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Index of Farming Suggestions

Postby agentcom on Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:49 pm

This Index is now considered ARCHIVED and OUTDATED. Updates to this will be continued in the Master Suggestions Index

This thread is an index for suggestions that purport to reduce farming either by design or as an added benefit. The official status of almost all of these suggestions is REJECTED. There have been many users with many different ideas about how to best reduce farming. Thus far, nearly all of them have been officially rejected for various reasons. If you must post your idea on how or why any such feature should be implemented, we ask you to first read the various types of ideas and the history of those ideas that have been suggested before. Feel free to continue the discussion in the appropriate thread, or if your idea is truly unique, post a new topic. Please post in this thread or inform a moderator if you find another thread that should be indexed here. Thank you. --agentcom

MANDATORY TECHNOLOGICAL LIMITATIONS ON THE ABILITY TO JOIN GAMES [REJECTED]

The following suggestions would impose mandatory (non-optional limits) on the ability to join a game.

Limit the number of new recruits per game

Limit to 33% - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=90699&p=2092790&hilit=farming#p2092790
Limit to 1 - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=92242#p2120909

Limit the ability to join games by relative points/rank

By a point ratio - viewtopic.php?f=4&t=174524
By difference in rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=68189&p=1666551
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=68577&p=1674031
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=73061 (A more complex "difference by rank" suggestion)
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=89893&p=2076949&hilit=farming#p2076949
By classifying scoreboard into divisions by position on scoreboard - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=66098
By classifying scoreboard into divisions by points/rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=73618&p=1770761&hilit=farming#p1770761
By difference in amount of games played - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=75483&p=1805536&hilit=farming#p1805536
By limiting the amount of games freemiums can join depending on rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=88707&p=2052576&hilit=farming#p2052576
By a progressive system "unlocking" features for new players - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=102006&p=2283192&hilit=farming#p2283192
By banning new recruits from nuclear spoils games - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=105260&p=2373557&hilit=farming#p2373557
By banning new recruits from freestyle games - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=117415&p=2594820&hilit=farming#p2594820
By banning new recruits from Peloponnesian War - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=151985&p=3323192
By banning new recruits from Woodboro - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=129886&p=2847147
By only allowing new recruits to play against other new recruits - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=104736&p=2364973&hilit=farming#p2364973
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=155639&p=3410090&hilit=farming#p3410090
By banning new recruits from playing against officers or players with 100+ games: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=122926&p=2701709&hilit=farming#p2701709
By disallowing invitations to opposite team to low ranking players - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=124735&p=2740628&hilit=farming#p2740628
By only allowing new recruits to play 3 player games or non-officer ranks or other new recruits - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=140906&p=3077689&hilit=farming#p3077689

Limit the ability of known farmers to join games with new recruits

viewtopic.php?f=471&t=69223&p=1686854

OPTIONAL LIMITATIONS ON THE ABILITY TO JOIN GAMES [REJECTED]

The following suggestions would allow the creator of a game to set limits on who could join his or her game.

By setting a minimum and/or maximum points or rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=274#p1453
By allowing the above only for premiums - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=100129&p=2274718
By disallowing lower ranked players - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=68844
By points, games or turn percentage: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=103184&p=2334949
Allow sorting of Game Finder search results by rank: viewtopic.php?f=471&t=104785&p=2365772
By age - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=105383&p=2376063&hilit=farming#p2376063
Allow players to drop games with high point difference - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=156448&p=3429757

THE SCARLET LETTER [REJECTED]

The following suggestions would publicly distinguish those who engage in farming.

By posting average opponent's points to profile - viewtopic.php?p=1707433
By making a separate scoreboard for farmers based on relative opponent rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=70978&p=1719383
By making a separate scoreboard for complainers - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=71737&p=1734374
By giving a "medal" for farming - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=109087&p=2447918
By creating a "Wall of Shame" - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=127067&p=2784882

CHANGES TO THE SCORING SYSTEM [REJECTED]

The following suggestions promote changes to the scoring system either with the express intent or added benefit of reducing farming.

Generally:

Less points for team wins and wins against lower ranks - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=119242
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=120108&p=2644165
Remove maximum point loss - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=81499&p=1917893
viewtopic.php?f=471&t=81549&p=1919149
Count highest teammate's score twice - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=89814&p=2076181
Periodic Score resets - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=122926
Eliminate point system - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=139422&p=3042971
Elo ranking system - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=142006&p=3100722

Formulas:

New = Old + K * (Win - Win Expectancy) - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=73494&p=1768762
New = Old + (Loser/Winner)^2 * 20 - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=76119&p=1816798
Using Relative Rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=76271&p=1820131
Two options simplifying scoring system based on rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=120108&p=2644165

Other methods limiting or disallowing points to be awarded for certain games:

By difference in rank - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=75243&p=1800596
For team games on certain maps/settings against low ranks - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=75435&p=1804760
Maximum points for any given map and settings combination - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=83701&p=1957196
New recruits are point-neutral - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=100538&p=2282672
No points for games on beta maps - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=129617&p=2841984
New recruit can win points, but ranked player cannot - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=149047&p=3254747

HIDING INFORMATION THAT IS CURRENTLY ACCESSIBLE [REJECTED]

The following suggestions promote hiding currently available information

Remove "our newest member" from bottom of forums page - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=73644&p=1770954
Hide new recruit's statistics - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=162532&p=3553125

LIMITING OR ALTERING FOE ABILITIES [REJECTED]

The following suggestions propose limiting or altering a player's foe abilities.

Limit number of player's that can be foed - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=101653&p=2305216

MISCELLANEOUS OTHER [REJECTED]

The following suggestions will supposedly limit farming, but do not fall into the above categories.

An algorithm for finding farmers - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=89772&p=2073817
Broaden definition of farming beyond new recruits - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=90177&p=2082371
Randomize partners in team games - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=74202
Group and sort games, settings and maps by difficulty - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=101053&p=2292856
Rate maps by difficulty - viewtopic.php?f=471&t=114094&p=2533809
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Re: Index of Farming Suggestions

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:44 pm

This is awesome.

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Re: Index of Farming Suggestions

Postby Gillipig on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:11 pm

You've done a lot of digging here. This is useful when you want to know what suggestions the site owner have considered. Let me be the first to thank you. (sully doesn't count. He thanks everyone for everything :P)
But why is this in the archived rejected section? Pointless to have it here. If you want people to read it at least place it in the submitted section, were some people might actually venture (not many however). Mere coincidence that I even found it.
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Re: Index of Farming Suggestions

Postby agentcom on Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:35 pm

I couldn't think of a better place for it to be. It's not really a suggestion at all and I wasn't sure that I wanted to clutter other pages with it. Since most of the suggestions were rejected, I could only think to put it here. But I totally know what you mean. Maybe it should be somewhere else. I'll see what the other mods think.

Also, my reasoning was that (1) if people are doing what they're supposed to be doing and searching before posting a suggestion, this thread will probably show up; (2) if they're not (imagine that!), then at least I know where it is and I can go merge their suggestion more quickly.
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