Conquer Club

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:38 pm**

More evidence of Trump being totally unfit to serve as president, his distaste of non-white americans, and his inability to show even a shred of decency towards members of our own military who have died.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rag ... g-mexican/

Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.

That outburst came after Trump invited Guillén’s loved ones to the White House and offered to pay for her funeral, The Atlantic reported.

Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”

When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f---ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.

The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:52 pm**

Just remember his words about the U.S. military men and women who were killed in France as "suckers and losers"

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:31 pm**

In the two hours since this story -- based on "anonymous sources" -- broke, it's already been discredited by every person who was in the meeting.

Chief of Staff Meadows

I was in the discussions featured in the Atlantic’s latest hit piece against President Trump. Let me say this.

Any suggestion that President Trump disparaged Ms. Guillen or refused to pay for her funeral expenses is absolutely false.

He was nothing but kind, gracious, and wanted to make sure that the military and the U.S. government did right by Vanessa Guillen and her family.

https://x.com/MarkMeadows/status/1848827404145336321

Democrats will immediately concoct a new conspiracy theory saying that Meadows is in on the plot. But also discrediting the story are --

Guillén’s attorney

After having dealt with hundreds of reporters in my legal career, this is unfortunately the first time I have to go on record and call out Jeffrey Goldberg@the Atlantic: not only did he misrepresent our conversation but he outright LIED in HIS sensational story. More importantly, he used and exploited my clients, and Vanessa Guillen’s murder… for cheap political gain.

https://x.com/WhistleblowerLF/status/18 ... 5955056983

Guillén herself

I don’t appreciate how you are exploiting my sister’s death for politics- hurtful & disrespectful to the important changes she made for service members. President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to my family & Vanessa.

https://x.com/mguilen_/status/1848824382572900374

The translator:

I was at President Trump’s meeting with the Guillén family because I assisted with translation that day. President Trump was genuinely concerned about Vanessa Guillén and appalled by the tragedy the Guillén Family were enduring.

https://x.com/RealTheoWold/status/1848863993370447923

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:34 pm**

This is the third story about Trump saying ridiculously insensitive things that Goldberg has published in The Atlantic. In none of the three stories has he been able to name a single witness. In two of them, people did go on the record to affirm that the details of the events either didn't happen or physically couldn't have happened on the timelines or in places he described as they key people were demonstrably and publicly in other locations.

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:39 pm**

Meanwhile, this story is not based on anonymous sources.

‘Bully’ Kamala Harris ‘berated staff,’ left them in tears after berating them with ‘F-bombs,’ intern told never to make eye contact

An unearthed 2019 op-ed from professor Terry McAteer published in California newspaper The Union describes the “eye-opening” month his son Gregory spent as an intern for Harris, now the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

McAteer, a Democrat with generational political ties to the party, claimed his son was subjected to a “side of Kamala Harris which the general public does not know”.

“Harris vocally throws around ‘F-bombs’ and other profanity constantly in her berating of staff and others,” McAteer wrote.

“As AG… Harris instructed her entire staff to stand every morning as she entered the office and say, ‘Good Morning General’.

“Gregory was also given instructions to never address Harris nor look her in the eye as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.”

https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/k ... bs-report/

Posted: **Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:20 pm**

“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this.

Seems like a first hand account, confirmed by a second source to me. You just want them to publicly name themselves so Trumps rabid insurrectionist supporters will show up to their home and burn effigies in the front lawns or murder their pets.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:07 am**

mookiemcgee wrote:“I need the kind of generals that Hitler had,” Trump said in a private conversation in the White House, according to two people who heard him say this.

Seems like a first hand account, confirmed by a second source to me. You just want them to publicly name themselves so Trumps rabid insurrectionist supporters will show up to their home and burn effigies in the front lawns or murder their pets.

Dam, now im sure Saxi wont vote for Kamala.
That and Arnold Palmers schlong is simply too much to make up for.

But funny how that nazi stuff always casually pops up in the Trump universe.
Strange coincidences indeed....lol

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:23 am**

All pandering, partisan BS aside...
Seriously, $60,000 is waaaay too much for any funeral regardless of ethnicity.

Which leads to only three rational conclusions.
• That woman's next-of-kin are idiots.
• If the woman in question was similarly mentally incapacitated she probably put herself into a deadly stupid situation that got herself killed.
• Trump is both fiscally responsible and nobody's fool or patsy.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:32 am**

saxi wrote:In none of the three stories has he been able to name a single witness.

mookiemcgee wrote:according to two people who heard him say this

So the given name of the witness is Two and his surname is People?

You should know better than to bring these silly conspiracy theories here.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:40 am**

saxitoxin wrote:
saxi wrote:In none of the three stories has he been able to name a single witness.

mookiemcgee wrote:according to two people who heard him say this

So the given name of the witness is Two and his surname is People?

You should know better than to bring these silly conspiracy theories here.

Yeah!- ...uh, wait, ... saxi are you roleplaying Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg?

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:47 am**

For every whisper campaign based on "anonymous sources" -- written by a columnist who has previously been accused of lying by his very own sources (!) -- we can provide a story based on actual, independently verifiable testimony.

If you didn't like the one about where Mamala wouldn't let her servants look her directly in the eye, credited to a witness by name, here's fresh meat just from today:

Kamala Harris hit by fresh plagiarism allegations

Kamala Harris has become embroiled in a second plagiarism row after she was accused of copying a Republican’s congressional testimony. Now, fresh allegations have emerged that the former prosecutor lifted more than 1,000 words from the testimony of a Republican state attorney when called as a witness before Congress. Of the roughly 1,500 words Ms Harris devoted to discussion of the legislation, nearly 1,200 of them appear to be copied verbatim from the statement Mr Logli, a Republican, submitted to the Senate committee on Feb 27, 2007. It comes after the vice-president was accused last week of copying more than a dozen sections of the book that helped launch her political career from various sources, including a speech from Martin Luther King Jr. and Wikipedia.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics ... arism-row/

These are the Conquer Club forums, not some sub-reddit.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:57 pm**

The latest "anonymous sources" story continues to face withering discreditation. Today the discrediting came from Nick Ayers, Mike Pence's chief of staff. Ayers has stuck by Pence and joined in his criticism of Trump over the last four years and has been public that he's not voting Trump in 2024.

I’ve avoided commenting on intra-staff leaks or rumors or even lies as it relates to my time at the White House but Kelly’s comments regarding Trump are too egregious to ignore. I was with each of them more than most, and his commentary is *patently false.*

https://x.com/nick_ayers/status/1849156855106273331

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:16 pm**

This appears to be LIES, based on the all the evidence presented. AND....

Unnamed sources puts all these stories in the category of QUESTIONABLE, at best. LIES and/or distortions maybe the appropriate terms.

This very much looks like tactics of very desperate Democrats: LIE about the person when things are not going well. Remember the Rumors (i.e., LIES) about Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings? The rapes and orgies?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/03/no-kavanaugh-didnt-lie-220903/

What happened to Michelle Obama's idea of going High? "When they go low, we go high."

Now, to be fair, I am sure the "other side" has done some questionable, unethical, and sordid things in campaigns. Politics is a dirty game.

More on Kavanaugh, from the cited source: (any of this sound familiar?)

The focus on Kavanaugh’s supposed lies comes as the rest of the case against him is falling apart or is at a standstill. The Julie Swetnick gang-rape accusations are in a state of collapse, not that they were sturdy to begin with. The Deborah Ramirez exposing-himself-at-Yale allegation isn’t very reliable, given the admittedly foggy state of her own memory. And no corroborating evidence has emerged for Christine Blasey Ford’s charge.

This has forced Kavanaugh’s opponents to resort to his testimony itself as the reason he should be disqualified, although they gloss over the most important part if they want to hang him on adolescent drinking.

In his opening statement in the Senate hearing, Kavanaugh said, “Sometimes, I had too many beers.” This is obviously an acknowledgment of excessive drinking. He further allowed of himself and his friends, in a statement that covers a lot of misbehavior (but not alleged crimes), “We sometimes did goofy or stupid things. I doubt we are alone in looking back in high school and cringing at some things.”

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:42 pm**

There isn't any insiders calling it a lie besides Trump's campaign manager who's actual job is to claim any bad news is a lie.

You don't believe the press, you don't believe 5 star military generals, you don't believe all the people Trump appointed in his first term, you are just burying your head in the sand and being willfully ignorant. You just don't care, enjoy the kool-aid

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:59 pm**

If there are questions release the tapes or transcripts. 60 Minutes

Trust has to be earned.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:14 pm**

mookiemcgee wrote:There isn't any insiders calling it a lie besides Trump's campaign manager

Ironically that is, itself, a lie.

Guillén’s attorney:

After having dealt with hundreds of reporters in my legal career, this is unfortunately the first time I have to go on record and call out Jeffrey Goldberg@the Atlantic: not only did he misrepresent our conversation but he outright LIED in HIS sensational story. More importantly, he used and exploited my clients, and Vanessa Guillen’s murder… for cheap political gain.

https://x.com/WhistleblowerLF/status/18 ... 5955056983

mookiemcgee wrote:you don't believe 5 star military generals

I don't believe five four-star generals when they (a) sit on outrageous information for five years and only happen to remember to mention it 13 days before the election of the person it's supposed to indict, (b) when the general in question was fired by the person he's criticizing, (c) when another prominent Trump critic [Pence's chief of staff] goes on record to say the general's claims are not true.

Under those circumstances, yes, I do apply critical thinking. You should, too.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:16 pm**

saxitoxin wrote:Meanwhile, this story is not based on anonymous sources.

‘Bully’ Kamala Harris ‘berated staff,’ left them in tears after berating them with ‘F-bombs,’ intern told never to make eye contact

An unearthed 2019 op-ed from professor Terry McAteer published in California newspaper The Union describes the “eye-opening” month his son Gregory spent as an intern for Harris, now the presumptive Democratic nominee for president.

McAteer, a Democrat with generational political ties to the party, claimed his son was subjected to a “side of Kamala Harris which the general public does not know”.

“Harris vocally throws around ‘F-bombs’ and other profanity constantly in her berating of staff and others,” McAteer wrote.

“As AG… Harris instructed her entire staff to stand every morning as she entered the office and say, ‘Good Morning General’.

“Gregory was also given instructions to never address Harris nor look her in the eye as that privilege was only allowed to senior staff members.”

https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/k ... bs-report/

What was the subject of this thread? Saxi?

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:25 pm**

This one time at band camp, Trump shoved a trumpet up my ass and told me to play the national anthem while he Trumps it up while i give my trumpateers best. I'm pretty traumatized.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:27 pm**

jusplay4fun wrote:This appears to be LIES, based on the all the evidence presented. AND....

Unnamed sources puts all these stories in the category of QUESTIONABLE, at best. LIES and/or distortions maybe the appropriate terms.

This very much looks like tactics of very desperate Democrats: LIE about the person when things are not going well. Remember the Rumors (i.e., LIES) about Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings? The rapes and orgies?

Trying to derail this thread?

The Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg published an article about Trump and his promise to pay for Guillén’s funeral costs. Trump became angry when he was informed the funeral was $60,000, the article said.

“‘It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f‑‑‑‑‑‑ Mexican!” Goldberg reported Trump saying. “He later turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: ‘Don’t pay it!’”

The Guillén’s family attorney, Natalie Khawam, told the magazine that she sent the bill for the funeral to the White House but no money was ever received from Trump, the article said.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/03/no-kavanaugh-didnt-lie-220903/

What happened to Michelle Obama's idea of going High? "When they go low, we go high."

Now, to be fair, I am sure the "other side" has done some questionable, unethical, and sordid things in campaigns. Politics is a dirty game.

More on Kavanaugh, from the cited source: (any of this sound familiar?)
The focus on Kavanaugh’s supposed lies comes as the rest of the case against him is falling apart or is at a standstill. The Julie Swetnick gang-rape accusations are in a state of collapse, not that they were sturdy to begin with. The Deborah Ramirez exposing-himself-at-Yale allegation isn’t very reliable, given the admittedly foggy state of her own memory. And no corroborating evidence has emerged for Christine Blasey Ford’s charge.

This has forced Kavanaugh’s opponents to resort to his testimony itself as the reason he should be disqualified, although they gloss over the most important part if they want to hang him on adolescent drinking.

In his opening statement in the Senate hearing, Kavanaugh said, “Sometimes, I had too many beers.” This is obviously an acknowledgment of excessive drinking. He further allowed of himself and his friends, in a statement that covers a lot of misbehavior (but not alleged crimes), “We sometimes did goofy or stupid things. I doubt we are alone in looking back in high school and cringing at some things.”

What was thread about? Murder? Or Kavanaugh’s drinking habits?

The Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg published an article about Trump and his promise to pay for Guillén’s funeral costs. Trump became angry when he was informed the funeral was $60,000, the article said.

“‘It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f‑‑‑‑‑‑ Mexican!” Goldberg reported Trump saying. “He later turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: ‘Don’t pay it!’”

The Guillén’s family attorney, Natalie Khawam, told the magazine that she sent the bill for the funeral to the White House but no money was ever received from Trump, the article said.

The question should be, "Where's the bill paid in full receipt?"

As far as Trump using FUKN MEXICANS wording...if the shoe fits. He has already used Mexican rapists, murderers, smugglers and other kind names.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:18 pm**

Posobiac is the undisputed king of the conservative retardosphere, but I agree with him on this. Looking at the public polling and early vote returns, and extrapolating what their internal polls are saying, this is their Hail Mary.

The prosecutions backfired, both of the assassins bungled the job, and now the campaign itself is on life support.

As crazy as it sounds, claiming Trump had a seance with the ghost of Adolf Hitler is the only thing left to try.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:26 pm**

Wowsa.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:25 pm**

Pack Rat wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:This appears to be LIES, based on the all the evidence presented. AND....

Unnamed sources puts all these stories in the category of QUESTIONABLE, at best. LIES and/or distortions maybe the appropriate terms.

This very much looks like tactics of very desperate Democrats: LIE about the person when things are not going well. Remember the Rumors (i.e., LIES) about Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings? The rapes and orgies?

Trying to derail this thread?

The Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg published an article about Trump and his promise to pay for Guillén’s funeral costs. Trump became angry when he was informed the funeral was $60,000, the article said.

“‘It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f‑‑‑‑‑‑ Mexican!” Goldberg reported Trump saying. “He later turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: ‘Don’t pay it!’”

The Guillén’s family attorney, Natalie Khawam, told the magazine that she sent the bill for the funeral to the White House but no money was ever received from Trump, the article said.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/03/no-kavanaugh-didnt-lie-220903/

What happened to Michelle Obama's idea of going High? "When they go low, we go high."

Now, to be fair, I am sure the "other side" has done some questionable, unethical, and sordid things in campaigns. Politics is a dirty game.

More on Kavanaugh, from the cited source: (any of this sound familiar?)
The focus on Kavanaugh’s supposed lies comes as the rest of the case against him is falling apart or is at a standstill. The Julie Swetnick gang-rape accusations are in a state of collapse, not that they were sturdy to begin with. The Deborah Ramirez exposing-himself-at-Yale allegation isn’t very reliable, given the admittedly foggy state of her own memory. And no corroborating evidence has emerged for Christine Blasey Ford’s charge.

This has forced Kavanaugh’s opponents to resort to his testimony itself as the reason he should be disqualified, although they gloss over the most important part if they want to hang him on adolescent drinking.

In his opening statement in the Senate hearing, Kavanaugh said, “Sometimes, I had too many beers.” This is obviously an acknowledgment of excessive drinking. He further allowed of himself and his friends, in a statement that covers a lot of misbehavior (but not alleged crimes), “We sometimes did goofy or stupid things. I doubt we are alone in looking back in high school and cringing at some things.”

What was thread about? Murder? Or Kavanaugh’s drinking habits?

The Atlantic’s Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg published an article about Trump and his promise to pay for Guillén’s funeral costs. Trump became angry when he was informed the funeral was $60,000, the article said.

“‘It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f‑‑‑‑‑‑ Mexican!” Goldberg reported Trump saying. “He later turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: ‘Don’t pay it!’”

The Guillén’s family attorney, Natalie Khawam, told the magazine that she sent the bill for the funeral to the White House but no money was ever received from Trump, the article said.

The question should be, "Where's the bill paid in full receipt?"

As far as Trump using FUKN MEXICANS wording...if the shoe fits. He has already used Mexican rapists, murderers, smugglers and other kind names.

Again, you miss the point. This is about LIES. And how leftist REPEAT or even ORIGINATE them, and then the LIES are quoted by the leftist Press & Media.

Posted: **Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:38 pm**

This is why Kamala endorser Gen. Kelly happened to forget the most shocking thing he'd ever heard in his life, until - after five years of forgetfulness - he suddenly remembered two days ago.

New poll: Trump is getting record levels of support among young Black and Latino men

A new poll that includes large oversamples of young voters of color shows Donald Trump has massively increased his support among groups that he previously performed poorly with in 2020. It underscores some of the challenges Kamala Harris has had connecting with younger male voters — a demographic that typically breaks for Democrats, but is showing signs of shifting away from the party this election cycle.

-A quarter of young Black men are supporting Trump. (Black men overall backed President Joe Biden nearly nine to one in 2020.)

-44 percent of young Latino men said they'd back Trump, an improvement over the roughly 38 percent who backed him in 2020.

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2 ... s-00185161

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:25 am**

BREAKING: TRUMP AND EPSTEIN DOUBLE-GROPED A WOMAN IN 1993

I'm gonna spare you all the trouble on this one. This is even less believable than "Trump had a seance with the ghost of Adolf Hitler" story.

The Guardian has just come out with a story from a woman who claims Donald Trump groped her in 1993.

... early spring of '93

Epstein has lived at least part time in the seven-story Beaux-Arts home since 1996, when the building was owned by Epstein’s benefactor Leslie Wexner, the founder and CEO of L Brands, which includes Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Body Works.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07 ... nsion.html

Town & Country Magazine

Kamala is so desperate she's not even trying at this point.

Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:48 am**

mookiemcgee wrote:There isn't any insiders calling it a lie besides Trump's campaign manager who's actual job is to claim any bad news is a lie.

You don't believe the press, you don't believe 5 star military generals, you don't believe all the people Trump appointed in his first term, you are just burying your head in the sand and being willfully ignorant. You just don't care, enjoy the kool-aid

---------Are you LEFTIES done yet...
----------- 1st The Guillen family has come out...This fake news story is a LIE.... TRUMP met with them in the Oval office, spoke with them, was very supportive...What he said to them was," if the Military doesn't take care of her funeral...I will..."...They were very pleased with President TRUMP...Then they let reporters in.....The clip of Vanessa's sister speaking to TRUMP thanking him...(July 30, 2020 A.D.),...FOX aired it on John Roberts show at 1pm... Yesterday....Back then on July 30, 2020 A.D....John Roberts was in the room...
------- 2nd Kash Patal who has been with TRUMP since he has been PRESIDENT...was in the Oval Office, when TRUMP spoke to the family , before the press.... Confirmed they family's statement...

------- Reading and Watching, and posting FAKE NEWS Mookie....TRY WATCHING FOX NEWS...

...You said, no insiders....THERE IS NOW....NO BIGGER THAN THE GUILLEN FAMILY...."THE STORY IS A LIE :!:

" ...

ConfederateSS.out (The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... O:)

-----------BUT THERE IS VIDEO EVIDENCE OF THE 1st LADY Jill Biden CALLING ALL LATIANS "TACOS"...
---------- TRUMP always is himself when speaking....
---------- VP Harris, uses a mocking accent , of what ever group she is speaking to.......

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