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[GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby georgizhukov on Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:15 am

First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

The real game of risk is manual deployment, sequential...Playing on CC a manual deployment game on 1v1 or 3 man plays the deployment as if it is freestyle without knowing who is first to go. This completely ruins and manual sequential games because it is almost invariably the first to go will win. If you didn't have to deploy as if you were attacking first, then you could set your troops up accordingly for defense in the first round and possibly stand a chance.

This could easily be fixed by either deploying manually by the sequence you will play or somehow indicating who will play first.

This could benefit the site by creating a more fair environment for manual deployment games, especially smaller maps with fewer players...Not sure what impact this would have on larger maps with more players..
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:27 am

This seems workable.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:24 am

Agreed.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby clangfield on Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:07 am

Very much in favour.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby premio53 on Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:44 pm

A very good idea.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:39 pm

I support this as well. I assumed originally that this was an intentional design decision, but it occurs to me that it may not be (and at any rate, we have the ability to define the game as we please, being the community that plays the game). Especially in a 1v1, you can get really destroyed on the first turn if you deploy next to your opponent, and leveling things out that way might help.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby The Voice on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:31 am

I like it!
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby Armandolas on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:38 am

i like it too
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby cooldeals on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:43 am

nice suggestion
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby betiko on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:51 am

I like it too. In 1v1, unless the oponent deploys like a retard and/or he gets total BS dice, if you go second it's pretty much game over. This would reballance things a bit.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby puppydog85 on Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:56 am

I like the idea.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby patrickaa317 on Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:16 am

Also agree!
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby agentcom on Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:44 am

I think this could almost completely rehabilitate manual as a 1v1 setting. I really like this idea.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 am

This was suggested right after manual came out... Nothing ever came of it. Lets hope this time it does!
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby khazalid on Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:11 am

great idea
had i been wise, i would have seen that her simplicity cost her a fortune
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:50 am

15 posts in a row, all in favor: stickied.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby agentcom on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:06 am

Bruceswar wrote:This was suggested right after manual came out... Nothing ever came of it. Lets hope this time it does!


I had no idea. I wonder whether it wasn't implemented for technological reasons or for some substantive reason. I think someone needs to track down some old threads :)
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:24 am

I read through the announcement thread. It was suggested independently three or four times but lack never explicitly responded to it.
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Re: First to play indicator on Manual Sequential games

Postby FreeFalling123 on Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:48 pm

while we are on the subject what about holding on to some deploys for after your first turn?
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Re: [GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential gam

Postby Kaskavel on Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:44 am

I do not understand the point of manual deployment in 1 vs 1 but yes,if we are to play this, knowing who plays first will make things more balanced. Charging through 2s is not the same as charging through 1s
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Re: [GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential gam

Postby macbone on Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:00 am

I agree, too. This would be a welcome change.
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Re: [GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential gam

Postby agentcom on Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:54 pm

macbone wrote:I agree, too. This would be a welcome change.


Isn't part of the strategy in these types of games to deploy so that you are in the best position whether you go first or second? If you put the indicator there, the first player will have a really big advantage.
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Re: [GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential gam

Postby MrPinky on Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:04 pm

Of course :D
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Re: [GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential gam

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:22 pm

agentcom wrote:
macbone wrote:I agree, too. This would be a welcome change.


Isn't part of the strategy in these types of games to deploy so that you are in the best position whether you go first or second? If you put the indicator there, the first player will have a really big advantage.


Yeah. Looking back, I'm surprised I was so in favor of this initially.
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Re: [GP/UI] First to play indicator on Manual Sequential gam

Postby Dukasaur on Tue May 13, 2014 4:14 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
agentcom wrote:
macbone wrote:I agree, too. This would be a welcome change.


Isn't part of the strategy in these types of games to deploy so that you are in the best position whether you go first or second? If you put the indicator there, the first player will have a really big advantage.


Yeah. Looking back, I'm surprised I was so in favor of this initially.

I think the discussion has turned from multiplayer games to 1v1.

In 1v1 this will probably increase the already huge advantage that the first player gets. For what most of us would consider "normal" 5- and 6- player games, it is still a very good idea.
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