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Do you agree with the concept of 3 different Military Paths, each with its own rank?

Yes, although I think the old path should still be an option (4-Path)
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Yes, I agree fully with qwert's proposed 3-Path System
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19%
Yes, I want new ranks, but not the 3-Path System
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9%
Yes, I like the new ranks but not the graphics
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10%
No, the ranks are fine as they are
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51%
 
Total votes : 271

Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby cooldeals on Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:39 pm

This would be a tragedy for the Society of Cooks training program. They'd have no one to teach.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby greenoaks on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:48 pm

cooldeals wrote:This would be a tragedy for the Society of Cooks training program. They'd have no one to teach.

the Society of Cooks training program no longer exists
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Prince_Tottenham on Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:16 am

i like the idea for new ranks, i always wished to see ranks for sea or air, but i don't want to see the ranks like that.. and i guess most people doesn't want to see such thing.

qwert doing a huge work really on this, and i think we need to help him for this. clearly a change in the site could be good at one point. I'll try to help him when i came with idea to support this one.

what i disagree, the minumum points for each ranks, i think what i suggested is more tidy..
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Qwert on Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:43 pm

little experiments on how ranks will look in diferent angles

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:02 pm

Definitely prefer the first. However, it seems like there could be an even better way? What about vertical?
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Postby ManBungalow on Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:01 pm

qwert wrote:little experiments on how ranks will could look in diferent angles
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Postby OleCowboyHippy on Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:04 pm

I vote yes, great idea...OCH
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Qwert on Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:11 am

Funkyterrance wrote:Definitely prefer the first. However, it seems like there could be an even better way? What about vertical?


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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Agent 86 on Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:08 am

This looks great, I really like it qwert ;) Everyone would quickly get to know the new ranks and insignia's. Change is inevitable as the site continues to improve.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Funkyterrance on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:04 pm

They look really cool qwert, nice work on these. :)
Much easier to read now I believe. It might take a little time to figure out placement on the profile, etc, but that would be a pretty easy problem to be solved. Just a matter of design.

I have been thinking about this thread/poll and I believe the reason why it's aggravating some people is because there are actually two suggestions rolled up in one here. The first suggestion being new insignias and the second being the three path system. Granted if you were voting for the 3 path system you would be voting for at least some form of new insignia since 2/3rds of the 3 path system doesn't exist yet but not necessarily the same style as the old insignias.

Is there any way to make a poll that has two separate areas, one for choosing yes or no for new insignias and another for choosing yes or no for the 3 path system or do there need to be two completely separate threads/polls?
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Postby Qwert on Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:35 pm

and view from game statistic side

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby panzermeyer on Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:05 pm

the ranking system is the worst and probably the only bad part of CC

it is way to subjective for the following 2 reasons

1. all players should lose the same amount of points regardless of rank. Way to many people will join or not join a game because they are afraid of losing to many points to a junior rank and they can protect their own rank by playing private games that do not allow lower ranks

2. although I enjoy them, single player and team games should NOT count towards your rank. These options (especially team) make it way to easy to stack a team and pounce on some unsuspecting newbies! and we all now most (NOT ALL) of the higher ranks are achieved in this fashion.

RANK SHOULD BE BASED ON MULTIPLE PLAYER GAMES ONLY! THAT IS WHERE TRUE SKILL CAN BE PROVEN!
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby codierose on Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:51 pm

can i ask what nationality the ranks you suggest have come from
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Fewnix on Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:00 pm

I urge those who like the current ranking system for themselves to allow options for others. That is why I agreed with the concept of 3 different Military Paths, each with its own rank.and voted Yes the old path should still be an option (4-Path),

There are people who do not like their rank to be based on the current points system:

Conquer Club members are initially given a score of 1000. At the end of each game, the winner takes points away from each loser. The points to be awarded is calculated as (loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent.


and they should have the right to be ranked differently, while those who like the old ways can still be ranked the old way.

One suggestion I find interesting is that points be awarded on a straight 20 points gain for a win, a straight 20 points loss for a defeat . So both a cook (5 finished games, minimum score 1) and a colonel (100 finished games, minimum score, 2500 points) in a 6 player game, standard setting, would gain 100 points for 5 wins by being the last one standing and lose 20 points if eliminated I may not chose this option for my ranking but would allow others the right.

Why not allow different ranking systems for those who chose different paths, say those who"enlist" joining a clan and going to war? The score is calculated per team in team games so it should be possible to get as an option a ranking system tied into clan wars or various Leagues, Conquer Cups?

Bottom line: we are talking about allowing different options> Please vote Yes.

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby spiesr on Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:22 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:Concerning the rank system, graphically, we'll be staying the same unless something wild happens. As for new ranks, maybe, but I feel that this is mostly preference, and that most people don't mine either way in the grand scheme of all things Conquer Club.
Is that an Official Rejection of this suggestion then?
Fewnix wrote:I urge those who like the current ranking system for themselves to allow options for others. That is why I agreed with the concept of 3 different Military Paths, each with its own rank.and voted Yes the old path should still be an option (4-Path),

There are people who do not like their rank to be based on the current points system:

Conquer Club members are initially given a score of 1000. At the end of each game, the winner takes points away from each loser. The points to be awarded is calculated as (loser's score / winner's score) * 20, up to a maximum of 100 points from each opponent.


and they should have the right to be ranked differently, while those who like the old ways can still be ranked the old way.

One suggestion I find interesting is that points be awarded on a straight 20 points gain for a win, a straight 20 points loss for a defeat . So both a cook (5 finished games, minimum score 1) and a colonel (100 finished games, minimum score, 2500 points) in a 6 player game, standard setting, would gain 100 points for 5 wins by being the last one standing and lose 20 points if eliminated I may not chose this option for my ranking but would allow others the right.

Why not allow different ranking systems for those who chose different paths, say those who"enlist" joining a clan and going to war? The score is calculated per team in team games so it should be possible to get as an option a ranking system tied into clan wars or various Leagues, Conquer Cups?

Bottom line: we are talking about allowing different options> Please vote Yes.
This is a suggestion to change the graphics of the rank icons and the score requirements for the ranks. It is not a suggestion to change how points are awarded (or add additional systems for doing so). If that is what you want you need to post in a different thread.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby morleyjoe on Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:21 am

No, the ranks are fine as they are - 47%


I have to agree with the majority on this one. Good work, but Sorry qwert :)
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby silversun6 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:29 am

morleyjoe wrote:
No, the ranks are fine as they are - 47%


I have to agree with the majority on this one. Good work, but Sorry qwert :)


isnt the 53% who want to change it is the majority ? O_o
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby morleyjoe on Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:50 am

silversun6 wrote:
morleyjoe wrote:
No, the ranks are fine as they are - 47%


I have to agree with the majority on this one. Good work, but Sorry qwert :)


isnt the 53% who want to change it is the majority ? O_o


True - I guess I was thinking along the lines of Canadian elections results where that would be a landslide victory....lol....
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Crazyirishman on Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:45 am

silversun6 wrote:
morleyjoe wrote:
No, the ranks are fine as they are - 47%


I have to agree with the majority on this one. Good work, but Sorry qwert :)


isnt the 53% who want to change it is the majority ? O_o


That 53% percent go to choose from 4 different options though, so you can't really say that it is fair. The 11% that voted for 'new ranks, but keep the graphics' are completely distinct from the people that voted for option 3, while options 1 and 2 are the most closely related. It slightly careless to bunch all of them together since they all have different wants. That's why the 47% is the 'majority' in this context.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:45 pm

silversun6 wrote:
morleyjoe wrote:
No, the ranks are fine as they are - 47%


I have to agree with the majority on this one. Good work, but Sorry qwert :)


isnt the 53% who want to change it is the majority ? O_o

I argued this earlier in the thread silversun, it's no use.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Agent 86 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:34 pm

Yes it's difficult with this poll to gauge anything actually. Small percentage of voters as well..current membership number of 13729.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Qwert on Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:11 pm

Agent 86 wrote:Yes it's difficult with this poll to gauge anything actually. Small percentage of voters as well..current membership number of 13729.


well its going down when we speak,, need more and fast new implementations. I dont know if these will attract more new players, but i think its worth to try.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Fewnix on Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:22 pm

Agreed-let's give it a try

appreciate all that you have done are doing and will do

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Qwert wrote:
Agent 86 wrote:Yes it's difficult with this poll to gauge anything actually. Small percentage of voters as well..current membership number of 13729.


well its going down when we speak,, need more and fast new implementations. I dont know if these will attract more new players, but i think its worth to try.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby General Bax on Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:59 pm

what about lt. col. rank, why is it neglected?
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:35 am

Let's give it a shot.
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