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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Wed Aug 20, 2014 2:51 pm

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Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!

That stuff only matters to seasoned users, it's not seasoned users that are leaving, just one glance at the scoreboard will tell you there's a crapton of colonels and above, more so than two or three years ago, even though CC has lost more than a third of it's users during that time. CC shouldn't care about opinions like this, fiddeling with add ons isn't going to attract new users and keeping old users has been attempted for a long time now without success.


I'm looking at the join games tab now and 90% of the games on offer are games set up as point hoarding, weird maps and awkward settings that turns me as an experienced user off, imagine what it'll do to a newbie? No wonder the numbers are declining, the point hoarders have taken over. Too much choice has ruined the fun of this site. CC needs to get back to basics, cut all these ridiculously newbie unfriendly settings and ignore the complaints of the point horders who can no longer hoard points.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:36 am

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Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!

That stuff only matters to seasoned users, it's not seasoned users that are leaving, just one glance at the scoreboard will tell you there's a crapton of colonels and above, more so than two or three years ago, even though CC has lost more than a third of it's users during that time. CC shouldn't care about opinions like this, fiddeling with add ons isn't going to attract new users and keeping old users has been attempted for a long time now without success.


I'm looking at the join games tab now and 90% of the games on offer are games set up as point hoarding, weird maps and awkward settings that turns me as an experienced user off, imagine what it'll do to a newbie? No wonder the numbers are declining, the point hoarders have taken over. Too much choice has ruined the fun of this site. CC needs to get back to basics, cut all these ridiculously newbie unfriendly settings and ignore the complaints of the point horders who can no longer hoard points.

There's no reason why people who like basic games and people who like complex games can't co-exist on the same site. All it takes is a simple toggle between Basic and Advanced games on the Join a Game page.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby jammyjames on Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:36 am

What difference does discussion do if it doesn't get heard?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:06 pm

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Donelladan on Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:02 am

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Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!


Funny I thought the new panel interface basically did everything BOB did. And that clickable maps are a part of CC since a long time.
What are you missing from BOB and Clickable maps that is not currently a part of CC ?
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby betiko on Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:29 am

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Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!


Funny I thought the new panel interface basically did everything BOB did. And that clickable maps are a part of CC since a long time.
What are you missing from BOB and Clickable maps that is not currently a part of CC ?


It s just worse. I just refuse to play with something not as good, I m just back from a mothly break and I see everything is bugging, I m just losing my will to play.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Donelladan on Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:38 am

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tec805 wrote:
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Your Premium Membership is going to expire within the next few days.

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Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!


Funny I thought the new panel interface basically did everything BOB did. And that clickable maps are a part of CC since a long time.
What are you missing from BOB and Clickable maps that is not currently a part of CC ?


It s just worse. I just refuse to play with something not as good, I m just back from a mothly break and I see everything is bugging, I m just losing my will to play.



I am not using all options available on the panel interface, only the snaps and sometimes map inspect, but those 2 are working quite well, trust me.
Probably it is a bit different to what you have been used to, but it is not bad.
After that maybe there is other functionality that are not working properly, I dunno, but I am sure they'll be fix anytime soon if this is the case.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby tec805 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:10 pm

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I am not using all options available on the panel interface, only the snaps and sometimes map inspect, but those 2 are working quite well, trust me.
Probably it is a bit different to what you have been used to, but it is not bad.
After that maybe there is other functionality that are not working properly, I dunno, but I am sure they'll be fix anytime soon if this is the case.


Think of it like riding a bike. You learn to ride a bike, it takes you where you want to go, you enjoy how it feels, you like how it looks, the simplicity and ease of use. Then one day your bike has been vandalized! You're told by the bike shop (that didn't build or sell you the bike of course) that that bike is no longer supported, even though they could fix it for you if they wanted. They give you a unicycle and tell you "It's just as good, it will get you where you need to go, you'll enjoy the wind in your face exactly the same!".

Alas, you know it will never be the same :cry:

Less enjoyment = Less playing
Less playing = Less reason to spend time on CC
Less time on CC = Less thinking about CC
Less thinking about CC = Finding other things to do, forgetting about CC (Clash of Clans & Boom Beach are taking up much more of my time now)
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Donelladan on Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:48 pm

But now BOB is a part of CC as a lot of people have been asking for a very long time.
I think they replace your unicycle by a bike, not the other way around ;).
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Agent 86 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:59 pm

Donelladan wrote:But now BOB is a part of CC as a lot of people have been asking for a very long time.
I think they replace your unicycle by a bike, not the other way around ;).


Oh Don, please. I now longer bother with greasemonkey. Admin have totally ignored BoB and their version is not even close, it's worse :twisted: :twisted:

We have gone from a superbike to an outdated unicycle!!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:11 pm

ive been curious about clash of clans. is it any good? like as far as playing with friends? ill look at boom beach. i have not hearr of that.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Army of GOD on Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:15 pm

Army of GOD wrote:9760


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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:28 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:9760


9763


The Great Decline does appear to be stabalizing a bit for now. but only time will tell the future.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby tec805 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:46 pm

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:ive been curious about clash of clans. is it any good? like as far as playing with friends? ill look at boom beach. i have not hearr of that.


CoC is great, but as with any free-to-play there are in-game purchases that can speed up your progress. Not really play-with-friends, but you can be in a clan together and make fun of each others crappy bases. The publisher is top-notch, they don't try to shove purchases down your throat all the time (such as Monster Legends or many other pay-to-win games). Boom Beach is by the same publisher but is a step down overall. I'm at the point in Clash that I have to often wait multiple days until I have one of my four workers free to start a new project. During the down time you can collect loot from others, but if you can't spend it you become a target from others. After playing for 4 or 5 months I spent $10 on gems to be able to build my Barbarian King. The game is worth more than the $10 I spent on it so far, I won't feel guilty buying gems again in the future.

Donelladan wrote:But now BOB is a part of CC as a lot of people have been asking for a very long time.
I think they replace your unicycle by a bike, not the other way around ;).


I'm not sure what they're paying you (stars? you can have all mine), but to compare Panels to BOB tells me you weren't a BOB user. Built in CC clickies aren't even in the same league as Clickable Maps. You've been here longer than me, you very well remember how quickly you could clear a map in a speed game with Clickable Maps (and when the server was responsive enough that you couldn't click faster than it could react).
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:54 pm

betiko wrote:
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Your Premium Membership is going to expire within the next few days.

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Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!


Funny I thought the new panel interface basically did everything BOB did. And that clickable maps are a part of CC since a long time.
What are you missing from BOB and Clickable maps that is not currently a part of CC ?


It s just worse. I just refuse to play with something not as good, I m just back from a mothly break and I see everything is bugging, I m just losing my will to play.

You've been a member for a couple of years now, you should be tired of it, the people who never gets bored by it are the weird ones.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:59 am

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YES! AIN'T DONE YET BABY!!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Mr Changsha on Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:29 am

Gillipig wrote:9748

YES! AIN'T DONE YET BABY!!


I can confidently predict that the 'great decline' is over.

Long live theWHAM!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:12 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
Gillipig wrote:9748

YES! AIN'T DONE YET BABY!!


I can confidently predict that the 'great decline' is over.

Long live theWHAM!


9739

looks like another slide is trending. i predict 9500 by next friday.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Mr Changsha on Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:18 am

WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
Gillipig wrote:9748

YES! AIN'T DONE YET BABY!!


I can confidently predict that the 'great decline' is over.

Long live theWHAM!


9739

looks like another slide is trending. i predict 9500 by next friday.


Pessimist.

Just because a few players have figuratively popped out to buy a pint of milk is no reason to panic. They'll be back...honestly you just would have sucked massively in the blitz.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby ConfederateSS on Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:36 am

Yeah,just go to join a game page Duke....That now takes 5 years to scroll from page 1 to 20..Like I said in Q & A...The drop down box doesn't work anymore...If you just want to go to say page 34..One more reason to love the High Command.....I am getting ready to start playing just one game at a time.I'll finish just in time. When I am done looking for a second one to play!!!!!!!Look Away ..Look Away..Dixieland...Oh!..I wish I was in DIXIE!!!!...ConfederateSS..out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Robespierre__ on Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:19 am

betiko wrote:
Donelladan wrote:
tec805 wrote:
Hello tec805,

Your Premium Membership is going to expire within the next few days.

Expiry date: 2014-08-24 22:09:32

Please consider renewing early to enjoy the full Conquer Club experience uninterrupted! Renewal adds 12 months to your expiry date so you have nothing to lose by doing it today. Visit http://www.conquerclub.com and click on "Upgrade!".

Regards,
The Conquer Club


Make the UI work like it did, stop breaking BOB and Clickable Maps (both of which are heads above the built in mess you've created) and I'll have a reason to renew.

P.S. I know BOB and CM aren't updated any longer and aren't from CC, but they should be!


Funny I thought the new panel interface basically did everything BOB did. And that clickable maps are a part of CC since a long time.
What are you missing from BOB and Clickable maps that is not currently a part of CC ?


It s just worse. I just refuse to play with something not as good, I m just back from a mothly break and I see everything is bugging, I m just losing my will to play.


Beti, I am using BOB on Chrome with tampermonkey and it works exactly as well as it always did.

Look forward to beheading you in Random Cup.

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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Gillipig on Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:49 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
Gillipig wrote:9748

YES! AIN'T DONE YET BABY!!


I can confidently predict that the 'great decline' is over.

Long live theWHAM!


9739

looks like another slide is trending. i predict 9500 by next friday.


Pessimist.

Just because a few players have figuratively popped out to buy a pint of milk is no reason to panic. They'll be back...honestly you just would have sucked massively in the blitz.

Your optimistic foolishness knows no bounds does it? I feel very safe in my previous prediction that CC will continue to decline deep into autum this year, just like it did last year.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:00 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
WILLIAMS5232 wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
Gillipig wrote:9748

YES! AIN'T DONE YET BABY!!


I can confidently predict that the 'great decline' is over.

Long live theWHAM!


9739

looks like another slide is trending. i predict 9500 by next friday.


Pessimist.

Just because a few players have figuratively popped out to buy a pint of milk is no reason to panic. They'll be back...honestly you just would have sucked massively in the blitz.


i'm pretty pessimistic about it all. no denying that. i'm also realistic.
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Re: Is CC Declining?

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:13 am

ConfederateSS wrote:Yeah,just go to join a game page Duke....That now takes 5 years to scroll from page 1 to 20..Like I said in Q & A...The drop down box doesn't work anymore...If you just want to go to say page 34..One more reason to love the High Command.....I am getting ready to start playing just one game at a time.I'll finish just in time. When I am done looking for a second one to play!!!!!!!Look Away ..Look Away..Dixieland...Oh!..I wish I was in DIXIE!!!!...ConfederateSS..out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why bother with the Join a Game page? It should get better once the basic/advanced toggle is in, but still, why bother? I look for games with Game Finder. Just define what parameters you're looking for, and come up with a list that's rarely more than 2 or three pages. I check off Standard or Terminator, Automatic, Sequential, Escalating or Flat Rate, No Fog No Trench, and every number of players from 7 to 12, and I usually get a nice list of 2 or 3 pages, with plenty of variety but not too many to search.
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