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saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
Where is Saddam Husein when you need him? He exactly knew how to handle ISIS and other look alike organizations.
Pirlo wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
In another video, I saw them distributing toys and presents... Their accent belong to North Africa (Libya, Tunisia.. etc) It seems to be the most radicals are those north african immigrants to Europe... I think they can be useful if scientists left the poor animals alone and start making their tests on these assholes instead!
patches70 wrote:What? I dunno man, the trick is to make sure that the person(s) you are torturing actually have the information needed. Torturing for fishing expeditions is pointless, so I agree with that much.
But if you have a subject and you have a very good idea that they have the information you require, then torturing is extremely effective.
For instance, if I wanted to gain access to your PIN number of your bank card, I can guarantee you that in just a few minutes you would certainly tell me that PIN number. You may even try to lie, but the false information you give can be easily verified to be false, and then the torture would continue until you did eventually give in and tell me your PIN number.
However, if I wanted to get the PIN number from your neighbor's bank card, no amount of torture in the world performed upon you would get me that information.
A good torturer would know that it would be pointless in that case. Thus, you'd just get a bullet to the head while I kidnap your neighbor and torture him to get his PIN.
It is not determining if the victim is innocent, it's determining the probability that the intended victim actually has the information desired. And that's not as hard as you may think.
This assumes the person(s) doing the torturing actually know what they are doing. I think there was a movie about such a case, had The Rock and Mark Walbergh in it and it was based on a true story. They kidnap a guy and try to torture him to steal all his money. They steal a lot of the guy's assets but they were really bad at torture. They even screwed up royally when they tried to kill him, and that got them caught eventually. But the guy wouldn't give, because the torturers were incompetent. To steal his assets they ended up just forging his signature and other such types of fraud. A truly gifted torturer would have had the guy singing like a canary in no time at all.
Everyone breaks. Some sooner than others.
Army of GOD wrote:I love how the argument around torture is if it's effective or not, not if it's humane or not.
BigBallinStalin wrote:GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
Where is Saddam Husein when you need him? He exactly knew how to handle ISIS and other look alike organizations.
As shitty as it sounds, he did keep extreme Islamists under control--while keeping extreme 'Freedomites' under control, so it's difficult to immediately support autocrats.
GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
Where is Saddam Husein when you need him? He exactly knew how to handle ISIS and other look alike organizations.
As shitty as it sounds, he did keep extreme Islamists under control--while keeping extreme 'Freedomites' under control, so it's difficult to immediately support autocrats.
Overall Saddam was many times better then any postSaddam ruler in Iraq + he exactly knew how to talk with the Islamist(they only speak one language).
shickingbrits wrote:I see your link and I raise you:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fac ... l-weapons/
Indeed, Syria’s chemical weapons stockpile results from a never-acknowledged gentleman’s agreement in the Middle East that as long as Israel had nuclear weapons, Syria’s pursuit of chemical weapons would not attract much public acknowledgement or criticism. (The Fact Checker, when serving as The Washington Post’s diplomatic correspondent, learned of this secret arrangement from Middle Eastern and Western diplomats, but it was never officially confirmed.)
muy_thaiguy wrote:GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
Where is Saddam Husein when you need him? He exactly knew how to handle ISIS and other look alike organizations.
As shitty as it sounds, he did keep extreme Islamists under control--while keeping extreme 'Freedomites' under control, so it's difficult to immediately support autocrats.
Overall Saddam was many times better then any postSaddam ruler in Iraq + he exactly knew how to talk with the Islamist(they only speak one language).
There was 1 tiny little thing going against him though...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack
GoranZ wrote:2. US used chemical weapons in Vietnam on large scale. Where do you think Saddam learned that tactic?
Agent Orange was first developed at the University of Chicago during World War II. Professor E.J. Kraus identified a way to control the growth of plants by injecting them with hormones. Broadleaf vegetation was especially susceptible to sudden, rapid growth, which caused plant death.
The hormone theory was picked up by civilian scientists, and they developed a marketable product for controlling weeds along railroad rights of way and roadsides, as well as in private lawns.
The Army renewed their efforts to build on what they knew and found that combining 2,4-D with 2,4,5-T² made a deadly cocktail for the foliage. Unfortunately, what the scientists didn’t know (or covered up) was that 2,4,5-T contained dioxin, a useless but deadly by-product of herbicide production. It was discovered to produce skin diseases and liver damage in both the Vietnamese population and U.S. veterans exposed to it.
shickingbrits wrote:Tzor, have you lost your mind?
GoranZ wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:GoranZ wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:http://www.aleteia.org/ar/%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AA/%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88/%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%88-%D9%87%D9%83%D8%B0%D8%A7-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%85-%D8%BA%D8%B3%D9%84-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%BA%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B7%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%84-5845728035340288
Good video straight from IS. Watch how they indoctrinate kids!
Where is Saddam Husein when you need him? He exactly knew how to handle ISIS and other look alike organizations.
As shitty as it sounds, he did keep extreme Islamists under control--while keeping extreme 'Freedomites' under control, so it's difficult to immediately support autocrats.
Overall Saddam was many times better then any postSaddam ruler in Iraq + he exactly knew how to talk with the Islamist(they only speak one language).
There was 1 tiny little thing going against him though...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack
Do you realize how idiotic you sound when you talk about how others used WMD?
1. US is the only nation in the world that used Nuclear Weapons on enemy's civilian target, and you guys did it multiple times.
2. US used chemical weapons in Vietnam on large scale. Where do you think Saddam learned that tactic?
3. Who helped Iraq to make the chemical weapons you are talking about... It wasn't USSR
According to Iraqi documents, assistance in developing chemical weapons was obtained from firms in many countries, including the United States, West Germany, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, and France.
etc...
muy_thaiguy wrote:1. Yes, we used the A-bomb on Japan.
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3. You make it sound like all US citizens approve of whatever the US government does, especially when it happened say, before I was born/too young to even understand it at the time
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