Conquer Club

universalchiro wrote:Come for the games, stay for the forums. Enjoy the discussions with players around the world in Off Topic forum. Ooops, scratch that, the forum is controlled by a band of derailers. Just come for the games (hope that's enough to increase member count).

BigBallinStalin wrote:

universalchiro wrote:Come for the games, stay for the forums. Enjoy the discussions with players around the world in Off Topic forum. Ooops, scratch that, the forum is controlled by a band of derailers. Just come for the games (hope that's enough to increase member count).

I give this derail a 3/10.

edit: 8/10 for catching TGD. Nice baiting, UC!

thegreekdog wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

universalchiro wrote:Come for the games, stay for the forums. Enjoy the discussions with players around the world in Off Topic forum. Ooops, scratch that, the forum is controlled by a band of derailers. Just come for the games (hope that's enough to increase member count).

I give this derail a 3/10.

edit: 8/10 for catching TGD. Nice baiting, UC!

Yeah, my post took too much work for the potential payoff.

BoganGod wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

universalchiro wrote:Come for the games, stay for the forums. Enjoy the discussions with players around the world in Off Topic forum. Ooops, scratch that, the forum is controlled by a band of derailers. Just come for the games (hope that's enough to increase member count).

I give this derail a 3/10.

edit: 8/10 for catching TGD. Nice baiting, UC!

Yeah, my post took too much work for the potential payoff.

I've given up on the off topics forum, due in main part to UC and his/her/its constant one issue repetitive drum thumping.

Would it be possible to get a moderator code of conduct published. Including little things like
- owning your actions, lock a thread own the lock
- explaining(including referring back to the rules and moderator guidelines) your lock, post delete or other interfering.
- Clear acknowledgement that the rules also apply to mods/admin
- A clear disciplinary list for mods, including mods being stepped down for set periods of time or permanently for infractions. No more of this business as usual with cheaters, and having cheater's punitive actions against other players stand.

Don't think any of the above are inflammatory or even difficult to implement. Why has this not been done in the past?

BoganGod wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

BigBallinStalin wrote:

universalchiro wrote:Come for the games, stay for the forums. Enjoy the discussions with players around the world in Off Topic forum. Ooops, scratch that, the forum is controlled by a band of derailers. Just come for the games (hope that's enough to increase member count).

I give this derail a 3/10.

edit: 8/10 for catching TGD. Nice baiting, UC!

Yeah, my post took too much work for the potential payoff.

I've given up on the off topics forum, due in main part to UC and his/her/its constant one issue repetitive drum thumping.

Would it be possible to get a moderator code of conduct published. Including little things like
- owning your actions, lock a thread own the lock
- explaining(including referring back to the rules and moderator guidelines) your lock, post delete or other interfering.
- Clear acknowledgement that the rules also apply to mods/admin
- A clear disciplinary list for mods, including mods being stepped down for set periods of time or permanently for infractions. No more of this business as usual with cheaters, and having cheater's punitive actions against other players stand.

Don't think any of the above are inflammatory or even difficult to implement. Why has this not been done in the past?

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

AndyDufresne wrote:

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

I think the procedures Mets is referring to did mention that a reason should accompany a lock, etc. But maybe the procedures didn't -- I can't recall the fine details anymore.

--Andy

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

Yes, it is a general rule that moderators are supposed to post with a reason when they lock a thread. However, in some cases where it is patently obvious why a thread is being locked (like an account spammer, etc.) then we may not bother.

DoomYoshi wrote:The thread on forum PC got me wondering - we all know that moderators need to be accountable for their actions, but how is this balance best served.
There are a few main groups that mods need to be accountable to: the admins, the users, the other mods and the monkeys.

How is the balance struck?
If the mods were only accountable to the admins, it wouldn't really be "community-managed". If the mods were only accountable to the users, there could be a problem of 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner.

Mods being accountable to each other is important. At the end of the day, Night Strike and dako (random names) need to be able to both say: "I'm on Team CC, and proud of it".

All mods have to be ordained ministers to the word of the monkey god.

Being accountable to the admins is probably the easiest check - if blakebowling thinks I don't represent Team CC, I'm gone, simple as that.
Being accountable to other mods is also pretty easy. We have well-defined responsibilities, and where they do overlap, we are able to discuss any differences. This accountability goes on behind the scenes.

How do you think accountability to users a)has been previously established b)should be established?

Or do you think it doesn't matter that much?

BoganGod wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

Yes, it is a general rule that moderators are supposed to post with a reason when they lock a thread. However, in some cases where it is patently obvious why a thread is being locked (like an account spammer, etc.) then we may not bother.

So based on the above statement. A lot of you kiddies have gone rogue on occasion.

BoganGod wrote:let me see rhp. Obvious locks, yes they exist. There have also on more than a few occasions been anonymous locks for no immediately obvious reason. Knowing that your deliberately obtuse stance on some things is just to send the rather literal kiddies with OCD crazy I won't explain the obvious..... I know, that you know, that I know you know what I was talking about. Calling unprofessional/sloppy moderating going rogue is my way of maintaining my reputation for exaggeration.

Do you know that doom yoshi locked a thread where I called him gullible

DoomYoshi wrote:LOL @ rhp... I have never locked a thread, you got tricked by BG!

BoganGod wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

Yes, it is a general rule that moderators are supposed to post with a reason when they lock a thread. However, in some cases where it is patently obvious why a thread is being locked (like an account spammer, etc.) then we may not bother.

So based on the above statement. A lot of you kiddies have gone rogue on occasion.

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

Yes, it is a general rule that moderators are supposed to post with a reason when they lock a thread. However, in some cases where it is patently obvious why a thread is being locked (like an account spammer, etc.) then we may not bother.

So based on the above statement. A lot of you kiddies have gone rogue on occasion.

I've seen instances where protocol was not followed, but I think they are the exception and not the rule. If you catch such an instance, please feel free to contact a mod and ask them to post a reason why. We have access to the logs so we know who locked what.

The Voice wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:

BoganGod wrote:So we have no way of knowing whether the rudeness and/or lack of accountability is within the guidelines or the actions of disgruntled arseholes who have been driven mad by this community. Mets, in your role of dropping hints/vague utterances. Does the illusive and secret mod responsibilities list include - Own/sign each thread lock and/or edit you make.

Yes, it is a general rule that moderators are supposed to post with a reason when they lock a thread. However, in some cases where it is patently obvious why a thread is being locked (like an account spammer, etc.) then we may not bother.

So based on the above statement. A lot of you kiddies have gone rogue on occasion.

I've seen instances where protocol was not followed, but I think they are the exception and not the rule. If you catch such an instance, please feel free to contact a mod and ask them to post a reason why. We have access to the logs so we know who locked what.

Better yet, why don't they just post the question in the thread?

BoganGod wrote:Would it be possible to get a moderator code of conduct published. Including little things like
- owning your actions, lock a thread own the lock
- explaining(including referring back to the rules and moderator guidelines) your lock, post delete or other interfering.
- Clear acknowledgement that the rules also apply to mods/admin
- A clear disciplinary list for mods, including mods being stepped down for set periods of time or permanently for infractions. No more of this business as usual with cheaters, and having cheater's punitive actions against other players stand.

Don't think any of the above are inflammatory or even difficult to implement. Why has this not been done in the past?

DoomYoshi wrote: GD has no traffic because of venereal diseases like you. It's here because that's where it belongs.