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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby betiko on Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:40 pm

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Great-Ollie wrote:He is a great player for sure. His score will take a huge hit here soon though. He is finishing all his games he is winning in and dragging out all the games he is losing in. I do not consider what he is doing wrong as he is not deadbeating any of them, he just is slowing the pace trying to get a new personal best score. I have 5 games against him right now that are all looking my way for a win. I hope to see him break the 6000 mark before those losses start coming in. As far as i am concerned, he is a CC master for sure.


He probably wants to get the january gold for powerscore since freefalling will be not count i guess. That s cooler than a high score.


FF should count. They wont take that from him

*EDIT* damnit josko! lol


so i guess you asked the mods when you were second and FF got busted? lol.
Well that is absolute bullshit. they took it away from the crown last month because he kept all the winners and left all the losers with the right timing; that's not cheating. ff made an account abuse to stay on top of that boaed with his own account and he's getting away with it?

dgz345 wrote:i played a team tourney with him. our homemap was hive. fog but before we made our turns he already knew what all enemy colors where.
hes really utilizing the snaps. you other guys are just to lazy, he puts at least 5-10 min for every round


humm nope. almost every person who posted in here does it in competitive games.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby ChrisPond on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:54 pm

I thought it was normal to put 5-10 minutes into planning each and every turn? Do some people just begin the turn and then start deploying with no plan and go with the flow? Please tell me you have some kind of plan to win as well.

Some games require more than 10 minutes per turn, others less than 5.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby ChrisPond on Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:29 pm

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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby elfish_lad on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:16 am

owenshooter wrote:if you go in the games, you will see i announced that i am sitting his account until chinese new years... the solution is that simple... the black jesus rocks... the black jesus has spoken...-el Jesus negro


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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:30 am

I may not have always seen eye to eye with josko, but there is no denying his skill at the game. It kind of puts dice complaining into perspective, given how rarely he loses. About time I spent more time planning my moves, evidently! I'll be the first to admit I rush sometimes and it just leads to stupid mistakes.

Also, I noticed he is playing generals and brigadiers on their favourite maps and settings and still winning. Class act.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby loutil on Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:48 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:I may not have always seen eye to eye with josko, but there is no denying his skill at the game. It kind of puts dice complaining into perspective, given how rarely he loses. About time I spent more time planning my moves, evidently! I'll be the first to admit I rush sometimes and it just leads to stupid mistakes.

Also, I noticed he is playing generals and brigadiers on their favourite maps and settings and still winning. Class act.

That is not completely accurate as he declined my invites on certain maps that I prefer such as Kings II. If he knows the map then he usually accepts...
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:56 am

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iAmCaffeine wrote:I may not have always seen eye to eye with josko, but there is no denying his skill at the game. It kind of puts dice complaining into perspective, given how rarely he loses. About time I spent more time planning my moves, evidently! I'll be the first to admit I rush sometimes and it just leads to stupid mistakes.

Also, I noticed he is playing generals and brigadiers on their favourite maps and settings and still winning. Class act.

That is not completely accurate as he declined my invites on certain maps that I prefer such as Kings II. If he knows the map then he usually accepts...


I don't see a problem with that. My statement is no less accurate as I didn't specify that he accepted all games on high rank's specialist maps, just noted that he was playing some top players on their preferred maps and settings. Obviously he is familiar with the maps, but he's still playing the best of the best on those particular maps and winning.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby Armandolas on Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:15 am

Never played him, but not much to say about his quality and determination to win every game.His win rate and clan results speak for it.
I would expect a game against him in any map/setting to be a great fight .

But ive seen many people here criticizing thecrown and BENCLUB for their strategy to climb or improve scoreboard. Specially the accusations against benclub were ridiculous(inviting people to play private games in his good settings/maps)
Also someone here said he is doing something similar to thecrown to acheive a better performance(delaying games).

It does not really bother me, i found it legit. What bothers me is to see all the whinners and cryers making so much noise in some subjects and then in a similar stuff dont come here to protest like its the end of the world
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby JBlombier on Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:44 am

Thanks Armandolas. Just for telling the story of all people that can't be bothered to do all this effort themselves. I'm one of this category and have great admiration for their almost "professional" style of play. If I'd get paid for this game, I would play just like they do. That is, if I were blessed with all the strategic insight in the game and all.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby Leehar on Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:05 am

JBlombier wrote:That is, if I were blessed with all the strategic insight in the game and all.

To be frank, it's not always about strategical nous, and often more about doing the basics well, along with ramping down on mistakes!
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:41 pm

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JBlombier wrote:That is, if I were blessed with all the strategic insight in the game and all.

To be frank, it's not always about strategical nous, and often more about doing the basics well, along with ramping down on mistakes!


Agreed.

@Armondolas, this is obviously different as josko is not sending invites to people that have never played Labyrinth or the World Cup maps, nor is he dropping his score to get the maximum gain possible. He might delay a few games, big deal.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby loutil on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:17 pm

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JBlombier wrote:That is, if I were blessed with all the strategic insight in the game and all.

To be frank, it's not always about strategical nous, and often more about doing the basics well, along with ramping down on mistakes!

Josko's play is well beyond the basics and cutting down mistakes. He is tactically the best player I have faced and I do not think it is close.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby freakns on Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:22 pm

it is about strategy. and josko is god damn good in it. i just looked at first page of games he finished, and he hasnt lost a single one. thats bloody insane. i always said its impossible to be best at this game because there are so many different maps and different settings, but what he is doing is close to impossible. i tip my hat to him (and everybody who knows me, knows im not the guy who will be nice about anything, but this time is well deserved)
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby codeblue1018 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:33 pm

JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby Mr Changsha on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:43 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:
JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.


And who may that be...?

I'm sure josko is in my top 3...quite possibly number one on what he is achieving right now.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby NoSurvivors on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:45 pm

betiko wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:
betiko wrote:
Great-Ollie wrote:He is a great player for sure. His score will take a huge hit here soon though. He is finishing all his games he is winning in and dragging out all the games he is losing in. I do not consider what he is doing wrong as he is not deadbeating any of them, he just is slowing the pace trying to get a new personal best score. I have 5 games against him right now that are all looking my way for a win. I hope to see him break the 6000 mark before those losses start coming in. As far as i am concerned, he is a CC master for sure.


He probably wants to get the january gold for powerscore since freefalling will be not count i guess. That s cooler than a high score.


FF should count. They wont take that from him

*EDIT* damnit josko! lol


so i guess you asked the mods when you were second and FF got busted? lol.
Well that is absolute bullshit. they took it away from the crown last month because he kept all the winners and left all the losers with the right timing; that's not cheating. ff made an account abuse to stay on top of that boaed with his own account and he's getting away with it?



Where did I say I spoke to mods? Why would I do that? I just think it would be a stupid thing for the mods to take 2500 conquer points from him... Let josko surpass him.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby codeblue1018 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:46 pm

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JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.


And who may that be...?

I'm sure josko is in my top 3...quite possibly number one on what he is achieving right now.


You've been around since 2007 and you ask who? Poo, Scott-land, jork in. I particular order.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby Mr Changsha on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:03 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:
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JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.


And who may that be...?

I'm sure josko is in my top 3...quite possibly number one on what he is achieving right now.


You've been around since 2007 and you ask who? Poo, Scott-land, jork in. I particular order.


I had a feeling those names might pop up... ;)

I think Josko's achievement is comparable. I am most impressed by the fact that he playing very strong opposition, huge numbers of games and he has, just now, gone over 6000 points.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby owenshooter on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:23 pm

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You've been around since 2007 and you ask who? Poo, Scott-land, jork in. I particular order.

I had a feeling those names might pop up... ;)

I think Josko's achievement is comparable. I am most impressed by the fact that he playing very strong opposition, huge numbers of games and he has, just now, gone over 6000 points.

WHAT-EVA!!! Blitzaholic held the top spot for over a year. hands down he is: THE! BEST! EVER! the black jesus has ended the debate. the black jesus has spoken...-el Jesus negro
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Postby Foxglove on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:05 pm

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JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.


Out of curiosity, what metrics are you using to make such a determination?
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Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:16 pm

Josko wants to be the very best
Like no-one ever was
To beat them all is his real test
To win them is his cause
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby codeblue1018 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:23 pm

Foxglove wrote:
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JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.


Out of curiosity, what metrics are you using to make such a determination?


Well Foxy; first and foremost - the board maps were simpler back then, not as many, which made competition that much tougher as most people knew the majority of the maps. Josko plays many maps that require specific knowledge on the basic strategy, which many people do not possess yet decide to play anyway to learn. This is why the points on the scoreboard are much higher today than years past, although the names that I mentioned still maintained 4-6k points. As ive mentioned, Josko is a great player but unless you've been around aong time, there are players that IMO, were better; many would agree and this isn't taking away from his ability by no means. I'm sure your clanmate Bruceswar would agree as we all played together back then.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby codeblue1018 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:28 pm

owenshooter wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
codeblue1018 wrote:
You've been around since 2007 and you ask who? Poo, Scott-land, jork in. I particular order.

I had a feeling those names might pop up... ;)

I think Josko's achievement is comparable. I am most impressed by the fact that he playing very strong opposition, huge numbers of games and he has, just now, gone over 6000 points.

WHAT-EVA!!! Blitzaholic held the top spot for over a year. hands down he is: THE! BEST! EVER! the black jesus has ended the debate. the black jesus has spoken...-el Jesus negro


And as the white Jesus said, blitz was indeed dangerous and deserving of his accomplishments.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby freakns on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:31 pm

codeblue1018 wrote:
Foxglove wrote:
codeblue1018 wrote:
JBlombier wrote:He is quite the phenomenon. Probably the worthiest conqueror we've ever had.


Great player indeed; not near the worthiest conqueror by a long shot.


Out of curiosity, what metrics are you using to make such a determination?


Well Foxy; first and foremost - the board maps were simpler back then, not as many, which made competition that much tougher as most people knew the majority of the maps. Josko plays many maps that require specific knowledge on the basic strategy, which many people do not possess yet decide to play anyway to learn. This is why the points on the scoreboard are much higher today than years past, although the names that I mentioned still maintained 4-6k points. As ive mentioned, Josko is a great player but unless you've been around aong time, there are players that IMO, were better; many would agree and this isn't taking away from his ability by no means. I'm sure your clanmate Bruceswar would agree as we all played together back then.

im interested, so please enlighten me, what kind of superior strategy hits you need to know to play France doubles? outside of being able to think, of course.
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Re: Regarding Josko.ri

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:38 pm

I think code's point is that because there were less maps and they were more basic it was harder to win on such a consistent basis. However I would argue that he is playing very basic maps now and the only complicated ones are against top players on those maps, which I believe was kinda your argument, freak.
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