StorrZerg"I'm not sure why you didn't wait to see if i would have hammered.[/quote]Why would I risk you not doing so when I could do it myself?[quote="StorrZerg wrote:I'm town and trying to to not be lynched. I come from a different meta, and i do different things. It has been proven in past games that just because i do something different, does not make me scum. Sure streaker doesn't prove me 100%, but it does mean that there are likely 2 people who submitted kills within these 7.
DJ(and a lesser extent if the claim form jonty is real, dj is only on the list if jonty flips mafia with a different role)
I still think that Hotshot dying from targeting scum is the most likely explanation for there being 2 deaths.
StorrZerg wrote:I don't think you understand. I'm never going to exit volunteerly of this game. I'm not going to lay down and be lynched, I'm going to fight every second, and try and push town in the right direction. If i live because i've presented good cases, and defended myself well so be it. If i die because people tunnel on one specific moment of day 1, then ill make sure town is set in the right direction to lynch Mafia.
What if you squeak by with the day ending in a no lynch, but with enough of the town convinced you are scum that you will be the number one target tomorrow as well? Isn't a mislynch followed by a fresh start better than a no lynch followed by a mislynch?
StorrZerg wrote:If your win con is eliminating "anti-town, then you have to understand that i'm not the last mafia. You are making no effort in finding anyone else. Nor are you playing to part of your win con, and town reading people. This is an issue, because latter in the game people will be unsure of what you think about them, you will suddenly push a new case, the most likely lynch of that day and try to push for the win.
One can easily push more than 1 person.
If I believe I have found scum why would I risk diverting attention from my number one target to pursue a number 2? (Unless it is apparent that number 1 will not be lynched today.) I mean sure you can discuss other players, but I would not want to do anything that could divert votes away from the person I most believe to be scum. Or are we using different definitions of "push?" I consider it to mean push a lynch, as in try to make a person be lynched. It doesn't seem very feasible to try and gather votes on more than one target.
StorrZerg wrote:I suspect you avoid doing such things, because you are scared to town read people, and you are scared to try and push someone else for scum.
Again, if my number one target looks like a realistic lynch target for today why would I jeopardise that by going after someone else? Would you not be scared of messing up the chance to lynch the player you most think is scum, or causing a no lynch by splitting votes? No argument about the town reads part, other than we probably disagree about how useful it is.
StorrZerg wrote:Correction, you have not pushed anyone scummy this day. Your only original read and case stands for mets.
There are a finite number of meaningful cases to bring up against a person. Unless a game has been going on a long time that number is usually pretty low too. In these circumstance pancakemix has had enough content in what he has said that I don't have a problem with him not being the first one to express the central ideas of the case.
StorrZerg wrote:His actions are 100% anti town because of his inactivity, his claim to have visited a dead person needs explication.
While being bad for the town, I would not characterise his activity level as being an anti-town move. Let's call it non-alignment indicative, in my opinion at least.
JamesKer1 wrote:I am not always 100% available during the week, so it isn't necessarily me "deciding" to play that way. However, I will admit I was - and still am - trying to be quieter since I usually come off scummy when I open my mouth, even if I'm town.
Although posts like this could make me change my mind.
JamesKer1 wrote:Fair point. However, I think I would have gotten results if I was insane. As for alignment, I'll find out tonight.
No, you will find out today so that it can be used to help us decide who to lynch. (Although I am pretty confident what you will find.)
Anyhow, Vote StorZerg
out of the options for today's lynch he is the one I am most suspicious of.