Re: Dice
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:47 pm
Conquer Club, a free online multiplayer variation of a popular world domination board game.
https://beta.conquerclub.com/forum/
https://beta.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=199767
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Jippd wrote:What is the average distribution of all those bar graphs?
The graph he was referring to had players with 40,000 - 4.5 Million rolls. Almost everyone with a significant number of rolls has an average of 3.51, and I haven't seen anyone with less than 3.50. Here are your dice stats:KoE_Sirius wrote:Jippd wrote:What is the average distribution of all those bar graphs?
Ummm what ? The dice on this site go in waves.Some weeks they are good.Some weeks they are bad.If they are truly random it would be some turns they are good and some turns they are bad.Yes of course if you roll 1000 times you'll probably get a fair average.However if you roll the dice 10 times on here.No way.
Risk2 or Axis&Allies online,The dice are much closer to playing with real dice.
Conspiracy solved.
degaston wrote:The graph he was referring to had players with 40,000 - 4.5 Million rolls. Almost everyone with a significant number of rolls has an average of 3.51, and I haven't seen anyone with less than 3.50. Here are your dice stats:KoE_Sirius wrote:Jippd wrote:What is the average distribution of all those bar graphs?
Ummm what ? The dice on this site go in waves.Some weeks they are good.Some weeks they are bad.If they are truly random it would be some turns they are good and some turns they are bad.Yes of course if you roll 1000 times you'll probably get a fair average.However if you roll the dice 10 times on here.No way.
Risk2 or Axis&Allies online,The dice are much closer to playing with real dice.
Conspiracy solved.
They match everyone else's (except BigWham and Metsfanmax, who for some reason are the only people with a below average count of 2's)
Conspiracy on!
Dez Dispenser wrote:My dice average is at 3.47
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... _id=654612
degaston wrote:The graph he was referring to had players with 40,000 - 4.5 Million rolls. Almost everyone with a significant number of rolls has an average of 3.51, and I haven't seen anyone with less than 3.50. Here are your dice stats:KoE_Sirius wrote:Jippd wrote:What is the average distribution of all those bar graphs?
Ummm what ? The dice on this site go in waves.Some weeks they are good.Some weeks they are bad.If they are truly random it would be some turns they are good and some turns they are bad.Yes of course if you roll 1000 times you'll probably get a fair average.However if you roll the dice 10 times on here.No way.
Risk2 or Axis&Allies online,The dice are much closer to playing with real dice.
Conspiracy solved.
They match everyone else's (except BigWham and Metsfanmax, who for some reason are the only people with a below average count of 2's)
Conspiracy on!
KoE_Sirius wrote:KoE_Sirius wrote:...Yes of course if you roll 1000 times you'll probably get a fair average....
This confirms my quote.Except you turned 1000 rolls into 4.5 million. Roll ten times on any given day and you'll either have good or bad dice.Not average.Roll real dice 10 times and you'll get average dice.Plus rolling 100 troops vs 14 should never ever result in a loss.That's more like a computer glitch.
Conspiracy
degaston wrote:KoE_Sirius wrote:KoE_Sirius wrote:...Yes of course if you roll 1000 times you'll probably get a fair average....
This confirms my quote.Except you turned 1000 rolls into 4.5 million. Roll ten times on any given day and you'll either have good or bad dice.Not average.Roll real dice 10 times and you'll get average dice.Plus rolling 100 troops vs 14 should never ever result in a loss.That's more like a computer glitch.
Conspiracy
I'm not sure which quote you're saying I confirmed. My point was that you should get a fair average (each number appears the same % of the time) over millions of rolls, but no one does. 1000 rolls is not enough to see the bias in the CC dice. About 40,000 is usually enough.
As for streaks, I've seen in threads that there are "millions of dice rolls here per day", so let's assume 60 million rolls per month. You can expect a streak of 12 of the same number in a row to occur once every 60 million rolls, so it's likely to happen to somebody about once a month, and shorter streaks will happen even more often.
If you consider that an attacker has a 29.26% chance of losing 2 troops on a roll, then about twice every three months, someone is going to attack and lose 30 troops in a row, while the defender loses none. These kinds of streaks are to be expected, but to the unlucky player that gets them, it makes the dice look unfair, so they start a thread to complain about them. I haven't seen any evidence that the CC dice are more or less streaky than you would expect from real life.
Jdsizzleslice wrote:These dice aren't random anymore. There is no way I should lose over 700 points in 2 days, and almost 1000 in one week, just due to dice. This really needs to be looked at and revamped. I'm at the point to where I can't take this anymore. It's infuriating to know that every 13v5 is a loss. Every. Single. One. Multiplayer games that should be won with a simple 13v6. Loss. You can't eliminate someone. You lose the game. Every. Single Time. Had enough.
codierose wrote:Jdsizzleslice wrote:These dice aren't random anymore. There is no way I should lose over 700 points in 2 days, and almost 1000 in one week, just due to dice. This really needs to be looked at and revamped. I'm at the point to where I can't take this anymore. It's infuriating to know that every 13v5 is a loss. Every. Single. One. Multiplayer games that should be won with a simple 13v6. Loss. You can't eliminate someone. You lose the game. Every. Single Time. Had enough.
can i ask was these autos in a freestyle game
Jdsizzleslice wrote:These dice aren't random anymore. There is no way I should lose over 700 points in 2 days, and almost 1000 in one week, just due to dice. This really needs to be looked at and revamped. I'm at the point to where I can't take this anymore. It's infuriating to know that every 13v5 is a loss. Every. Single. One. Multiplayer games that should be won with a simple 13v6. Loss. You can't eliminate someone. You lose the game. Every. Single Time. Had enough.
Jdsizzleslice wrote:codierose wrote:Jdsizzleslice wrote:These dice aren't random anymore. There is no way I should lose over 700 points in 2 days, and almost 1000 in one week, just due to dice. This really needs to be looked at and revamped. I'm at the point to where I can't take this anymore. It's infuriating to know that every 13v5 is a loss. Every. Single. One. Multiplayer games that should be won with a simple 13v6. Loss. You can't eliminate someone. You lose the game. Every. Single Time. Had enough.
can i ask was these autos in a freestyle game
No. These were also in standard games and in non speeders. Now I'm currently down to 2600 and am about to lose another 100 points with the games I'm about to lose in the next few days.
Vaduzkrieg wrote:And can anyone tell me why Neutrals are 10 times harder to defeat? Is there a place to see your stats vs neutrals?
I have a couple buddies who have all noticed you get killed a lot more when attacking them.
degaston wrote:Dez Dispenser wrote:My dice average is at 3.47
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... _id=654612
You've only played 19 games. Check again once you get to around 100. (Though I admit, your 4's, 5's and 6's suck right now.)
Dez Dispenser wrote:degaston wrote:Dez Dispenser wrote:My dice average is at 3.47
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... _id=654612
You've only played 19 games. Check again once you get to around 100. (Though I admit, your 4's, 5's and 6's suck right now.)
However most of my games have been on World 2.1 so I am rolling large amounts of dice per game