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Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:17 am
by Blitzaholic
BOTH TEAMS will remain in due to the situation


you both are allowed to find a sub to play the finals

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:30 am
by Blitzaholic
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I can sub for dropped players


jr is subbing for dupa

seul you can get a sub

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:22 pm
by Seulessliathan
Blitzaholic wrote:
seul you can get a sub


Scott-Land would play in our team if that is ok

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:40 pm
by Blitzaholic
Seulessliathan wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
seul you can get a sub


Scott-Land would play in our team if that is ok



yes

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:57 pm
by Seulessliathan
ok, i joined and will pm Scott game numbers and PW

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:02 pm
by Seulessliathan
looks like we have to delete the games, team 1 found 2 players for sub and one of them joined before Velve (who was on my team from the begining) had a chance to join. We will have to set the finals up again and someone will have to ask a mod to delete this games.

Scott mentioned that it´s possible that mods won´t delete this games ....

well .... i will play these final games with Velve who is my teammate ..... and i won´t play 18 games. No idea what is the best way to solve this problem, maybe team 1 and Blitz give us their opinion here.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:06 pm
by Blitzaholic
the mods will NOT delete, you need to play them out, but they will not count

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:09 pm
by Blitzaholic
you would all need to play another 9 games or world 2.1

its in the thread here to be

dupa-jr subs
dcc1220
theprowler

vs

benjikat is dead-scott-land subs
seulessliathan
velvecarrots


this needs to happen or forfeit--let me know cause i will need to make another 9 games or both teams can agree those are the 9 and whoever wins 5 is the champion

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:55 pm
by Seulessliathan
perhaps somebody calculates the points and we deadbeat in the games with wrong teams, so in best case everybody wins/loses 0 points, perhaps + or - 10 points per player? and we set up 9 new games with Velve?

Doesn´t make a lot of sense to play this final without my teammates and with a sub the opponent team has chosen. I have no problem with rbelgrod, but i have never played with him and i don´t want to try in a tourney final .... and Velve qualified for the finals and should play them.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:08 pm
by Scott-Land
Seulessliathan wrote:perhaps somebody calculates the points and we deadbeat in the games with wrong teams, so in best case everybody wins/loses 0 points, perhaps + or - 10 points per player? and we set up 9 new games with Velve?

Doesn´t make a lot of sense to play this final without my teammates and with a sub the opponent team has chosen. I have no problem with rbelgrod, but i have never played with him and i don´t want to try in a tourney final .... and Velve qualified for the finals and should play them.


Absolutely- Velve has to be in the final matches.

I think if we do 3 games at a time, it will give us a better idea of the points as we all fluctuate. They deadbeat 2 and we will do 1 and keep track of it that way.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:28 pm
by Velvecarrots
I definitely want a remake of the 9 games.

As for the 9 games that "don't count", I don't really have a say in what they do in those games, but I think it would be easier for all of them to deadbeat and even out the points as much as possible, so they only have 9 2.1 unlimited games to play instead of 18.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:49 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
I suggest the first 9 games be played but dont count towards the final. than set up another 9 game with the correct players and count those. I dont see the point in deadbeating games when we all play triples anyways.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:57 pm
by dcc1220
I have no wish to deadbeat games. Sorry, I don't see that as an option. We all play plenty of triples games, these are just nine extra.

I do believe that the 9 games should be remade to count toward the tournament.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:01 pm
by dcc1220
Oh I see the problem now, the other team are higher ranked players so if we split the games they will lose more points and this might be a problem for them. Hmm....I really don't want to deadbeat games. I like my 100% turns taken record. I'm open to discussion but I highly doubt either team will lost a great deal of points on this matter.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:46 pm
by Mageplunka69
ok, i want to 1st of all say i am VERY sorry for all of this mess.I was covering for Dupa and had no idea of the name or the person in charge of this tourney ( i do now...lol) so when i got the pm from prowler telling me to join, i saw 1 spot left and had no idea of who my mates would be, so i joined them .....all of them.....it was an honest mistake.....shit happens ...so i think we should just play out the 9 games , we all know how to play trips, that do not count other than the destruction of the team i was supposed to be on ...lol and then you simply,( listening blitz) start some more...haha. and i would be willing to help whoever set some up if they need help. so, in short, play the 9 games, i do not deadbeat and that means alot to alot of people in alot of ways. and you guys can go on to another tourney and i will just go back to my little world of silence...lol
BUT I AM VERY SORRY FOR HAVING EVERYONE TO HAVE TO PLAY 9 MORE GAMES....I KNOW ITS SO MUCH WHEN WE ALL PLAY ANYWAY .....

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:47 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
dcc1220 wrote:I have no wish to deadbeat games. Sorry, I don't see that as an option. We all play plenty of triples games, these are just nine extra.

I do believe that the 9 games should be remade to count toward the tournament.

that pretty much repeats what I said. Im sure if we dont play those 9 specific games, there will be 9 other triples games we would play in its place so why deadbeat them on purpose? I play with different players all the time so it makes no difference who is on my team.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:12 pm
by Blitzaholic
well, you all decide what your going to do, but all agreed these 9 games will NOT count.


I will make another 9 after these are over. Just post when they are, thanks

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:09 am
by Scott-Land
rbelgrod wrote:ok, i want to 1st of all say i am VERY sorry for all of this mess.I was covering for Dupa and had no idea of the name or the person in charge of this tourney ( i do now...lol) so when i got the pm from prowler telling me to join, i saw 1 spot left and had no idea of who my mates would be, so i joined them .....all of them.....it was an honest mistake.....shit happens ...so i think we should just play out the 9 games , we all know how to play trips, that do not count other than the destruction of the team i was supposed to be on ...lol and then you simply,( listening blitz) start some more...haha. and i would be willing to help whoever set some up if they need help. so, in short, play the 9 games, i do not deadbeat and that means alot to alot of people in alot of ways. and you guys can go on to another tourney and i will just go back to my little world of silence...lol
BUT I AM VERY SORRY FOR HAVING EVERYONE TO HAVE TO PLAY 9 MORE GAMES....I KNOW ITS SO MUCH WHEN WE ALL PLAY ANYWAY .....


I sense sarcasm coming out of you and from where I stand, it just sounds shitty. There's more involved than just 9 more games and I could care less about points. But I can't speak for Seul and perhaps you shouldn't either- be more willing to do what we're asking as you're the one that got us into this mess.

If no one wants to deadbeat, then attack your partner.... end result is the same. Why force everyone to suffer because of a mistake that was made by someone else. I didn't have a problem playing them until I read all these posts.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:46 am
by Seulessliathan
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
dcc1220 wrote:I have no wish to deadbeat games. Sorry, I don't see that as an option. We all play plenty of triples games, these are just nine extra.

I do believe that the 9 games should be remade to count toward the tournament.

that pretty much repeats what I said. Im sure if we dont play those 9 specific games, there will be 9 other triples games we would play in its place so why deadbeat them on purpose? I play with different players all the time so it makes no difference who is on my team.


some of us play 50-100 games same time, but others don´t have so much time and aren´t interested in playing 9 games against a team with a partner they have neer teamed up with. My game count was 8 before i joined these games, so it doubles the number of my active games, and by adding 9 more games it would be trippled. There was a reason why i was down to 8, and i was calculating to play 9 more, but not 18.

If you don´t like deatbeating, attack your teammates, we can calculate the points and see how many games for which team so point lost is minimized.

Scott didn´t do anything wrong, it was nice to agree to sub for ben, but i can´t push him to play 9 games with a player he never played team games together with and another 9 games for the "real" final.
I don´t want to play so many games now, and rbelgrod won´t be really interested in playing against his friends.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:24 am
by Seulessliathan
i have calculated the points now:

team 1
2864
2771
3053
total:
8688

team2
4077
4253
2647
total
10977

win for team 1 = 25 points
win for team 2 = 16 points

4 wins team 1, 5 wins team 2 = 100 points for team 1, 80 points for team 2, team 2 loses 20 points
3 wins team 1, 5 wins team 2 = 75 points for team 1, 96 points for team 2, team 1 loses 21 points

suggestion:

team 1 gets the first the games (3709388, 3709389, 3709390)
team 2 gets the other 6 games

i start a 10th game and it will be a win for team 1 too

so we have in total:

4 wins team 1 = 100 points
6 wins team 2 = 96 points

for Scott and me it will be ok to lose 4 points due to a mistake of somebody else .... i hope this is a fair offer for everyone.

everybody attacks his teammates in the games which are wins for the other team and we try to finish this stuff as soon as possible, in about one week we start the real final games.

Please post here if you agree, or make a better suggestion (which should not include that i have to play 18 games , but which includes a way to let Velve plays these finals he has earned)

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:34 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
I have no interest in throwing a game in any nature. I dont care about points. I want to play all 9 and if you win all 9, than great.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:47 am
by Seulessliathan
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I have no interest in throwing a game in any nature. I dont care about points. I want to play all 9 and if you win all 9, than great.


your team joined with 4 players, i have never played a team game with rbelgrod and i don´t see why i should play 9 games with an unknown teammate. My team did nothing wrong, i joined, Scott joined for ben because ben can´t play, Velve wanted to join but your team put another player in. Doesn´t make a lot of sense .... I don´t see why i should be pushed to play these games, that wasn´t my mistake

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:31 am
by TheProwler
I read the posts on this page. I'm not going to read the rest of the posts.

Why is this such a big deal?

Unknown teammate? Wasn't every teammate unknown at some point? Or did you pop out of your mommy playing Risk with a big group of friends?

Give me a break.

You don't want to play an extra 9 games? Really? You know what I see? A person complaining and making a big deal out of an honest mistake. Apologies were made. I'm sorry for my part. But can we all agree to stop acting like spoiled rotten children and just play the games?

Let's just play the games out.

And when we are done with the practice round, my team will have to slaughter you in the real games for all your crying.

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:44 am
by Mageplunka69
Scott-Land wrote:
rbelgrod wrote:ok, i want to 1st of all say i am VERY sorry for all of this mess.I was covering for Dupa and had no idea of the name or the person in charge of this tourney ( i do now...lol) so when i got the pm from prowler telling me to join, i saw 1 spot left and had no idea of who my mates would be, so i joined them .....all of them.....it was an honest mistake.....shit happens ...so i think we should just play out the 9 games , we all know how to play trips, that do not count other than the destruction of the team i was supposed to be on ...lol and then you simply,( listening blitz) start some more...haha. and i would be willing to help whoever set some up if they need help. so, in short, play the 9 games, i do not deadbeat and that means alot to alot of people in alot of ways. and you guys can go on to another tourney and i will just go back to my little world of silence...lol
BUT I AM VERY SORRY FOR HAVING EVERYONE TO HAVE TO PLAY 9 MORE GAMES....I KNOW ITS SO MUCH WHEN WE ALL PLAY ANYWAY .....


I sense sarcasm coming out of you and from where I stand, it just sounds shitty. There's more involved than just 9 more games and I could care less about points. But I can't speak for Seul and perhaps you shouldn't either- be more willing to do what we're asking as you're the one that got us into this mess.

If no one wants to deadbeat, then attack your partner.... end result is the same. Why force everyone to suffer because of a mistake that was made by someone else. I didn't have a problem playing them until I read all these posts.

lol all, i was just trying to show some humor in all this confusion that i started, well someone started anyway

Re: Blitz MASTERS [Trips Season I]

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:50 am
by Seulessliathan
TheProwler wrote:I read the posts on this page. I'm not going to read the rest of the posts.

Why is this such a big deal?

Unknown teammate? Wasn't every teammate unknown at some point? Or did you pop out of your mommy playing Risk with a big group of friends?

Give me a break.

You don't want to play an extra 9 games? Really? You know what I see? A person complaining and making a big deal out of an honest mistake. Apologies were made. I'm sorry for my part. But can we all agree to stop acting like spoiled rotten children and just play the games?

Let's just play the games out.

And when we are done with the practice round, my team will have to slaughter you in the real games for all your crying.


perhaps you better should read the posts before you talk in this kind of language, your questions have already been answered.