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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:23 pm
by zip_disk

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:34 pm
by hendy
hawkeye wrote:NO POPUPS. There we go. w already moved the "end" buttont all the way right.


we dont need popups you that screen you get when you delete a post it says are you sure you want to delete this post? How about something like that?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:42 pm
by Herakilla
if you are still hitting the wrong button i have one word

GLASSES

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:06 pm
by kc-jake
Herakilla wrote:if you are still hitting the wrong button i have one word

GLASSES


kc-jake wrote:And regardless, I don't need glasses, my vision is just fine. Thanks for the cop-out, though.


My earlier statement still stands.

And zip_disk, you have just proven my point that I'm not the first person to have a problem with the button.

This isn't the flame wars forum. If you don't have constructive criticism or "I'm agree"s to say, then why are you here, other than attempting to make you feel better about yourself by criticizing others with intelligent arguments?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:16 pm
by Herakilla
alright im sorry its just im in a crappy mood cause i got a migraine right now

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:24 pm
by kc-jake
Herakilla wrote:alright im sorry its just im in a crappy mood cause i got a migraine right now


Ugh, I know how that goes. Only thing that works for me is sleeping, sometimes I gotta clal it a night. One time I got one working the closing shift in Seafood at a grocery store... some poor chump had to close up while I went home and crashed. Migraines suck.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:20 pm
by zip_disk
kc-jake wrote:And zip_disk, you have just proven my point that I'm not the first person to have a problem with the button.


Did you actually read the thread? There was a problem, it was fixed. Your "solution" was removed because noone else had a problem anymore. There are other more important things on the "To do" list.

lack (the admin and person who would program it) has already responded to the matter and still you keep pushing it. Its an unnecessary addition for a minor problem. Your solution is to keep it out of the mainstream's way? Why do it then?

If this is such a big problem for you, just make a greasemonkey script yourself that adds a confirmation box.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:35 pm
by thejackofhearts
On Landgrab, they have a button in the fortify step that lets you go back to attacking as long as you haven't fortified anywhere yet.

As for the end fortifications button, all I can say is pay attention.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:14 am
by lackattack
Okay here's where I stand on the checkbox confirmation option. I think it's a silly feature that I would never use but I will eventually cave in and program it because people keep requesting it. I won't cave in any time soon because I am busy working on more important improvements and there is not enough pressure for it at this time.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:11 am
by reverend_kyle
How wasted do you have to be to miss the attack button that bad.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:19 am
by x
I sometimes hit the End Attack/End Fortification buttons instead of the Attack/Fortify buttons.

It happens when I have my browser closer to 800 pixels wide than 60,000 pixels wide. At times, like when territory names are long enough, the End Attack button appears directly under the Attack button, and in the middle of "battle" it's an extraordinarily easy mistake to make.

If enough people complain about something, you have to believe that it's a problem with the design and not with all the people.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:12 am
by kc-jake
Now that we have the official word, I will say no more, except to post here as a reminder every month or so.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:15 am
by AndyDufresne
No need, I'll put it on the 'to-do' list for lack, but like he said, it might be a long while. ;)


--Andy

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:47 pm
by sully800
kc-jake wrote:Now that we have the official word, I will say no more, except to post here as a reminder every month or so.


I just want to point out that the reason people may have seemed hostile to you and your idea is because we have been over this argument MANY times in MANY threads. Lack has given his opinion on it in those other threads, and feels that moving the end attacks button to the other side of the screen was sufficient. The problem is simply that when you post on here a lot, it gets very tiresome to rehash the same ideas and arguments again and again (see also: AndyDufresne's life).

Overall, I still fail to understand how you could have made this mistake 4 times (over the course of 7 games!), because the buttons are no where near each other. Whenever I am playing a round that I feel is important I take time to make sure I know what I am doing. I am not saying this to create a personal attack against you, but I just feel that if you can't pay attention to what button you are pushing then your strategy in the game is probably not getting enough focus either. Everyone in general should slow down if they find themselves making mistakes.

That being said, if you are playing a real time freestyle game or some other masochisticly confusing ordeal, you may have to play very quickly. In that situation you may make mistakes, but if you rush so much that you blunder through the game I consider it your own fault.

I can't remember if I ever ended attacks early, but I know one time I accidentally deployed a huge force of armies to the wrong country. They ended up on one of the countries in my backlines that was blocked by all my other territories so I could not attack. That was no ones mistake but my own, so I have simply played more carefully ever since.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:22 pm
by Ishiro
I was bored...

If you are using Firefox and have Greasemonkey installed, go to: http://www.probablynot.com/greasemonkey ... ds.user.js and install that script. It will add confirmation dialogs to the End Attacks and End Fortification buttons.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:23 pm
by kc-jake
Ishiro wrote:I was bored...

If you are using Firefox and have Greasemonkey installed, go to: http://www.probablynot.com/greasemonkey ... ds.user.js and install that script. It will add confirmation dialogs to the End Attacks and End Fortification buttons.

Hmm. I'll have to install greasemonkey then.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:17 pm
by lackattack
Well done, Ishiro!

You should PM Twill to add it to his sticky post on 3rd party plugins (if you haven't done so yet)

EDIT: Andy, it doesn't have to go on my to-do list anymore :mrgreen:

PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:21 pm
by AndyDufresne
Haha, alright. :D


--Andy

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:08 am
by kc-jake
I've been using the script and it rules. I have yet to hit the wrong button and need to be saved, but if I can do it 5 times in the 10 days I've been here, I'm sure there will be opportunity. Unfortunately, I have to install this all at work too.

And Lack, are you in need of help with coding? I noticed you use PHP (which is good) and I assume you use MySQL for your database since you use phpBB. I am a self-proclaimed expert in both, and would be willing to help with coding new things, or simply debugging your work as you complete it (think of it as "peer-review"). Let me know if you're interested.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:28 am
by reverend_kyle
Can someone program a greasemonkey to make me get straight 6's

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:18 am
by Ishiro
reverend_kyle wrote:Can someone program a greasemonkey to make me get straight 6's

Sure... I can make the game show you all 6's, but it will just be an illusion. :)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:52 am
by lackattack
kc-jake wrote:And Lack, are you in need of help with coding? I noticed you use PHP (which is good) and I assume you use MySQL for your database since you use phpBB. I am a self-proclaimed expert in both, and would be willing to help with coding new things, or simply debugging your work as you complete it (think of it as "peer-review"). Let me know if you're interested.


Thanks for the offer kc-jake. I like to do most coding myself, but I'll keep you in mind should I have something I need help with :)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:54 am
by wicked
reverend_kyle wrote:Can someone program a greasemonkey to make me straight?


I don't think that's possible. :lol:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:37 am
by sully800
Burned by the nearly naked redhead!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:10 am
by Fireside Poet
sully800 wrote:Burned by the nearly naked redhead!


Strange that that doesn't even move reverend_kyle. :D