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On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:32 pm
by Dukasaur
Found this quote on the internet today.
That my own life is a hollow succession of meaningless days filled with futile activity is a given, but at least I don’t have to pretend to be fascinated by it. Friendship demands that I be wholly engrossed in the latest re-telling of the trivial nothings that constitute the equally banal life of another.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:51 pm
by riskllama
hahaha, touché.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:49 pm
by KoolBak
Background for post?

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:25 am
by Dukasaur
KoolBak wrote:Background for post?

Just, I do a lot of reading and I'm always struck by how much really bad writing is out there. This was a problem already in the print age, but the internet has made it far, far worse. It's incredible how many 'writers' have no real feeling for their craft. And yet, sometimes even in the worst pile of dung one finds a diamond ring. A beautiful paragraph, or maybe even a beautiful line or two. Maybe you've noticed, maybe you haven't, but lately I've taken to quoting well-written paragraphs from otherwise lousy articles. I just get so excited when I find some genuine bit of art in what is otherwise a pile of dung. Maybe it's the same thing that motivates yard-sale people.

The piece above wasn't even in the article itself; it was in the comments section below it. The article was some pedestrian bit of bullshit about why love fades. There wasn't anything remotely quotable in it, but I found that lovely gem in the comments.

I suppose it resonates with me because I've back in the dating world for the last couple months. It is a real challenge, trying to make my dull life sound interesting to a stranger. If I was more capable of lying it would be a lot easier, but one thing I am is compulsively honest. I might spin things and embellish a bit, but I never tell an outright lie. Under those circumstances, making my boring blue-collar life sound like something that isn't completely banal and pointless is an enormous challenge indeed. But what's an even greater challenge is staying alert and trying to show interest while they spill out the stories of their equally banal and pointless lives.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:37 am
by riskllama
lol yeah, feigning interest & lying are valuable skills to have, Duk. good luck to you, sir!

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:46 am
by HitRed
Keep looking for the spark.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:52 am
by Dukasaur
Marinus van der Lubbe found a spark. Didn't do him any good.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:55 am
by HitRed
You're in a dark mood today.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:07 am
by 2dimes
Dukasaur wrote:I do a lot of reading and I'm always struck by how much really bad writing is out there. This was a problem already in the print age, but the internet has made it far, far worse. It's incredible how many 'writers' have no real feeling for their craft. And yet, sometimes even in the worst pile of dung one finds a diamond ring. A beautiful paragraph, or maybe even a beautiful line or two.


You're welcome. Glad I could help brighten your day occasionally.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:33 am
by bigtoughralf
Sounds like Duk needs to move the conversation away from 'what did you do today'. Even if you're a bomb disposal expert, you'll get pretty bored talking about it if you've already told it to 100 other dates.

I probably wouldn't open with all that stuff from the OP about how life is futile though. Sounds a bit emo.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:37 pm
by Dukasaur
whether the glory that surrounded you surpassed all human description, or the severest and most ignominious human judgment was passed on you -- eternity asks you and every one of these millions of millions, just one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not,
[...]
If then, if you have lived in despair, then whatever else you won or lost, for you everything is lost, eternity does not acknowledge you, it never knew you, or, still more dreadful, it knows you as you are known, it manacles you to yourself in despair!”
― Søren Kierkegaard, The Sickness Unto Death

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:47 pm
by bigtoughralf
Think we're starting to see where your dates are going wrong.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:50 pm
by jonesthecurl
HG Wells put it better than I can, in The History of Mr Polly -but boredom is always your own fault.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:07 pm
by HitRed
Maybe a librarian would be a good fit.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:29 pm
by Dukasaur
jonesthecurl wrote:HG Wells put it better than I can, in The History of Mr Polly -but boredom is always your own fault.

That was one of only two moral lessons I learned from my mother. Her way of putting it was less concise, but still very strong. "Only stupid people are bored. The intelligent person is always busy pondering some mystery or other, even in the complete absence of external stimuli."

The other lesson my mother drilled into me was, "All civilization depends on trigonometry. Without trigonometry we would still be living in caves and throwing rocks at bears. If the Gestapo comes in the middle of the night, beats you black and blue and drags you away to the cells, you must still be capable of reciting the Pythagorean Theorem. If you lose trigonometry you lose everything."

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:46 pm
by riskllama
maybe you could make nice with rammy & ask him for some sweet dating tips, duk - sounds like he gets more ass than a toilet seat in a women's prison... :idea:

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:59 pm
by jusplay4fun
Dukasaur wrote:Found this quote on the internet today.
That my own life is a hollow succession of meaningless days filled with futile activity is a given, but at least I don’t have to pretend to be fascinated by it. Friendship demands that I be wholly engrossed in the latest re-telling of the trivial nothings that constitute the equally banal life of another.


Does Friendship and Friendliness get one anywhere?

To use a baseball analogy, did one hit a foul ball, or get a base hit? Not every hit is a homerun. And remember, some do strike out.

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:32 pm
by KoolBak
Dude. Truly, if you can't hit it off with someone being yourself, it ain't meant to happen. If they bore you, same thing.

You know this. I taught you better.

Now be yourself, be patient, don't settle.

Thassa gooood Duk of Death *pats head*

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:15 am
by jusplay4fun
KoolBak wrote:Dude. Truly, if you can't hit it off with someone being yourself, it ain't meant to happen. If they bore you, same thing.

You know this. I taught you better.

Now be yourself, be patient, don't settle.

Thassa gooood Duk of Death *pats head*


Yes,
hit it off

EXACTLY.

Not everyone you meet will be "your type." That is why to be in LOVE is so special.

Try this song:



https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxIHL6d-RM&list=RDAMVM8mxIHL6d-RM

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:43 am
by bigtoughralf
riskllama wrote:maybe you could make nice with rammy & ask him for some sweet dating tips, duk - sounds like he gets more ass than a toilet seat in a women's prison... :idea:


Don't women prisoners piss standing up to reduce the risk of surprise stabbings?

Re: On the value of friendlessness

PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:14 am
by riskllama