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How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going on?

Postby nietzsche on Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:46 pm

Seriously, I hate news.

Normally I get my news about what's happening globally from tidbits that people around me can't keep for themselves.

But I'm confused now. There's one in Russia/Ukraine, another in Israel/Palestina and then Irak and then Libia. Right? Are there more?
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:05 pm

Afghanistan.

Syria.
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Postby nietzsche on Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:47 pm

And one could assume that given there are so many violent conflicts going on, a country could get away with doing by force what they've always wanted without intervention from the UN, or with a lees likely intervention form the UN.

Say that next England take the Falklands, then Japan takes a little Chinese island. Then Russia annexes another ex-soviet territory.

Could that be the way a global conflict starts?
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:19 pm

Entangling alliances might ensure that, or they might serve as a great enough deterrant (e.g. NATO). Nuclear weapons help too. The opportunity cost of war (trade) also discourages war.

So, given those incentives, I don't see why Japan would attack China, why England would attack Falklands, etc.

Substate actors (e.g. "terrorists" and rebels) are more likely to attack whoever because the targeted country's alliance might not join in the fight (Germany, a member of NATO, is not actively bombing suspected terrorists with drones), nuclear weapons can be used on substate actors--without killing too many innocent people and without damaging the government under which the terrorists operate, and substate actors don't directly benefit enough from the trade agreements between two countries (and it's not like two governments are more likely to end a trade agreement because a group within either initiated some attack).
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Postby mrswdk on Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:02 pm

The Falklands are already British, so there is no need for them to 'take' the Falklands.

Your analogy would be better if you talked about Argentina trying to take the Falklands, although I believe they already tried that and failed.
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Postby patches70 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:48 pm

If the OP is asking a serious question, then here is the answer.

At this moment there are 10 active wars and 8 active military conflicts.

I'll just list the wars for you. We first define "wars" as-
Any ongoing violent conflict between two or more parties where 1,000 or more people have died within a year.

Ok, in no particular order, the 10 wars going on right now in the world-

1. Syria: Lots of different groups fighting in this one. Began in 2011 and proceeds to this day unabated.
2. Afghanistan: Afghan government forces vs Taliban forces.
3. Pakistan: Pakistan government vs Taliban, Al Qaeda and other autonomous tribal groups. Mainly in the areas were Pakistan borders Afghanistan.
4. Democratic Republic of Congo: Multiple combatants from Kony to Rwandan death squads. This war has been going on since 1998. No end in sight.
5. South Sudan: South Sudan seceded from Sudan in 2011. Since then it's been a civil war in South Sudan between ethnic groups; the Dinkas and President Kiir vs the Nuers and the former vice president. Famine and genocide run rampant.
6. Libya: Libyan government vs factional groups of tribe of former leader Gaddafi.
7: Ukraine: Ukrainian government vs secessionist rebels in East Ukraine.
8: Iraq.
9: Israel/Palestine.
10. Nigeria: Boko Haram (Name known colloquially, actual name of group is "The Congregation of the People of Tradition for Proselytism and Jihad" sheesh)vs Nigerian security forces and government.

And that is the full list of current wars. As stated there are also 8 military interventions going on as well and who knows? They could well flare up into wars and be added to the above list.

I hope this helps!
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Postby mrswdk on Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:30 am

The war on Christmas.
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Postby patches70 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:54 am

mrswdk wrote:The war on Christmas.



Damn, you're right, I forgot that one and a couple of others. The war on drugs, the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in, but that just may be rumors of war.
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Postby danfrank666 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 3:04 pm

Its seems the medias ( there has to be hundreds if not a thousand outlets ) are trying to talk up a WWIII , this time though will there be three sides , an allied, an axis and an i`m not sure side
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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby nietzsche on Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:58 pm

patches70 wrote: the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in


what is that supposed to mean?
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Postby patches70 on Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:07 pm

nietzsche wrote:
patches70 wrote: the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in


what is that supposed to mean?


As in you try to conquer as many as you can. You don't care who's sister or mother she may be, or so I hear. I dunno though hence the "rumors of war".


It's just a joke, cool breeze. I'm not calling you a republican so relax.
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Postby nietzsche on Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:17 pm

patches70 wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
patches70 wrote: the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in


what is that supposed to mean?


As in you try to conquer as many as you can. You don't care who's sister or mother she may be, or so I hear. I dunno though hence the "rumors of war".


It's just a joke, cool breeze. I'm not calling you a republican so relax.


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Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:02 pm

nietzsche wrote:
patches70 wrote: the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in


what is that supposed to mean?


Men are developing--and are paying some female researchers--a method to produce children without the use of a woman's womb. It follows that the OP is either (a) a primary donor of The Cause, or (b) actively participates in this research program.
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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby Gillipig on Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:39 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
patches70 wrote: the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in


what is that supposed to mean?


Men are developing--and are paying some female researchers--a method to produce children without the use of a woman's womb. It follows that the OP is either (a) a primary donor of The Cause, or (b) actively participates in this research program.

Don't ask me why but for some reason I don't think that will be a hit.
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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby BigBallinStalin on Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:03 pm

Gillipig wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
patches70 wrote: the war on women, the latter of which I hear that the OP is a primary participant in


what is that supposed to mean?


Men are developing--and are paying some female researchers--a method to produce children without the use of a woman's womb. It follows that the OP is either (a) a primary donor of The Cause, or (b) actively participates in this research program.

Don't ask me why but for some reason I don't think that will be a hit.


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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby muy_thaiguy on Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:33 pm

I believe there is one in Mali in which the French are helping the government keep terrorists from taking power. Unlike other places, the terrorists are not from Mali, but are invading it and have no help from the locals. Truth be told, the Mali army is not lacking in enthusiasm when it comes to fighting the invaders, but their lack of training and proper equipment is holding them back from being independent of their French allies help.
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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby patches70 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:52 pm

I didn't include Mali in the list of wars because according to the definition at least 1,000 people have to of been killed in a year's time. When the French intervened until the present, about 820 have been killed.

Mali is counted as a military intervention as per the definitions provided and also by the UN as well (UNSCR 2085). Not a war. The intervention has since largely winded down and today is just a UN peacekeeping force in Mali. Prior to the French intervention there was the Tuareg rebellion in Mali and that would certainly have counted as a war (near 2,000 killed, around abouts), but the Tuareg and the Mali government signed a peace treaty and ended that war in mid June, 2013.

The Islamist insurgents that the French fought against have been pretty much routed and all their leaders either captured or killed, collapsing the insurgency. So it's pretty much all done in Mali, except the normal run of the mill violence that so happens in most nations. Not to say such problems won't flare up again in the future, just right now it's relatively quiet in Mali.
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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby Phatscotty on Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:38 am

nietzsche wrote:Seriously, I hate news.

Normally I get my news about what's happening globally from tidbits that people around me can't keep for themselves.

But I'm confused now. There's one in Russia/Ukraine, another in Israel/Palestina and then Irak and then Libia. Right? Are there more?



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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby Gillipig on Thu Aug 14, 2014 4:19 am

Phatscotty wrote:
nietzsche wrote:Seriously, I hate news.

Normally I get my news about what's happening globally from tidbits that people around me can't keep for themselves.

But I'm confused now. There's one in Russia/Ukraine, another in Israel/Palestina and then Irak and then Libia. Right? Are there more?



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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby notyou2 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:51 pm

In socialist Canada we have the war on child obesity. Over 2000 fat kids have been obliterated to date.
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Re: How many wars/interventions/rev. or whatever are going o

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:01 am

notyou2 wrote:In socialist Canada we have the war on child obesity. Over 2000 fat kids have been obliterated to date.

They're not being obliterated. They're being sent to the fudge room.

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