the sanctuary give a massive bonus too early, even a 10 by round 2 without anyone able to touch them, maybe make it +1 for 2 bloodwater terits, +2 for 4, +3 for 6?

or +1 for 2, +2 for 3, +3 for 5, ect?

Hello king achilles sent me to this page,
I am currently playing this map game #2834110 and I haven't a clue on how to attacj the last remaining player who sits on the sanctuary island.
I have most of the map conquered and there is no way the other play will win but this could go on forever as I do not know how to attack him other than to bombard the beaches = there does not seem to be a way to get a foothold on that island
Can you please advise what I need to do to get a foothold on the island or win the game?
Thanks!
Conan the King

You can attack U'Rl from any of your Docks... - it can attack you too...

C.

I am playing on this map, and have a ton of troops, the only space left that has someone else on it is Sanctuary, but i can't get to that island to get to him/her. How do i get there?

by the docks

in game Game 5549616, cyan starts on Sanctuary. he then attacks A'lb on turn 1, and rather than bombarding it lets him conquer it and occupy. afaik that shouldn't be possible. i was trying to figure out how he managed to get off Sanctuary and attack another capital while U'rl remained neutral when i discovered it. any input?

Read the legend.

Sanctuary - Lyches cast decay on all blood waters terits making them lose 10 armies per turn and the sanctuary can attack them directly.

Means they can attack, not bombard, the bloody water.

thanks. guess i was just confused that BOB 4.7.9 shows them as bombard from Sanctuary

never mind, looks like i misunderstood BOB's symbols. all is well, relatively speaking.

you know DiM, you have a wonderful imagination and thnx to you, i've made my fortune on aor2 esp

Apologies if this is best discussed elsewhere, but I've always seen the sanctuary player come 2nd to last, never win.

Mainly because other players can't work out the Alb - ulr sanctuary thing.

However, given that they get virtually no troops bonus each turn compared to the other players +1 but -10 for each land, how on earth are they ever going to win a game?