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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby josko.ri on Tue May 04, 2021 12:07 pm

IcePack wrote:Congratulations to the Fallen on their first post IcePack #1 Ranking! =D>
2nd in their history :)

Congratulations to FALL. They previously had run of 10 consecutive months on #1 ranking, this is their second surge.

Ascension is now challenging FALL for overcoming the top spot, hot match there.
Despite being already 20 months placed in top 5, Ascension has never been placed in top 2 but now is very close.

May rankings saw S&M relegated from #1 spot and all time #1 months now look like this (in parenthesis is top score while being #1 ranked):

1. TOFU 53 (1460)
2. S&M 42 (1468)
3. TOP 13 (1489)
4. LHDD 12 (1437)
5. FALL 11 (1384)
6. THOTA 8 (1333)
7. ACE 3 (1413)
8. EMP 1 (1367)

If S&M wins this year CCup then we will likely catch TOFU in 2022, FALL is close to become 3rd clan with the most ever #1 months, while Ascension and REP are trying to become 9th clan who is ranked as #1.


In April TOFU's 110 months of consecutively being top 4 came to an end, congratulations for such amazing achievement! =D> However, TOFU has another ongoing streak of 136 consecutive months (over 11 years!) being top 5. I recorded 143 months of rankings and only the first seven ones when TOFU didnt yet exist did not see their name in top 5. This streak is now dangerously challenged by REP and ICON.

Last several months also saw ending streak of LHDD being top 1 ranked of 12 consecutive months (tied on 2nd the longest streak with TOFU, the longest ever streak is from S&M with 17 months), being top 2 ranked of 20 consecutive months (4th the longest streak after TOFU, S&M and THOTA) and being top 3 ranked for 21 consecutive months (6th the longest streak after TOFU, S&M twice, TOP and THOTA). LHDD still has ongoing streak of 22 consecutive months being top 4 ranked (7th place) and 25 consecutive months being top 5 ranked (9th place). Congratulations for such milestones! =D>
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue May 04, 2021 12:22 pm

josko.ri wrote:In April TOFU's 110 months of consecutively being top 4 came to an end, congratulations for such amazing achievement! =D> However, TOFU has another ongoing streak of 136 consecutive months (over 11 years!) being top 5. I recorded 143 months of rankings and only the first seven ones when TOFU didnt yet exist did not see their name in top 5. This streak is now dangerously challenged by REP and ICON

true, we're just around the corner from being in the top 5 for 136 months
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby IcePack on Thu May 06, 2021 10:49 am

josko.ri wrote:
IcePack wrote:Congratulations to the Fallen on their first post IcePack #1 Ranking! =D>
2nd in their history :)

Congratulations to FALL. They previously had run of 10 consecutive months on #1 ranking, this is their second surge.

Ascension is now challenging FALL for overcoming the top spot, hot match there.
Despite being already 20 months placed in top 5, Ascension has never been placed in top 2 but now is very close.


https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php? ... WarId=3938

It certainly makes this war more interesting to watch
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby rockfist on Thu May 06, 2021 10:55 am

It already was the R2 war that on paper was the most likely to be close. I have it 13-11 Fallen after the first round of games (I'm picking winners in all of the games to do that and some are very even).
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:31 am

I'm excited.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby josko.ri on Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:25 am

Swimmerdude99 wrote:I'm excited.

Me too!
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby Extreme Ways on Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:13 am

Very excited. While not included in the June update, REP will win their war against RET 30-11. This is interesting because FALL recently fought RET too and won 35-8. Of course there's randomness involved, but it helps in gauging how strong or weak REP is.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) -May 2021 ranking

Postby JPlo64 on Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:47 pm

plan to post tomorrow.


Get excited.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby JPlo64 on Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:10 am

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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby Extreme Ways on Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:18 am

Thanks JP
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby iAmCaffeine on Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:22 am

6 is my favourite number
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:41 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number


Hey, me too. If you flip it upside down... its my even favoriter numberer.

Put them together... and well 8-[
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby IcePack on Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:57 am

Tofu being 1 point from 5th is a bit surprising ngl
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby rockfist on Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:33 am

IcePack wrote:Tofu being 1 point from 5th is a bit surprising ngl


well we were 5th last month so 4th is improving.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby IcePack on Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:36 am

rockfist wrote:
IcePack wrote:Tofu being 1 point from 5th is a bit surprising ngl


well we were 5th last month so 4th is improving.


Shows how much I'm paying attention I guess :lol: Carry on 8-[
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby willedtowin1 on Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:44 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number

#7
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:17 am

willedtowin1 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number

#7
We are coming for you Coffee Breath

you gonna be #8 and us #7 soon because REP beat RGV so they're 6th. makes sense i know.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:40 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
willedtowin1 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number

#7
We are coming for you Coffee Breath

you gonna be #8 and us #7 soon because REP beat RGV so they're 6th. makes sense i know.


Lol, I think all the wins in RL are what's affecting our score :roll:

We just figured we would fight the same clans you did on entry so we could get a nice boosted entry into the D400.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:54 pm

Swimmerdude99 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
willedtowin1 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number

#7
We are coming for you Coffee Breath

you gonna be #8 and us #7 soon because REP beat RGV so they're 6th. makes sense i know.


Lol, I think all the wins in RL are what's affecting our score :roll:

We just figured we would fight the same clans you did on entry so we could get a nice boosted entry into the D400.

yeah we really wanted to play a 32-9 war vs lotz instead of a real clan lol. you should be looking at fall, osa and atl next then. i'd bet you win less than us :D
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby rockfist on Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:59 pm

Just beat LHDD, Caff. Then you can test how good you are ;)
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby IcePack on Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:20 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Swimmerdude99 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
willedtowin1 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number

#7
We are coming for you Coffee Breath

you gonna be #8 and us #7 soon because REP beat RGV so they're 6th. makes sense i know.


Lol, I think all the wins in RL are what's affecting our score :roll:

We just figured we would fight the same clans you did on entry so we could get a nice boosted entry into the D400.

yeah we really wanted to play a 32-9 war vs lotz instead of a real clan lol. you should be looking at fall, osa and atl next then. i'd bet you win less than us :D


How'd you come up with those? Bit of a weird group suggestion, #1, or 7, or 9th? ICON, OSA, FOED, ATL would be at least a similar grouping rank wise.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby Swimmerdude99 on Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:28 pm

IcePack wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Swimmerdude99 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
willedtowin1 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:6 is my favourite number

#7
We are coming for you Coffee Breath

you gonna be #8 and us #7 soon because REP beat RGV so they're 6th. makes sense i know.


Lol, I think all the wins in RL are what's affecting our score :roll:

We just figured we would fight the same clans you did on entry so we could get a nice boosted entry into the D400.

yeah we really wanted to play a 32-9 war vs lotz instead of a real clan lol. you should be looking at fall, osa and atl next then. i'd bet you win less than us :D


How'd you come up with those? Bit of a weird group suggestion, #1, or 7, or 9th? ICON, OSA, FOED, ATL would be at least a similar grouping rank wise.


That's the order they faced. They went RGV, LOTZ, pulled FALL in CC, then battled OSA and ATL. Where he got it wrong was that we'd win less than them :D

But on the real, you guys were 1147 at your debut and didn't face any elite competition in CL since second division shiz for starters. I'm sure when we enter CL that will lower our rank too if we compete only head to head with mid-ranked clans instead of cleaning up on them. Most of our matchups have gone well in our favor except for the top guys. I think 6th-8th makes sense for where we ought to be so it seems right in line. in RL we got beat up by A^ and will tie S&M but otherwise had really good records against opponents that are mid to lower-tier ranks. I would assume that helped us a bit to do okay against S&M and do pretty well against most other guys in RL
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby rockfist on Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:54 pm

ICON will likely be ranked ahead of TOFU after our ATL war concludes as we won't have a huge margin of victory, but if you get by LHDD we will see if you are better.
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby Donelladan on Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:12 am

rockfist wrote:ICON will likely be ranked ahead of TOFU after our ATL war concludes as we won't have a huge margin of victory, but if you get by LHDD we will see if you are better.



You need a big point difference to lose point in the ranking when you win a war, ATL is high enough so that you'll win a few points.

That's how formula works :
Clan A vs Clan B.
if clan A wins.
Clan A performance = Clan B score + 200 + 400 * ( games won - game lost ) / total games
Clan B performance = Clan A score - 200 + 400 * ( games won - game lost )/ total games

Example:
Clan A has a score of 1400
Clan B has a score of 1600
Clan A win 33 to 27
Clan A performance will be = 1600 + 200 + 400 * (33-27)/60 = 1840
Clan B performance will be = 1400 - 200 + 400*(27-33)/60 = 1160


Therefore in the case ATL vs TOFU, assuming TOFU win by one point, since ATL has ranking of1162 it gives
Tofu performance is = 1162 + 200 + 400 * (25-24)/49 = 1370.
Since your current score is 1326, you're going to win points by winning against ATL by one point.

ATL is going to be doing :
ATL performance = 1326 - 200 + (-1)/49 = 1118, which is also going to make them lose a few points since they have a score of 1162 currently.

Taking the D800, you need to replace 400 by 800, and it's the same formula ( I don't think Jplo changed the 200 fixed value) .
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Re: D400 (Official Clan Ranking) - June 2021 ranking

Postby JPlo64 on Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:56 am

Donelladan wrote:
rockfist wrote:ICON will likely be ranked ahead of TOFU after our ATL war concludes as we won't have a huge margin of victory, but if you get by LHDD we will see if you are better.



You need a big point difference to lose point in the ranking when you win a war, ATL is high enough so that you'll win a few points.

That's how formula works :
Clan A vs Clan B.
if clan A wins.
Clan A performance = Clan B score + 200 + 400 * ( games won - game lost ) / total games
Clan B performance = Clan A score - 200 + 400 * ( games won - game lost )/ total games

Example:
Clan A has a score of 1400
Clan B has a score of 1600
Clan A win 33 to 27
Clan A performance will be = 1600 + 200 + 400 * (33-27)/60 = 1840
Clan B performance will be = 1400 - 200 + 400*(27-33)/60 = 1160


Therefore in the case ATL vs TOFU, assuming TOFU win by one point, since ATL has ranking of1162 it gives
Tofu performance is = 1162 + 200 + 400 * (25-24)/49 = 1370.
Since your current score is 1326, you're going to win points by winning against ATL by one point.

ATL is going to be doing :
ATL performance = 1326 - 200 + (-1)/49 = 1118, which is also going to make them lose a few points since they have a score of 1162 currently.

Taking the D800, you need to replace 400 by 800, and it's the same formula ( I don't think Jplo changed the 200 fixed value) .

The alternate ranking DJ800 actually uses 100 and 700.
I like using 800 here signifying that max/min is +/- 800. Seems like a more intuitive number.
W should notate it something like D(2,4) for D400 and D(1,7) For the DJ800.
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