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What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment option

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:14 pm
by berlin1945
Mistakes in troop deployment happen all the time. It would be nice if you could redo your deployment. When they made conquer club, why wasn't this included?

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:22 pm
by Nut Shot Scott
Just a guess here. Once the troops are placed, they become part of the board. In order to pull them back, it would have to differentiate the exact amount dropped on a specific territory and allow only that amount from that specific spot to be withdrawn. Probably a coding nightmare. Now, an "are you sure?" button would be nice. Then again, who doesn't love winning a game because your opponent fcked up a drop???

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:23 pm
by berlin1945
It's a coding nightmare so you just let the game be a nightmare to play? That's really gonna keep your players from leaving!

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:25 pm
by ConfederateSS
berlin1945 wrote:Mistakes in troop deployment happen all the time. It would be nice if you could redo your deployment. When they made conquer club, why wasn't this included?

....Don't make them...When you do...Try and make up for them...You don't get a do over on the battlefield...
-----In real wars....Like Pearl Harbor...and Midway...The Japanese....made mistakes... Hesitated....At Pearl they didn't send in the next wave...to smash the oil...Which came back to kill them.....At Midway...when they learned of our carriers....They had all their attack planes set up with bombs...to smash Midway....Instead of just attacking our carriers with bombs...they waited to refit their planes with torpedoes....We caught them with their pants down.....I mean the Arizona was destroyed by a bomb...at Pearl...Later they used Kamakzies....So if I were making the move of the Japanese...I would of just let the bombs go...and save the 40mins...It took to switch weapons....
.......So no we do not need do overs...It ads mistakes,human nature....to the battle... :D :D :D O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:26 pm
by berlin1945
ConfederateSS wrote:
berlin1945 wrote:Mistakes in troop deployment happen all the time. It would be nice if you could redo your deployment. When they made conquer club, why wasn't this included?

....Don't make them...When you do...Try and make up for them...You don't get a do over on the battlefield...
-----In real wars....Like Pearl Harbor...and Midway...The Japanese....made mistakes... Hesitated....At Pearl they didn't send in the next wave...to smash the oil...Which came back to kill them.....At Midway...when they learned of our carriers....They had all their attack planes set up with bombs...to smash Midway....Instead of just attacking our carriers with bombs...they waited to refit their planes with torpedoes....We caught them with their pants down.....I mean the Arizona was destroyed by a bomb...at Pearl...Later they used Kamakzies....So if I were making the move of the Japanese...I would of just let the bombs go...and save the 40mins...It took to switch weapons....
.......So no we do not need do overs...It ads mistakes,human nature....to the battle... :D :D :D O:) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)


Not a perfect analogy. Of course you can't take back strategies you've committed to. But troops you oopsed in deploying? This is about a crap website, not the fates of warfare. The human nature factor should be in your strategies, not clumsiness that the website won't let you remedy. Some people such as yourself take it as realism. I just take it as frustration. I'm only suggesting something that would help conquer club retain members.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:41 pm
by Nut Shot Scott
berlin1945 wrote:It's a coding nightmare so you just let the game be a nightmare to play? That's really gonna keep your players from leaving!


Lol a "nightmare to play" because you screw up occasionally? Of all the things to bitch about, this is way down the list.

I would challenge you to find one single person who left the site because they made a mistake dropping troops every once in awhile and couldn't hit an undo button. I mean, you've stayed for almost 10 years under threat of this hardship. Come on. Hyperbole much?

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:49 pm
by berlin1945
Nut Shot Scott wrote:
berlin1945 wrote:It's a coding nightmare so you just let the game be a nightmare to play? That's really gonna keep your players from leaving!


Lol a "nightmare to play" because you screw up occasionally? Of all the things to bitch about, this is way down the list.

I would challenge you to find one single person who left the site because they made a mistake dropping troops every once in awhile and couldn't hit an undo button. I mean, you've stayed for almost 10 years under threat of this hardship. Come on. Hyperbole much?


That's where you're wrong, kiddo. I have only played games for 3 of those 7 years. My interest died once, and it died again this year.

But you're right. It is is a minor nitpick. But it is consistent with everything else. NO movement to overhaul the site. NO interest in making the gameplay better. The site feels dead to me, so I have stopped playing.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:02 pm
by BabySasuke
there is a button you can turn on to ask if youre sure

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:07 pm
by Nut Shot Scott
berlin1945 wrote:
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. I have only played games for 3 of those 7 years. My interest died once, and it died again this year.

But you're right. It is is a minor nitpick. But it is consistent with everything else. NO movement to overhaul the site. NO interest in making the gameplay better. The site feels dead to me, so I have stopped playing.


On this we agree. I find myself genuinely confused as to what the goal here is. There doesnt appear to be any emphasis on generating revenue, bringing in and retaining new customers or generally building off of what is here. It can't generate more than, like, I dunno, $40k per year? in revenue and falling? Oh well, at least it's not Mjr Command :lol:

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:07 pm
by Nut Shot Scott
MyNameIsJack wrote:there is a button you can turn on to ask if youre sure


Lmao there is? Well there you go. My suggestion has already been implemented. Super effective.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:29 pm
by TeeGee
you can't recall troops, but you can have each and every movement double checked in settings

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Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:07 am
by berlin1945
Nut Shot Scott wrote:
berlin1945 wrote:
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. I have only played games for 3 of those 7 years. My interest died once, and it died again this year.

But you're right. It is is a minor nitpick. But it is consistent with everything else. NO movement to overhaul the site. NO interest in making the gameplay better. The site feels dead to me, so I have stopped playing.


On this we agree. I find myself genuinely confused as to what the goal here is. There doesnt appear to be any emphasis on generating revenue, bringing in and retaining new customers or generally building off of what is here. It can't generate more than, like, I dunno, $40k per year? in revenue and falling? Oh well, at least it's not Mjr Command :lol:


I don't know. Maybe it's a tax shelter, or a money-laundering outfit. Cuz it sure isn't about us players :(

What's mjr command?

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:45 am
by Dukasaur
berlin1945 wrote:Mistakes in troop deployment happen all the time. It would be nice if you could redo your deployment. When they made conquer club, why wasn't this included?

In your Settings, there is a setting for Confirm "Deploy Yes/No". The default is No, but you can change it to yes. Doesn't let you take back a deploy, but at least it makes you confirm each one so that you can't screw up with a single misclick.

Edit: I see others are ahead of me. But yes, if you often make mistakes in deploy, might want to set it to Yes.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:10 am
by DBandit70
no way, it would ruin freestyle games...

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:57 am
by Silly Knig-it
If you are prone to misclicks as I am, you should turn on all the slow me down features as I have. It would kill you in speed freestyle but I don't play those for that reason. As was mentioned above, I have all the "Are you sure?" boxes turned on for me.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:00 am
by mrswdk
TeeGee wrote:you can't recall troops, but you can have each and every movement double checked in settings

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I wish I had known about this at any point in the last like 6-7 years I've been playing. Misdropping is the most fking annoying thing ever.

But wait, I have to turn on that weird visual panel thing to use this setting?

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:57 am
by ZaBeast
I would also suggest not typing out the number of troops you want to drop (but selecting with the mouse), with firefox at least (but not on chrome afaik) you sometimes fort/drop the maximum possible even if that's not what you selected

(filed a bug report but nothing happened viewtopic.php?f=506&t=233608#p5157924)

berlin1945 wrote:What's mjr command?

Major command, another risk-playing site
mrswdk wrote:But wait, I have to turn on that weird visual panel thing to use this setting?

yes

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:34 pm
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:
TeeGee wrote:you can't recall troops, but you can have each and every movement double checked in settings

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I wish I had known about this at any point in the last like 6-7 years I've been playing. Misdropping is the most fking annoying thing ever.

But wait, I have to turn on that weird visual panel thing to use this setting?


I don't think so. I think these settings are independent of panels.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:47 pm
by DoomYoshi
The title of this song reminds me of Tevye... "would it ruin some master plan, if I were a richer man?"

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:25 pm
by mookiemcgee
Can we have an undo unsuccessful attacks button too? I'd also like an undo losses button, and a perfect dice next roll button please

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:44 pm
by berlin1945
mookiemcgee wrote:Can we have an undo unsuccessful attacks button too? I'd also like an undo losses button, and a perfect dice next roll button please


Go ahead. Deflect with humor how CRAP this site is. Too bad the game will remain garbage.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:52 pm
by berlin1945
Silly Knig-it wrote:If you are prone to misclicks as I am, you should turn on all the slow me down features as I have. It would kill you in speed freestyle but I don't play those for that reason. As was mentioned above, I have all the "Are you sure?" boxes turned on for me.


Casuals aren't gonna go into some menu to put on a fix that should be there from the start. How will they even know it exists, much less where to look? Meanwhile they're making mistakes because of the site, getting frustrated, and leaving.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:54 pm
by berlin1945
DBandit70 wrote:no way, it would ruin freestyle games...


Of course there could be exceptions.

Re: What would be so wrong about an undo troop deployment op

PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:21 pm
by mookiemcgee
berlin1945 wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:Can we have an undo unsuccessful attacks button too? I'd also like an undo losses button, and a perfect dice next roll button please


Go ahead. Deflect with humor how CRAP this site is. Too bad the game will remain garbage.



Does life have an undo button? Is there one in war?

There is already a 'warning/are you sure' screen you can turn on, at some point you are just going to have to take responsibility for your mistakes rather than deflecting the blame onto the game/platform.