http://www.navytimes.com/article/20140508/NEWS04/305080053/Navy-pays-1-cent-scrap-ex-carrier-Saratoga
I would pay at least 20 bucks for my own carrier.
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BigBallinStalin wrote:I wonder how much ESCO Marine lobbied to get that deal.
If government was more benevolent, couldn't they have sold the carrier at market price and then used the funds to get more vaccines, dildos, or at least Happy Meals? Think of the deadweight loss on this one. So many children, men, and women of all ages could've been satisfied.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Sure, dude. A jabillion tons of steel = $0.01, or the profit margin was "not huge." Perhaps 20,000,000% or so? I'm sure there was no way the government couldn't have made more money from this exchange. It's not like there's no nation in the world which would've been willing to repair a conventional carrier. None at all. Surely, it's cheaper for them to build one from scrap, right? It's only a multi-billion project that takes a few years and requires sophisticated capital and expertise, but government knows best, right??
Errrrggggg.............
The carrier could've served as a tourist attraction or a cheap mobile hotel, but who knows because government doesn't really give a shit about making a profit. It doesn't have to! Revel in the deadweight loss, Dukasaur. Revel in it. All that inefficiency, all those dying children without access to vaccines.
China and India each command around 30% of the world‟s recycling capacity, while Bangladesh‟s capacity is around 25%. Pakistan and Turkey each command 9% and 2%, respectively. These capacity figures are based on an analysis by IMO covering the last ten years.
The fact that there is very little ship recycling activity in Europe is often explained in terms of the inability of Europe to compete with the low labour costs and low compliance costs of South Asia.
During 2012, 1309 vessels reported for disposal at total deadweight of about 61mil tons. Ship owners scrapped a total of 1,119 ships over the course of 2013.
The ship breaking industry in South Asia has been under pressure because of alleged abuse of the environment and occupational health hazards. It is seen as a polluting industry that has adverse effects on the ecosystem and human lives, particularly the workers. Enforcement of regulations in the ship breaking industry is weak. Ship breaking activity is associated with dirty jobs, numerous deadly accidents, insecure labour, environmental injustice, and violation of human rights.
A labourer earns around 1-3 dollars per day depending on the type of work. Some 300-500 people are typically employed on a temporary basis for dismantling a ship, and many more are employed in downstream activities for recycling of all kind of materials from the ships. Some of the recycled materials are exported, and the rest is sold of and reused in Bangladesh. A lot of the materials are of high value to the local economy. In particular, recycling of steel for producing iron rods for construction, plates for new ships or for many other purposes is a lucrative business.
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Working in the ship breaking yards is a very dangerous job, which involves many human health risks. Sometimes gases explode killing workers. It also happens that workers are crushed by tumbling or falling steel parts. Sometimes workers fall from the high sides of ships on which they are working without safety harnesses. Many of the oxyacetylene cutters work without goggles. Few wear shoes, let alone protective clothing. Local organisations in Bangladesh estimate that some 1000-2000 workers have died in the last 30 years, and many more have suffered serious injuries. General health statistics show that the percentage of people with disabilities in the Chittagong area is above average for the country as a whole, because many workers have lost limbs or got other disabilities from working in the ship breaking yards.
It was available for donation to a state or nonprofit organization for public display as a museum or memorial for 12 years, but no viable applications were received.
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BigBallinStalin wrote:If shipbreaking was as unprofitable as you suggest, then why do they even exist in the US? (because they're profitable, so we can dismiss a large chunk of your post). It's not surprising that the ship wasn't put up for bidding among US or even international shipbreakers, so it's pretty obvious that this process is rigged. The carrier wasn't put on the open market, so you're making stuff up about no nation or organization willing to buy it. Selling it for $0.01 is absurd, and to see you constantly say otherwise is odd.
Hunter S. Thompson wrote:The Edge... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over..
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Hunter S. Thompson wrote:The Edge... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over..
BigBallinStalin wrote:If shipbreaking was as unprofitable as you suggest, then why do they even exist in the US? (because they're profitable, so we can dismiss a large chunk of your post).
The carrier wasn't put on the open market, so you're making stuff up about no nation or organization willing to buy it.
Selling it for $0.01 is absurd, and to see you constantly say otherwise is odd.
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