epic pie wrote:Virus, I knew that the roleblocker was Mafia. Frankly, anyone who was confused by that gets a slight FOS in my opinion (careful rule reading is very important).
I don't really have any major opinions, only that Colton is a little vague and self-contradicting in his rules, and mtam is frenetic. TWO's inactivity is understandable. greg is kind of strange, I know he claimed, but I don't feel that negates his prior behavior fully.
I believe that I have a vote going for mtam, and no real reason to change it.
Ok friends this has been a fun game and I think I have it figured out. There have been two important events in this game. One was the Role Blocker incident and how people responded to it. The second was when Pie claimed he was the Doc and there was confusion about his lynch, which I will get to.
First
vote TWO A lot can be learned when someone flips mafia. When one reads back you know they are mafia trying to act Town. You read how they spread suspicion but they may also unknowingly incriminate their scum buddies. Epic Pie in the above quote criticizes everyone but gives TwO a free pass. I recognize I am not mentioned so if you want to think I am the pool of scum feel free. We can mislynch tonite and still win.
Now the meat and potatoes of what I am pointing starts out on page 13 and goes till Epic Pies Lynch. I also want to shed light on a post gregwolf posted that makes a ton of sense.
okay virus i like your thinking here, except you got some facts wrong, the only ones to claim that they didn't know that the roleblocker was mafia was Virus, TWO, tam, and gregwolf,
james is the one who pointed out that the roleblocker was mafia,
epic said he knew that the roleblocker was mafia,
IB has never said yes or no
using logic and occams razor, i'll try to narrow down the suspect pool,
lets see 7 players, 2 mafia and 5 town
1. JamesKer1
2. virus90
3. epic pie
4. Iron Butterfly
5. The Weird One
6. mtamburini
7. gregwolf121
known townies
gregwolf121-town cop,
that leaves 6, 2 mafia and 4 town
1. JamesKer1
2. virus90
3. epic pie
4. Iron Butterfly
5. The Weird One
6. mtamburini
now we move into speculation
the following i believe to be town
jamesKer1, because he pointed out that the roleblocker was mafia, i highly doubt that mafia would do so, as it would serve mafia best to keep the town guessing
mtamburini, becuase he asked for the roleblocker to claim, i believe he did this to help town determine which scenario we were in, probably not the best move but again its highly doubtful that a mafia would do this, as the less information the town has the better it is for the mafia
that leaves 4, 2 mafia and 2 town
2. virus90
3. epic pie
4. Iron Butterfly
5. The Weird One
i'm reasonably sure that james and tam are town, but which of the last four players are which i'm not so sure.
The Weird One and virus90 both admitted to not knowing that the roleblocker was mafia,
and virus's case against me was quite well thought out, though he was wrong, in general i've gotten a pro-town feeling from virus,
TWO i haven't been able to read, doesn't seem like scum or town, just neutral
Iron Butterfly, basically has always advocated for a lynch,
epic pie, seems to be skimming quite a bit, i won't post the quotes case this post is already far to big but i'll post the page numbers
on page 5 towards the bottom, then on page 9,
okay so of the four left virus seems to be town, i'm not getting much off of TWO, IB slightly scummy vibes, but i'm getting more from epic, basically for skimming, he's admitted to laying low, and only posting when he has too, and his continual vote for tam when his original case was based on a false assumption. so i will vote epic pieJames and Tam are now clear in my book 100% But not just for this though. James did point out the role blocker and if tam was mafia there is no way he would out his scum buddy, which is why I thought he was the doc, which I found highly annoying.
If you notice through out the day Epic Pie is continuously trying to make tam look suspicious as his vote staays on Tam.
Tam Hammers, Epic Pie claims not realizing he was lynched and TWO states,
[color=#FF0000Well, greg, it looks like you might survive the night...that gives us one good investigate...that being said, this blows all sorts having both PRs out there. . .
Also: Before anyone jumps on me for sporatic posting, again, I'd post more, right now, but I'm presently having the entirety of an end-of-class project dumped on me at the last minute [yesterday night when it is due tomorrow first thing in the morning] by rather shoddy groupmates, to say the least...I'll post when I can...don't expect much out of me in the next 24-36 hours, though...either I'll be unconscious, or I won't be mentally fit to help...Sorry...I shall resume normalcy, soon, I hope...the amount that got dropped on me has just floored me...][/color]
TWO does not even question that Pie may be lying. His post suggests he does not know that Pie has been hammered. He simply accepts that Pie is the Doc with no consideration that his claim may be a lie.
viewtopic.php?f=213&t=197325&start=195Everyone starts to realize that Epic has indeed been hammered. james and tam are in panic mode. They believe that the Doc has been lynched. *grin* not something mafia would do. Meanwhile TWO disappears like Epic Pie did. Granted he uses the same excuse...but come on it does not take alot to read and post a few lines.
So now you need to choose between Virus, TwO and myself. the good news is we have a margin for error. You want to lynch me tonite feel free. Mafia will kill tonite and TWO will still be standing. I strongly believe Virus is Town by his actions and reasoning. His only big battle has been with Two.Everyone read from page 13 to Epics lynch and tell me i'm wrong. I will gladly take the lynch.
I am having second thoughts on James being scum as well.
