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deathcomesrippin wrote: The unofficial term for the particular problem is "Ranching". Simply speaking, it is the case of someone abusing the game by purposefully inviting people who have no experience with certain settings to guarantee a win.
iAmCaffeine wrote:If one assumes stripers and below are not decent players, can one not therefore assume they wouldn't have the knowledge to know that they're being farmed and blindly accept?
deathcomesrippin wrote:Ranching? Is this what you are talking about?deathcomesrippin wrote: The unofficial term for the particular problem is "Ranching". Simply speaking, it is the case of someone abusing the game by purposefully inviting people who have no experience with certain settings to guarantee a win.
It is extremely tough to prove, since you essentially need to either reach out to all the low ranks or actually witness the invites on the game screen. In certain cases it has been easier, such as the case above. For the most part, unless a group of low ranking players approach us or someone points out it is happening, then it can't be caught.
AladdinSane wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:If one assumes stripers and below are not decent players, can one not therefore assume they wouldn't have the knowledge to know that they're being farmed and blindly accept?
It's like anything else - if they blindly accept something they don't understand, they deserve what is coming to them: getting fleeced by the Wolves of CC Street. I guess if real money is involved the law needs to protect the sheep from the wolves, but it doesn't really matter here since it is all pretend points and ranks.
That said, if the practice is allowed to flourish we can always wonder if a high-ranked player got his score by engaging in such nefaious practices and isn't, perhaps, as good as his rank indicates. High-ranked players, therefore, have an incentive to put a stop to this.
Anyway, I guess there is a risk to the farmer in that he stands to lose big points if things don't go his way, so perhaps by accepting this risk he "pays" for his farming ("ranching" for Texans).
rhp 1 wrote:I will never understand why this is even issue. Its a game guys
BigBallinStalin wrote:rhp 1 wrote:I will never understand why this is even issue. Its a game guys
Yeah, but points are being gained easily by some people! And I'm not getting those points!!!
deathcomesrippin wrote:You could always just limit invites to private games, that way you can tell if someone is attempting to farm the lower ranks.
iAmCaffeine wrote:Can anyone provide a solid argument as to why this isn't classified as farming? Someone with 2000+ points creates a large amount of 1v1 or Polymorphic games and invites anyone from a Cook to Sergeant 1st Class, but it isn't considered farming simply because they have the choice of accepting the invite.
I don't find that argument satisfactory in the slightest. For any decent player it is actually hard to fall down to being a striper, or below. On that basis, one can assume that a decent player would have the knowledge to join a game they have randomly been invited to on a complicated map with complicated settings. If one assumes stripers and below are not decent players, can one not therefore assume they wouldn't have the knowledge to know that they're being farmed and blindly accept?
iAmCaffeine wrote:Or make a rank difference restriction for opposition invites.
IcePack wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:Or make a rank difference restriction for opposition invites.
We pay to be able to invite people. While I play competitively (clans and tournaments) I also play pick up games with RL friends who are not as heavily into / serious and lower ranked. The solution shouldn't restrict people's abilities to play w RL friends on a feature we pay to have.
iAmCaffeine wrote:IcePack wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:Or make a rank difference restriction for opposition invites.
We pay to be able to invite people. While I play competitively (clans and tournaments) I also play pick up games with RL friends who are not as heavily into / serious and lower ranked. The solution shouldn't restrict people's abilities to play w RL friends on a feature we pay to have.
So paying to abuse a system is okay?
What if there was a rank restriction but having a player on your friend list disregarded said restriction?
iAmCaffeine wrote:What if there was a rank restriction but having a player on your friend list disregarded said restriction?
Metsfanmax wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:What if there was a rank restriction but having a player on your friend list disregarded said restriction?
Yes, that is one requirement for such a system, so that you can play with your RL friends.
So paying to abuse a system is ok?
IcePack wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:What if there was a rank restriction but having a player on your friend list disregarded said restriction?
Yes, that is one requirement for such a system, so that you can play with your RL friends.
Except it doesn't stop someone from temp add to friend list, invite, then drop.
Metsfanmax wrote:IcePack wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:What if there was a rank restriction but having a player on your friend list disregarded said restriction?
Yes, that is one requirement for such a system, so that you can play with your RL friends.
Except it doesn't stop someone from temp add to friend list, invite, then drop.
No, it works in reverse. You can only be invited to a game by someone you have marked as a friend.
IcePack wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:iAmCaffeine wrote:What if there was a rank restriction but having a player on your friend list disregarded said restriction?
Yes, that is one requirement for such a system, so that you can play with your RL friends.
Except it doesn't stop someone from temp add to friend list, invite, then drop.So paying to abuse a system is ok?
Where did I say that? I said any solution needs to not interfere with paying customers few privs.
KraphtOne wrote:oh they been letting people johnny rocket their way to high win % and high medal stats for years, why change it now...
as long as you sprinkle in some higher ranked games via tournaments you can join or invite whatever new recruits or shitty players you want...
http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=find&submit=Search&p1=JOHNNYROCKET24&so=D
betiko wrote:How about we just boooo ranchers? No one takes them seriously anyway.
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