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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby sm8900 on Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:07 pm

Pirlo wrote:When I look at the number of online users, I see it's like only 60% of the number I used to find a year ago.

This indicates CC is not even stable and non-growing; rather, it's declining!

17315 are the current users. I think they used to be +20.000 last year. :-k


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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:08 pm

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby stringybeany on Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:11 pm

just back after a couple year's hiatus. Yeah it's not like the old days and never will be again, but there are enough hard core lifers to keep it open, at least for now.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:30 pm

sm8900 wrote:
Pirlo wrote:When I look at the number of online users, I see it's like only 60% of the number I used to find a year ago.

This indicates CC is not even stable and non-growing; rather, it's declining!

17315 are the current users. I think they used to be +20.000 last year. :-k


show: May 20th

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i think we will be fine! :-)


Someone posted a graph with the numbers for several years. It was posted about one year ago, with an update. I think it is in this thread, if anyone wants to "resurrect it" for a current view. The overall pattern is a decline, with a small bump up due to COVID restrictions.

The reasons for the decline are well documented here, once you get past the snapshot numbers that are the most frequent posts here. The site continues loses members and attracts few "hard-core" Risk Players.

BUT most websites show a decline as the market has fragmented, much as movies attendance (Pre-COVID) and TV networks and shows have too. My wife watches videos, often on YouTube, on her iPad and now rarely watches "normal TV" anymore, network, cable, satellite, or streaming. I made similar points in posts over the past few years, with data to support some of my points.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:37 pm

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:43 pm



Thanks, IcePack. I knew someone more knowledgeable than I would find it. I wasted about 10 minutes looking for that graph....!

I like the graphs to better see the overall Trend(s) and not pay attention as much to the "Snapshot" one moment numbers.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:51 pm

Absolutely agree...but without forgetting those snapshot numbers have endlessly provided the visual delight of the trend......especially when it's anything with 69 in it ;)
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:57 pm

Interesting how the initial lockdown sent us back 8 years to user amounts...much like covid has sent the World back a decade in development. (in some cases advanced too)
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Maisel002 on Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:20 am

Part of the reason for the decline is BULLSHIT dice. I stopped playing for a year. Came back today and played one game. Guess what?? I got fucked on rolls. I am done with this shit hole website.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby riskllama on Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:16 pm

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:55 pm

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Suppurator on Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:59 am

I've been here for a wee while.
I used to really enjoy the site. Close games. Sure, sometimes the dice sucked. Sometimes the drop did too. Sometimes they both double-teamed you. Generally though, the honours were pretty well shared.

Now, it's a f&*king mess. Terrible dice odds are regular. Ohhh - I know. Nothing has changed with the dice calculator. But something NEEDS to happen. Often, when I win, I feel I need to apologise to the other player because the game was so skewed.

I'm not going away - but CC will never get another dollar for premium membership from me.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby IcePack on Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:38 pm

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Setnimel on Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:43 am

People leave for various reasons, life changes and things move on. I stopped playing for a around 3 years and have come back in the last couple of days for a bit of fun. I think instead of looking at the reasons why people leave for technifiser.com, the bigger question is why new people are put off joining. You can't keep everybody playing CC at the end of the day, but to maintain a healthy user base there needs to be people joining CC too.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:56 am

:roll: I am presuming that is one less for the total now .... :-$
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:52 pm

Setnimel wrote:People leave for various reasons, life changes and things move on. I stopped playing for a around 3 years and have come back in the last couple of days for a bit of fun. I think instead of looking at the reasons why people leave, the bigger question is why new people are put off joining. You can't keep everybody playing CC at the end of the day, but to maintain a healthy user base there needs to be people joining CC too.


I think some possible reasons for this decline have been discussed in this very thread. I know I have offered a few theories over the past few years.

I think there are a few main reasons:

1) this game is not easily played on a cell phone (it is TOO complex);
2) the game does not appeal to those who grew up playing NES (or other such gaming systems) or video games with all the "Bells and Whistles";
3) the 24 hour wait is a turn-off to many younger players; it is TOO SLOW.
4) Many younger gamers never played the BOARD game Risk in RL and so this format does not appeal to them.
5) There are simply TOO MANY OTHER gaming options that offer # 1-2 and are JUS more appealing to the younger gamers.
6) Nothing is constant and this site must evolve to attract new players. I do not see the "Other Games" as a big draw to combat the decline.
7) People change; some come and some go, as in Real Life. Some leave, some return, and we add a few new players here and there.
8) The bump up due to COVID restrictions will not last. We have kept few from that bump; I am a Guide (and Super Guide, too) and have seen many NR GO and never return. SOME barely stay on CC more than 3 minutes.

BTW:
I play some games on another game site (Pogo) and that too has seen a decline. I started a similar thread as this and IT WAS REMOVED by the "Powers to Be" as (I assume) they did not want the decline to be documented. I was NOT given any notice of its removal until I went to the Forum and I COULD NOT FIND IT.

BOTTOM LINE (or nearly so):
As long as there are those of us who enjoy the strategy and challenge of the RISK game concepts, and enjoy playing with other good game players, this site will survive in some form, at least a few more years.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby TeeGee on Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:01 am

Davie.K wrote::roll: I am presuming that is one less for the total now .... :-$


wont reflect on the scoreboard if he doesn't take his turn

I'm keeping botboy around to humour me a little, see what he comes up with next, if anything
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby DetroitMojo on Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:41 am

Sometimes I wonder about the mental health of people who've played 6,274 games on this site. Like riskllama.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:15 am

TeeGee wrote:
Davie.K wrote::roll: I am presuming that is one less for the total now .... :-$


wont reflect on the scoreboard if he doesn't take his turn

I'm keeping botboy around to humour me a little, see what he comes up with next, if anything


:D like your style :twisted:
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby KraphtOne on Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:14 pm

I tell ya when K1 left it killed this place...
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:02 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:BTW:
I play some games on another game site (Pogo) and that too has seen a decline. I started a similar thread as this and IT WAS REMOVED by the "Powers to Be" as (I assume) they did not want the decline to be documented. I was NOT given any notice of its removal until I went to the Forum and I COULD NOT FIND IT.

Yes. People often bitch about censorship on this site, but this site tolerates a level of criticism of itself that would never be permitted on most other sites.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:25 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:BTW:
I play some games on another game site (Pogo) and that too has seen a decline. I started a similar thread as this and IT WAS REMOVED by the "Powers to Be" as (I assume) they did not want the decline to be documented. I was NOT given any notice of its removal until I went to the Forum and I COULD NOT FIND IT.

Yes. People often bitch about censorship on this site, but this site tolerates a level of criticism of itself that would never be permitted on most other sites.


I think that Pogo does not permit ANY discussion of religion or politics. That keeps much controversies OUT and off their site. As I recall, they quickly delete post viewed as harmful, from what little I saw of that on Pogo. They have moderators too, to enforce rules for fair play and "clean" chat.
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:25 pm

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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby Davie.K on Sat May 01, 2021 8:56 am

Was hoping for a bit of a rally overnight,think it got up to 6004...but the inevitable has happened....dropped below the 6 grand ...5,993
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Re: CC is declining again!

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon May 03, 2021 5:49 am

is there any way to stabilize, or even, to reverse this long-term decline?

And please, do not turn this into a complaint about dice. that topic has been discussed ad nauseum.
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