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The credits are a little hard to read, like the beginning of the words Graphics and Gameplay.

Nice map

~Sam

Agree with samuelc812, the green part of credits get lost in the sea color.
You should refine the borders of Managua and San José, a bit pixelous on the lake side. The same thing for the atlantic coast in Limòn and Canal.
But they can be easily fixed in the final forge



Nobodies

Congrats on the gfx stamp!

Woot!

thenobodies80 wrote:Agree with samuelc812, the green part of credits get lost in the sea color.
You should refine the borders of Managua and San José, a bit pixelous on the lake side. The same thing for the atlantic coast in Limòn and Canal.
But they can be easily fixed in the final forge



Nobodies

Thanks for the stamp!

I have a TON to do this week, but I really want to get this done. Hopefully I can put time into it.

Thanks for the congrats/all the help everyone. Let's get this show on the road

in the xml, región autónoma del atlantico sur needs to be written out in full.

does darién have an accent? wikipedia has, but i'm sure i've seen it in the past without too, as currently on the map.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darién_Gap

good to see it all coming together!

ian.

It's great to see this in the Final Forge and I really like the graphics style. I'd suggest that you move the text which says "Hold both Sea Routes and Canal +1" to the space just above the actual Canal region to prevent confusion. I think that's all.

Map looks damn good - nice work Lucky.

oaktown wrote:Alright, here's the updated XML with coordinates. My only concern is that I used chipv's XML Wizard to test and tweak the coordinates and it reverted my character entity references to the actual characters... if i remember correctly, CC's engine has always been able to read the straight characters, but BOB had trouble with them. If BOB's problems have been resolved, we're good to go.

I believe that now we use UTF-8 encoding - the XML will work with the chars inline...

In fact - if we'd always used UTF-8 - BOB would not have had any problems - the issue we had at one point was ampersands in names - and not parsing those correctly for hovers. (IIRC)

C.

Yes... XML wizard doesn't handle ampersands properly. Every time I use it I need to manually convert all ampersands to character codes. That's why I make all minor adjustments by hand these days.

God I'm looking forward to this one

Version 14:
-Moved a couple territory names around (Islas de la Bahia up, Chiriqui down a little bit, Puntarenas down a bit)
-Added the full name for RAAS (only changed on the large, it was there last small version)
-Fixed up the credits. I think the brighter green is much more readable
-Spaced out/tried to center the sea rout names. I think I accidentally bumped the font size of Atlantic up, something I'll fix next update.

Version 14:
Large


Small


Thanks for all the positive comments everyone! Hopefully we can finish this one up soon

I'm going to look into moving the Canal bonus text next version, curious as to how it would look. I kind of like it where it is, but if it improves on things I won't mind moving it!

Code updated with Region... Sur corrected.

I've posted an XML check request.

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<map>

    <title>Central America</title>
    <smallwidth>630</smallwidth>
    <smallheight>507</smallheight>
    <largewidth>740</largewidth>
    <largeheight>596</largeheight>
    <filetype>jpg</filetype>

<positions>
   <position>
      <territory>San Salvador</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>Usulután</territory>
   </position>
</positions>
<continent>
   <name>Guatemala</name>
   <bonus>3</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Petén</territory>
      <territory>Izabal</territory>
      <territory>Las Verapaces</territory>
      <territory>Quetzaltenango</territory>
      <territory>Guatemala</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Belize</name>
   <bonus>1</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Orange Walk</territory>
      <territory>The Cayes</territory>
      <territory>Belmopan</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Honduras</name>
   <bonus>4</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Copán</territory>
      <territory>Alténtida</territory>
      <territory>Islas de la Bahía</territory>
      <territory>Tegucigalpa</territory>
      <territory>Olancho</territory>
      <territory>Colón</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>El Salvador</name>
   <bonus>1</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>San Salvador</territory>
      <territory>Usulután</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Nicaragua</name>
   <bonus>5</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</territory>
      <territory>Jinotega</territory>
      <territory>Chinandega</territory>
      <territory>Managua</territory>
      <territory>Boaca</territory>
      <territory>Región Autónoma del Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</territory>
      <territory>Rio San Juan</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Panamá</name>
   <bonus>3</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Darien Gap</territory>
      <territory>Canal</territory>
      <territory>Bocas del Toro</territory>
      <territory>Chiriquí</territory>
      <territory>Coclé</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Costa Rica</name>
   <bonus>2</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Limón</territory>
      <territory>Puntarenas</territory>
      <territory>San José</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Shipping Lanes</name>
   <bonus>1</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Canal</territory>
      <territory>Pacific Sea Route</territory>
      <territory>Atlantic Sea Route</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<territory>
   <name>Orange Walk</name>
   <borders>
      <border>The Cayes</border>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>153</smallx>
      <smally>82</smally>
      <largex>182</largex>
      <largey>93</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>The Cayes</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Orange Walk</border>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>210</smallx>
      <smally>94</smally>
      <largex>257</largex>
      <largey>107</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Belmopan</name>
   <borders>
      <border>The Cayes</border>
      <border>Orange Walk</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>146</smallx>
      <smally>125</smally>
      <largex>177</largex>
      <largey>143</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Petén</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Orange Walk</border>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>100</smallx>
      <smally>109</smally>
      <largex>119</largex>
      <largey>122</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Izabal</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>140</smallx>
      <smally>166</smally>
      <largex>168</largex>
      <largey>190</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Las Verapaces</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Quetzaltenango</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>71</smallx>
      <smally>167</smally>
      <largex>84</largex>
      <largey>193</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Guatemala</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Quetzaltenango</border>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>San Salvador</border>
      <border>Pacific Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>96</smallx>
      <smally>195</smally>
      <largex>114</largex>
      <largey>226</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Quetzaltenango</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>37</smallx>
      <smally>198</smally>
      <largex>43</largex>
      <largey>233</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>San Salvador</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Usulután</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>124</smallx>
      <smally>227</smally>
      <largex>147</largex>
      <largey>262</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Usulután</name>
   <borders>
      <border>San Salvador</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>174</smallx>
      <smally>258</smally>
      <largex>205</largex>
      <largey>300</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Copán</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Atlantic Sea Route</border>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Usulután</border>
      <border>San Salvador</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>161</smallx>
      <smally>196</smally>
      <largex>190</largex>
      <largey>226</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Alténtida</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Islas de la Bahía</border>
      <border>Colón</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>221</smallx>
      <smally>184</smally>
      <largex>260</largex>
      <largey>213</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Islas de la Bahía</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Colón</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>245</smallx>
      <smally>133</smally>
      <largex>289</largex>
      <largey>154</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Tegucigalpa</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
      <border>Usulután</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>209</smallx>
      <smally>231</smally>
      <largex>247</largex>
      <largey>269</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Olancho</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Colón</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>269</smallx>
      <smally>206</smally>
      <largex>320</largex>
      <largey>240</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Colón</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Islas de la Bahía</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>313</smallx>
      <smally>183</smally>
      <largex>367</largex>
      <largey>211</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Colón</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>336</smallx>
      <smally>236</smally>
      <largex>395</largex>
      <largey>274</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Jinotega</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>289</smallx>
      <smally>260</smally>
      <largex>339</largex>
      <largey>302</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Chinandega</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Managua</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>237</smallx>
      <smally>263</smally>
      <largex>279</largex>
      <largey>305</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Managua</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>San José</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>248</smallx>
      <smally>325</smally>
      <largex>291</largex>
      <largey>378</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Boaca</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>Managua</border>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>288</smallx>
      <smally>309</smally>
      <largex>336</largex>
      <largey>359</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>333</smallx>
      <smally>297</smally>
      <largex>391</largex>
      <largey>341</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Rio San Juan</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>San José</border>
      <border>Atlantic Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>326</smallx>
      <smally>350</smally>
      <largex>380</largex>
      <largey>405</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>San José</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Managua</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>277</smallx>
      <smally>381</smally>
      <largex>327</largex>
      <largey>443</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Puntarenas</name>
   <borders>
      <border>San José</border>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Chiriquí</border>
      <border>Pacific Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>346</smallx>
      <smally>425</smally>
      <largex>407</largex>
      <largey>496</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Limón</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>San José</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>356</smallx>
      <smally>404</smally>
      <largex>417</largex>
      <largey>471</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Chiriquí</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Coclé</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>434</smallx>
      <smally>482</smally>
      <largex>511</largex>
      <largey>562</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Bocas del Toro</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Chiriquí</border>
      <border>Coclé</border>
      <border>Canal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>433</smallx>
      <smally>451</smally>
      <largex>503</largex>
      <largey>527</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Coclé</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Chiriquí</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Canal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>469</smallx>
      <smally>501</smally>
      <largex>550</largex>
      <largey>582</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Canal</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Coclé</border>
      <border>Darien Gap</border>
      <border>Pacific Sea Route</border>
      <border>Atlantic Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>522</smallx>
      <smally>435</smally>
      <largex>614</largex>
      <largey>505</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Darien Gap</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Canal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>584</smallx>
      <smally>459</smally>
      <largex>687</largex>
      <largey>536</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Pacific Sea Route</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Canal</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>191</smallx>
      <smally>367</smally>
      <largex>226</largex>
      <largey>427</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Atlantic Sea Route</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Canal</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>417</smallx>
      <smally>156</smally>
      <largex>490</largex>
      <largey>181</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
</map>

On the large image, "Atlantic" looks like it's in bigger font size than "Pacific". This doesn't appear on the small version, so I assume it's unintentional...?

Checked and corrected XML:
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/612537/C ... merica.xml

Fixed some coordinates, though the titles of the islands seem pretty close now. And when I wrote the code almost a year ago there was still a connection between Rio San Juan and San Jose!

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<map>


<positions>
   <position>
      <territory>San Salvador</territory>
   </position>
   <position>
      <territory>Usulután</territory>
   </position>
</positions>
<continent>
   <name>Guatemala</name>
   <bonus>3</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Petén</territory>
      <territory>Izabal</territory>
      <territory>Las Verapaces</territory>
      <territory>Quetzaltenango</territory>
      <territory>Guatemala</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Belize</name>
   <bonus>1</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Orange Walk</territory>
      <territory>The Cayes</territory>
      <territory>Belmopan</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Honduras</name>
   <bonus>4</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Copán</territory>
      <territory>Alténtida</territory>
      <territory>Islas de la Bahía</territory>
      <territory>Tegucigalpa</territory>
      <territory>Olancho</territory>
      <territory>Colón</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>El Salvador</name>
   <bonus>1</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>San Salvador</territory>
      <territory>Usulután</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Nicaragua</name>
   <bonus>5</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</territory>
      <territory>Jinotega</territory>
      <territory>Chinandega</territory>
      <territory>Managua</territory>
      <territory>Boaca</territory>
      <territory>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</territory>
      <territory>Rio San Juan</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Panamá</name>
   <bonus>3</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Darien Gap</territory>
      <territory>Canal</territory>
      <territory>Bocas del Toro</territory>
      <territory>Chiriquí</territory>
      <territory>Coclé</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Costa Rica</name>
   <bonus>2</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Limón</territory>
      <territory>Puntarenas</territory>
      <territory>San José</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<continent>
   <name>Shipping Lanes</name>
   <bonus>1</bonus>
   <components>
      <territory>Canal</territory>
      <territory>Pacific Sea Route</territory>
      <territory>Atlantic Sea Route</territory>
   </components>
</continent>
<territory>
   <name>Orange Walk</name>
   <borders>
      <border>The Cayes</border>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>153</smallx>
      <smally>82</smally>
      <largex>182</largex>
      <largey>93</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>The Cayes</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Orange Walk</border>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>209</smallx>
      <smally>93</smally>
      <largex>255</largex>
      <largey>106</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Belmopan</name>
   <borders>
      <border>The Cayes</border>
      <border>Orange Walk</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>146</smallx>
      <smally>125</smally>
      <largex>177</largex>
      <largey>143</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Petén</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Orange Walk</border>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>100</smallx>
      <smally>109</smally>
      <largex>119</largex>
      <largey>122</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Izabal</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Belmopan</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>140</smallx>
      <smally>166</smally>
      <largex>168</largex>
      <largey>190</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Las Verapaces</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Quetzaltenango</border>
      <border>Petén</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>71</smallx>
      <smally>167</smally>
      <largex>84</largex>
      <largey>193</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Guatemala</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Quetzaltenango</border>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>San Salvador</border>
      <border>Pacific Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>96</smallx>
      <smally>195</smally>
      <largex>114</largex>
      <largey>226</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Quetzaltenango</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Las Verapaces</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>37</smallx>
      <smally>198</smally>
      <largex>43</largex>
      <largey>233</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>San Salvador</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Usulután</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>124</smallx>
      <smally>227</smally>
      <largex>147</largex>
      <largey>262</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Usulután</name>
   <borders>
      <border>San Salvador</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>174</smallx>
      <smally>258</smally>
      <largex>205</largex>
      <largey>300</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Copán</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Izabal</border>
      <border>Atlantic Sea Route</border>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Usulután</border>
      <border>San Salvador</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>161</smallx>
      <smally>196</smally>
      <largex>190</largex>
      <largey>226</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Alténtida</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Islas de la Bahía</border>
      <border>Colón</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>221</smallx>
      <smally>184</smally>
      <largex>260</largex>
      <largey>213</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Islas de la Bahía</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Colón</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>245</smallx>
      <smally>125</smally>
      <largex>289</largex>
      <largey>142</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Tegucigalpa</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
      <border>Usulután</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>209</smallx>
      <smally>231</smally>
      <largex>247</largex>
      <largey>269</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Olancho</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Colón</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>267</smallx>
      <smally>206</smally>
      <largex>318</largex>
      <largey>240</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Colón</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Alténtida</border>
      <border>Islas de la Bahía</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>313</smallx>
      <smally>183</smally>
      <largex>367</largex>
      <largey>211</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Colón</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>336</smallx>
      <smally>236</smally>
      <largex>395</largex>
      <largey>274</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Jinotega</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Olancho</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>289</smallx>
      <smally>260</smally>
      <largex>339</largex>
      <largey>302</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Chinandega</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Tegucigalpa</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Managua</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>237</smallx>
      <smally>263</smally>
      <largex>279</largex>
      <largey>305</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Managua</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>San José</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>248</smallx>
      <smally>325</smally>
      <largex>291</largex>
      <largey>378</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Boaca</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>Managua</border>
      <border>Chinandega</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>288</smallx>
      <smally>309</smally>
      <largex>336</largex>
      <largey>359</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Norte</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Jinotega</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>333</smallx>
      <smally>297</smally>
      <largex>391</largex>
      <largey>341</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Rio San Juan</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Boaca</border>
      <border>Región Autónoma del Atlántico Sur</border>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Atlantic Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>326</smallx>
      <smally>350</smally>
      <largex>380</largex>
      <largey>405</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>San José</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Managua</border>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>277</smallx>
      <smally>381</smally>
      <largex>327</largex>
      <largey>443</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Puntarenas</name>
   <borders>
      <border>San José</border>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Chiriquí</border>
      <border>Pacific Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>346</smallx>
      <smally>425</smally>
      <largex>407</largex>
      <largey>496</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Limón</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
      <border>San José</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>356</smallx>
      <smally>404</smally>
      <largex>417</largex>
      <largey>471</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Chiriquí</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Coclé</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>419</smallx>
      <smally>469</smally>
      <largex>495</largex>
      <largey>548</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Bocas del Toro</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Limón</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Chiriquí</border>
      <border>Coclé</border>
      <border>Canal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>433</smallx>
      <smally>451</smally>
      <largex>503</largex>
      <largey>527</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Coclé</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Chiriquí</border>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Canal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>469</smallx>
      <smally>501</smally>
      <largex>550</largex>
      <largey>582</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Canal</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
      <border>Coclé</border>
      <border>Darien Gap</border>
      <border>Pacific Sea Route</border>
      <border>Atlantic Sea Route</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>522</smallx>
      <smally>435</smally>
      <largex>614</largex>
      <largey>505</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Darien Gap</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Canal</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>584</smallx>
      <smally>459</smally>
      <largex>687</largex>
      <largey>536</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Pacific Sea Route</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Canal</border>
      <border>Puntarenas</border>
      <border>Guatemala</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>192</smallx>
      <smally>367</smally>
      <largex>226</largex>
      <largey>429</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
<territory>
   <name>Atlantic Sea Route</name>
   <borders>
      <border>Canal</border>
      <border>Copán</border>
      <border>Rio San Juan</border>
   </borders>
   <coordinates>
      <smallx>417</smallx>
      <smally>156</smally>
      <largex>490</largex>
      <largey>181</largey>
   </coordinates>
</territory>
</map>

Update:

I have just graduated college, and will have a ton more time to pour into getting this map finished.

Celebrating the former, stay tuned for the later

congraduations!

This is pretty much there though - the XML has been checked and come back clean so that stamp is all but done. You may want to eyeball the coordinates because you may see something you don't like (such as the islands).

I know it's late, but looking back at the map, I'm not sure the grunge is the best way to go about the water. At least try lowering the opacity and making the water color a more aquamarine; atm it doesn't fit with your land colors.

This is just me, but I would use a sea like this one:

what's the record for longest production time of a map that is ultimately quenched? I think we're going to give it a run for it's money.

Maybe WWII Eastern Front? It has one of the longest topics, which could translate into long production. Somewhere in the Foundry Discussions forum there was a topic that tallied the time in real days of production for a number of maps---up to a given point (probably many maps ago).


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:Maybe WWII Eastern Front?

If that's the map in which folks spent nine months quibbling over army coordinate centering, then yeah that may have the record. Maybe Das Schlos. But I bet this map was the longest without a prolonged period of inactivity (instead there have been dozens of brief periods of inactivity).

Every second of my life that this isn't in beta is living in a living hell! It's gotten to the point were I almost check daily just to see if this map has been released yet!

These are the latest files/links, right?

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    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
    <map>


    <positions>
       <position>
          <territory>San Salvador</territory>
       </position>
       <position>
          <territory>Usulután</territory>
       </position>
    </positions>
    <continent>
       <name>Guatemala</name>
       <bonus>3</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Petén</territory>
          <territory>Izabal</territory>
          <territory>Las Verapaces</territory>
          <territory>Quetzaltenango</territory>
          <territory>Guatemala</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>
    <continent>
       <name>Belize</name>
       <bonus>1</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Orange Walk</territory>
          <territory>The Cayes</territory>
          <territory>Belmopan</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>
    <continent>
       <name>Honduras</name>
       <bonus>4</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Copán</territory>
          <territory>Alténtida</territory>
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       <name>Coclé</name>
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       <name>Canal</name>
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          <border>Bocas del Toro</border>
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       <name>Pacific Sea Route</name>
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          <border>Canal</border>
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    <territory>
       <name>Atlantic Sea Route</name>
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       </borders>
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In which case....

Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Central America Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:

1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
2. Please update the Map Information Portal with details of your map
3. Finally, it is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.

--MrBenn