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KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
rhp 1 wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
anyone who knows me knows I don't bitch about dice other than the occasional "well, that was fucked up"... that said? Krapht has a point here... just because the dice program is fucked up for everyone, doesn't make it a good thing.. if there's something better (which Krapht would know better than I) get the damn thing...
KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
KraphtOne wrote:sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
KraphtOne wrote:hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... B
Dukasaur wrote:KraphtOne wrote:sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
Analysis of 23 v 1. Okay, so for your first 20 roll you were rolling 3 dice to 1, then the 21st roll you rolled 2 dice to 1, and then on your last roll you rolled 1 dice to 1...
universalchiro wrote:@degaston: whatever dude you win, you have it all figured out. You have out smarted even God.
loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
demonfork wrote:loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
I hate to break it to you but you're wrong! Losing 23v1 is statistically impossible.
Dukasaur wrote:Analysis of 23 v 1. Okay, so for your first 20 roll you were rolling 3 dice to 1, then the 21st roll you rolled 2 dice to 1, and then on your last roll you rolled 1 dice to 1.
Probability of losing any of the first 20 = 0.3403
Probability of losing on the 21st roll = 0.4213
Probability of losing on the last roll actually goes to the defender = 0.5833
Okay, so your aggregate probability of losing that is 0.3403^20 * 0.4213 * 0.5833, and taking the inverse of that to express it as odds we get 1 in 9,381,614,482
1 in 9 billion and change. Pretty rare result, I'll grant you that. Not "statistically impossible" obviously, but pretty rare.
loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
trevor33 wrote:loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
You can't compare flipping a 50/50 coin with rolling 3 dice against 1. You could roll 3 dice against 1 a billion times and not get 23 wins for the 1 in a row. Do you realize the math involved for that to happen?
23 50/50 cion flips i a row is almost 8.4 million to one. Meaning statistically you would have to flip the coin 8.4 million times before getting 23 in a row. Convert that into 3vs1 dice... impossible.
loutil wrote:trevor33 wrote:loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
You can't compare flipping a 50/50 coin with rolling 3 dice against 1. You could roll 3 dice against 1 a billion times and not get 23 wins for the 1 in a row. Do you realize the math involved for that to happen?
23 50/50 cion flips i a row is almost 8.4 million to one. Meaning statistically you would have to flip the coin 8.4 million times before getting 23 in a row. Convert that into 3vs1 dice... impossible.
People in this thread keep throwing around the word "impossible" which is just hyperbole. Low probability is not the same as impossible. 1 billion to 1 is not impossible. Further, I suspect that the OP may have been exaggerating his claim but cannot say for sure. I will accept the premise that the dice are extremely streak oriented on this site and I have seen more than a few extreme dice variances.
loutil wrote:I will accept the premise that the dice are extremely streak oriented on this site and I have seen more than a few extreme dice variances.
rhp 1 wrote:...
you're right... "impossible" is "hyperbole".. but when applied to the scenarios that Krapht is discussing in this thread, 23v1 is, for all intents and purposes, not possible... and for it to happen so many times (I know I've lost more than 1 20 something v 1 since playing on here) the odds for it happen once, multiplied by the fact that it's happened numerous times? sorry.. it's impossible...
universalchiro wrote:@degaston: whatever dude you win, you have it all figured out. You have out smarted even God.
loutil wrote:trevor33 wrote:loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
You can't compare flipping a 50/50 coin with rolling 3 dice against 1. You could roll 3 dice against 1 a billion times and not get 23 wins for the 1 in a row. Do you realize the math involved for that to happen?
23 50/50 cion flips i a row is almost 8.4 million to one. Meaning statistically you would have to flip the coin 8.4 million times before getting 23 in a row. Convert that into 3vs1 dice... impossible.
People in this thread keep throwing around the word "impossible" which is just hyperbole. Low probability is not the same as impossible. 1 billion to 1 is not impossible. Further, I suspect that the OP may have been exaggerating his claim but cannot say for sure. I will accept the premise that the dice are extremely streak oriented on this site and I have seen more than a few extreme dice variances.
demonfork wrote:Is losing Graham's number vs 1 impossible?
rhp 1 wrote:loutil wrote:trevor33 wrote:loutil wrote:KraphtOne wrote:I know there is the standard thread of idiots complaining...
but on the real though...
You ARE aware there are better algorithms out there for dice right?
sure over 20,000 games my dice will even out... but it is borderline retarded for you to tell me that i can possibly lose 23 vs 1...
hell we lose 15s+ vs 2s or 3s all the time (statistically impossible) and just chalk it up to bad luck... but seriously that should NEVER happen, and if it does it should be posted in forums on how insane it was... But we say "eh it happens, man i lose 15vs2 next game the other guy does the same thing"... two wrongs does not make it right... just makes it wrong both times...
c'mon boys let's fix this thing finally... hell my first game on here my buddy says to me he says "good site but the dice are crazy streaky"
yeah over 20,000 games my dice stats are even... but what that says to ME is that, i got hosed on a 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible) which means someone playing me will somehow lose 23 vs 1 (statistically impossible)...
equal bullshit does not mean the dice program works my friends
The dice clearly have some issues on this site. However, 23 v 1 is not "statistically impossible". It is Statistically unlikely but in a large enough sample it will eventually happen. If you flip a coin 1 million times you will likely get a few streaks of 23 heads or tails in a row.
You can't compare flipping a 50/50 coin with rolling 3 dice against 1. You could roll 3 dice against 1 a billion times and not get 23 wins for the 1 in a row. Do you realize the math involved for that to happen?
23 50/50 cion flips i a row is almost 8.4 million to one. Meaning statistically you would have to flip the coin 8.4 million times before getting 23 in a row. Convert that into 3vs1 dice... impossible.
People in this thread keep throwing around the word "impossible" which is just hyperbole. Low probability is not the same as impossible. 1 billion to 1 is not impossible. Further, I suspect that the OP may have been exaggerating his claim but cannot say for sure. I will accept the premise that the dice are extremely streak oriented on this site and I have seen more than a few extreme dice variances.
you're right... "impossible" is "hyperbole".. but when applied to the scenarios that Krapht is discussing in this thread, 23v1 is, for all intents and purposes, not possible... and for it to happen so many times (I know I've lost more than 1 20 something v 1 since playing on here) the odds for it happen once, multiplied by the fact that it's happened numerous times? sorry.. it's impossible...
demonfork wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:demonfork wrote:Is losing Graham's number vs 1 impossible?
Yes.
What is the smallest number vs 1 that would be impossible to lose?
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