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skillfusniper33 wrote:ok, I won't be able to get to this for a few days. I am leaving for school tomorrow (at 3 AM) and will arrive Wednesday. I should get something in thursday hopefully.
Djfireside wrote:Sorry for missing the last day, I had done my research just didnt realize the day ended so fast. Win this town
StubbsKVM wrote:I suppose it's needless for me to say I watched Dj, and sniper visited him?
I'll see what I can do about bringing it all together in one post, newguy.
Likely when I have access to a pc.
Sniper wrote:Last night I used my ability on this statement Stubbs made....
StubbsKVM wrote:I am Detective Kima Greggs, Town Watcher.
He is lying about his role. That being said, Vote Stubbs
Sniper wrote:First of all you are letting a mafia member get into your head. I never said I would, lynx said I should. I have been in belief for most of the game that the PGO was not a lie.
Also it would be extremely easy for you to be planning this out stubbs, since you knew lynx's role. Jonty "cleared" you on day 3, and with a God Father still out there he would have come up innocent to any investigations by Jonty.
Sniper wrote:I like the case on lynx, and he does seem to be really pushing everyone in the direction he wants. His claim seems kinda weird, since my understanding of the character is that he was more out for himself rather than the team. And he seems to be going behind several peoples back. I think he could be using the same name, but just changing his alignment, and role. Being completely bulletproof seems off for a cop themed show. I would have believed an X-shot since all cops wear a pullet proof vest for the raids.
I think he is also overreacting about the PGO role a bit. I know it is a very safe claim for mafia, but everyone else has let it go. Although this could be a nice play to draw distance between them, so New Guy can float to the end of the game.
Vote Lynx
I am also worried about DJ's role since he posted all of his actions after people posted theirs. He also targeted the same person who is dead, and didn't get targeted by anyone else the first 2 nights. This is a complex role, and if he is mafia, it is a very nice escape while providing a lot of details about who visited each person with information already provided.
Djfireside wrote:My inital thought doesnt seem to be playing well with me now. Overall I think that Sniper is mafia based on the role and since a Ninja popped up a watcher would be a affulent role to follow. Since under most circumstances whenever there is a ninja there is a watcher but mafia would have known this as well and could have run it as a FC. This gets clouded by some of the other roles that we had, wire tap, informant, tracker but in the end I could see a watcher as well and was all set on this but one of the things holding me back was the votes from last day. Sniper could have easily sealed NG's fate instead of waiting on me putting the game to 3v2 and while I tend to believe their Role less, I am torn once again as to which one it is.
Sniper wrote:And on my role, I have asked about my role, and visiting, I do not visit the players statement who I target.
StubbsKVM wrote:Okay NewGuy, this is all I've got. But I think it should be enough to prove he's the last mafia.
I'll go ahead and vote, so you'll be holding the hammer.
vote Sniper
new guy1 wrote:StubbsKVM wrote:Okay NewGuy, this is all I've got. But I think it should be enough to prove he's the last mafia.
I'll go ahead and vote, so you'll be holding the hammer.
vote Sniper
Very good case. Putting those points in front of me, though I have my questions on them, has cleared up your case on him. Although I do have withdrawals about a couple points, Ill let you guys banter back and forth and then I will make my final round ups when you two are content with your cases. I will apologize in advance to the town if I make the wrong move... I dislike being the last standing town lol.
StubbsKVM wrote:It's all a game in the end though. No actual lives depend on it
StubbsKVM wrote:I suppose it's needless for me to say I watched Dj, and sniper visited him?
I'll see what I can do about bringing it all together in one post, newguy.
Likely when I have access to a pc.
StubbsKVM wrote:Don't you find it the least suspicious that sniper bought your claim all this time when he had the ability to check it night 1?
And that he now conveniently used it on me, after doubting DJ yesterday?
StubbsKVM wrote:new guy1 wrote:StubbsKVM wrote:Don't you find it the least suspicious that sniper bought your claim all this time when he had the ability to check it night 1?
And that he now conveniently used it on me, after doubting DJ yesterday?
If sniper trusts what I claimed, then why would he look into me? Especially when doing so could get himself killed, since I dont remember the mod ever saying yes or no to the "does he get killed if he uses his action on me". I think he was intelligent to wait until the last day to use his action because it does allow him to narrow the pool down. However, if it is a fake claim, then he has outsmarted me. The idea that he doubted DJ yesterday and now used it on you just tells me he decided last minute sending his action in that he thought you were scummier. Im at a stalemate.
Sniper said he didn't visit the target he used his power on.
No visit= no death?
If Sniper had used his power night 1, you would have been confirmed town throughout the entire game, and spiesr wouldn't have died proving it. It was worth checking, whether he believed it or not.
skillfusniper33 wrote:StubbsKVM wrote:My reason for the rolecop: I had the feeling they knew Saf was the busdriver. So I could only think of a rolecop to explain this. I still wonder how they knew. Maybe they just got lucky?
Watching Saf: I watched him because I knew Jonty would never die if he was around. So I was going to keep watching him until he died, so I could nail mafia. When he died, and I got no result, I was so frustrated I wanted to claim, just to clear it up. I even asked if it would be a good idea to claim at one point, and after some advice, I decided not to.
My reason for voting ghostly, because we were close to lynching him the day before, and he was still on top of my scum list.
I had no clue safari was a bus driver. I had a feeling he had some power role, but more like a body guard or a bulletproof.
If you say you can't come up with a plan to fake all your night actions then how did you come to this conclusion? It is pretty advanced for not understanding some of the actions.
StubbsKVM wrote:Actually that doesn't really matter.
I watched sniper.
And I'm not lying.
So he's scum.
I don't really see Why he would check my claim, after saying he was going to check new guy's.
As I said, I did not get a result yet.
StubbsKVM wrote:On Night 1, I watched Lynx: No result
On Night 2, I watched Jonty: Safariguy(so I knew he was busdriver then)
On Night 3, I watched Safariguy: No Result
On Night 4, I watched Jonty: No Result
On Night 5, I watched Skill: No Result
On Night 6, I watched DJ: skill
skillfusniper33 wrote:lynx_ wrote:skillfusniper33 wrote:I like the case on lynx, and he does seem to be really pushing everyone in the direction he wants.
What does the second part mean? Are you referring to me scum-hunting and trying my best to build a solid case on someone?
Also, have new guy and ghostly ever been scum together? If so, could someone link me please?
No, you seem to be able to manipulate everyone to do what you want, and when we can't you over-react on why we are wrong, not you. You have done it several times in this game.new guy1 wrote:After doing research on various wiki's for everyone's roles, everyone else's role clears as far as flavor. Going off of least perfect fit as far as flavor flavor, skillful. While his character does authorize a wire tap which would be an option for a 1-shot lie detector, it is the only one that does not fit exactly... Besides that, I have no leads for tomorrow.
It would be hard for a mod to create a game where each character fits perfectly. And on my role, I have asked about my role, and visiting, I do not visit the players statement who I target.
new guy1 wrote:He never lied though. Last I checked hes stuck with that story the whole time so why doubt its the truth? I am playing on my phone as I forgot my computer at home and wont have it the whole weekend. Right now stubbs, I wouldnt be comfortable with the case. Sniper is combatting all your points. Ill see if I can come back with my decision, but I hate hate hate playing on my phone plus I have to at least read my other games.
new guy1 wrote:He never lied though. Last I checked hes stuck with that story the whole time so why doubt its the truth? I am playing on my phone as I forgot my computer at home and wont have it the whole weekend. Right now stubbs, I wouldnt be comfortable with the case. Sniper is combatting all your points. Ill see if I can come back with my decision, but I hate hate hate playing on my phone plus I have to at least read my other games.
StubbsKVM wrote:new guy1 wrote:He never lied though. Last I checked hes stuck with that story the whole time so why doubt its the truth? I am playing on my phone as I forgot my computer at home and wont have it the whole weekend. Right now stubbs, I wouldnt be comfortable with the case. Sniper is combatting all your points. Ill see if I can come back with my decision, but I hate hate hate playing on my phone plus I have to at least read my other games.
Are you serious? He just said I made up the part about visiting. Which he clearly said earlier.
Now I just get the feeling you don't want to believe me.
My case is strong enough. I am confident about that and I see no reason to stall this. I have pointed you at the evidence. If you don't want to see it, there is nothing I can do about it. I'm not going to put more time into this is you can't even see that lie.
Tell me again how you take a lie detector test without visiting your target.
StubbsKVM wrote:new guy1 wrote:He never lied though. Last I checked hes stuck with that story the whole time so why doubt its the truth? I am playing on my phone as I forgot my computer at home and wont have it the whole weekend. Right now stubbs, I wouldnt be comfortable with the case. Sniper is combatting all your points. Ill see if I can come back with my decision, but I hate hate hate playing on my phone plus I have to at least read my other games.
Are you serious? He just said I made up the part about visiting. Which he clearly said earlier.
Now I just get the feeling you don't want to believe me.
My case is strong enough. I am confident about that and I see no reason to stall this. I have pointed you at the evidence. If you don't want to see it, there is nothing I can do about it. I'm not going to put more time into this is you can't even see that lie.
Tell me again how you take a lie detector test without visiting your target.
StubbsKVM wrote:To be honest, Dj bothers me too. Why didn't he use his power on Jonty night 2, keeps going through my head.
Dj-ghostly scumteam is most likely for me atm.
StubbsKVM wrote:Dj and ghostly are either both scum or both town. I'm more inclined to believe town after recent events.
The thing that's still bothering me the most are my own night actions. Why did I not get results?? It just doesn't make sense to me.
Spiesr's actions have also been confirmed.
That leaves sniper, lynx and new guy.
All of who's actions are impossible to verify until dead.
unvote
StubbsKVM wrote:I also want to point out that my role can easily be verified in the upcoming night by tracker and informant, if they're real.
If we really want to, we could ask ghostly to track me and say who I watched.
skillfusniper33 wrote:I like the case on lynx, and he does seem to be really pushing everyone in the direction he wants. His claim seems kinda weird, since my understanding of the character is that he was more out for himself rather than the team. And he seems to be going behind several peoples back. I think he could be using the same name, but just changing his alignment, and role. Being completely bulletproof seems off for a cop themed show. I would have believed an X-shot since all cops wear a pullet proof vest for the raids.
I think he is also overreacting about the PGO role a bit. I know it is a very safe claim for mafia, but everyone else has let it go. Although this could be a nice play to draw distance between them, so New Guy can float to the end of the game.
Vote Lynx
I am also worried about DJ's role since he posted all of his actions after people posted theirs. He also targeted the same person who is dead, and didn't get targeted by anyone else the first 2 nights. This is a complex role, and if he is mafia, it is a very nice escape while providing a lot of details about who visited each person with information already provided.
This is the first thing I found odd. Here you try to question why Dj wouldnt use his action on jonty and yet now you question why he didnt use it on me Night 1.
Here you say dj and ghost are either both town or both scum. Ghost was town, so that leaves you as scum, right? Your words, not mine
Ghostly ended up dead. Now either dj killed him or you, but youre the one who suggested it be done. From my perspective, because of the above reference, I am inclined to believe this was for brownie points.
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