Conquer Club

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:09 am**

Jamie,

I found your jacket:

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:27 am**

That'd be funny if I were jewish, and 13, but since I'm 30, and not Jewish, it really doesn't make much sense

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:06 am**

Jamie wrote:Contribute??? When the US invaded Berlin in 1943, Hitler was two weeks away from having the Atomic bomb first. How would history have turned out if that had happened. Whenever there is a disaster somewhere in the world, even in a hostile country, who's the first to render aid, the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. After 9/11 the Iranians were dancing in the street CELEBRATING the deaths of 3,000 men, women, and children, simply because they were christian Americans. A few months later, when Iran suffered through an earthquake that killed 20,000 Iranians, we didn't celebrate, or gloat, or rejoice in the deaths of 20,000 muslims. Red cross was there THE NEXT DAY, with relief supplies. When London was bombed, Red Cross was right there. Don't tell me the US doesn't contribute. The US military may stick it's nose where it doesn't belong at times *cough* Iraq *cough*. That would be our stupid warmonger presidents fault. Despite our redneck president, we are there whenever disaster strikes another country. When a tsunami devestated the Indian Ocean, killing 250,000 people, the US raised over 16 Billion dollars in relief funds, as well as sending Red Cross out to assist the survivors. I myself purchased several dozen bottles of water to be sent over to Indonesia. We may seem arrogant at times, but hearing about the plights in other countries, and misfortunes, we sometimes just feel so damn lucky to live here, and we get up on a high horse at times. We are proud of our country, and we'll let the whole world know it. Don't tell me the US doesn't contribute. We contribute more than any other country is even capable, and if your country ever suffers a calamity of some kind, we'll be right there to help in your time of need. If a tidal wave wiped out the eastern seaboard of the US, killing millions, how many countries would send help for us?

That really doesn't wash I'm afraid, for a number of reasons:

Firstly, US aid is pretty much tied to foreign policy activity: Look at how much aid you've provided to Palestine recently...

Secondly, you don't seem to be able to manage your own problems that well - Katrina - so I don't think its too justified to claim superiority for looking after the rest of the world.

Thirdly, and most importantly, the US contribution to global development and aid is TINY compared to pretty much every other western country. Take a look at this website: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp for a detailed summary. I've taken the liberty to post the chart we're mainly concerned with here, however, as I;m almost 100% sure your not going to bother to educate yourself and take off those blinkers:

That chart shows the overall aid contribution as a percentage of national income.

Also, thats a lovely jacket... :shock:

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:32 am**

Wheres all the rich Muslim led countries on your chart?????

Oh! Thats right, all their extra money goes to terrorism.

You Muslims just cant stand the fact that Israel owns your azz can you.

Every chance you get you call someone a jew.

They, Not YOU MUSLIMS, are Gods Chosen people and its just sticks in your craw bad don't it.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:32 am**

Jamie wrote:Contribute??? When the US invaded Berlin in 1943, Hitler was two weeks away from having the Atomic bomb first.

I only got this far before I stopped. Get a history book!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:30 pm**

Gerazan wrote:Wheres all the rich Muslim led countries on your chart?????

Oh! Thats right, all their extra money goes to terrorism.

You Muslims just cant stand the fact that Israel owns your azz can you.

Every chance you get you call someone a jew.

They, Not YOU MUSLIMS, are Gods Chosen people and its just sticks in your craw bad don't it.

Erm... I'm an Atheist... and how does the fact that Arab nations don't contribute much aid mean that America shouldn't? What happened to that Christian charitable spirit and turning the other cheek that Jamie was talking about a minute ago?

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:00 pm**

Gerazan wrote:They, Not YOU MUSLIMS, are Gods Chosen people and its just sticks in your craw bad don't it.

Who are you talking to? Quote button...learn it, use it.

Oh...and gods aren't real...neither are leprechauns. There are no "chosen people". :roll:

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:34 pm**

Jamie wrote:That'd be funny if I were jewish, and 13, but since I'm 30, and not Jewish, it really doesn't make much sense

It's funny because you appear to be wearing it. Anyway, I laughed and that is all that matters.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:38 pm**

Jamie wrote:Contribute??? When the US invaded Berlin in 1943, Hitler was two weeks away from having the Atomic bomb first.

With a Masters in World History, with a focus in Military History, I can tell you this is utter bullshit. The Diebner Atomic Bomb never made it past a little 1 kiloton party popper.

How would history have turned out if that had happened.

Considering that it didn't, and it wouldn't have, it's nothing but pure speculation with no basis in reality.

Whenever there is a disaster somewhere in the world, even in a hostile country, who's the first to render aid, the UNITED STATES of AMERICA.

*rolls eyes*

After 9/11 the Iranians were dancing in the street CELEBRATING the deaths of 3,000 men, women, and children, simply because they were christian Americans. A few months later, when Iran suffered through an earthquake that killed 20,000 Iranians, we didn't celebrate, or gloat, or rejoice in the deaths of 20,000 muslims. Red cross was there THE NEXT DAY, with relief supplies. When London was bombed, Red Cross was right there. Don't tell me the US doesn't contribute.

Actually, the Red Crescent (the Moslem counterpart to the Red Cross) responded in Iran. Moreover, the Red Cross is not a purely American organization, it's international. Granted, there is an American branch of the Red Cross, but that does not equate the Red Cross as being American by pure composition.

If a tidal wave wiped out the eastern seaboard of the US, killing millions, how many countries would send help for us?

Who cares?

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:17 pm**

Since we're throwing proverbs around:

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you!"

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:38 pm**

tmidgley wrote:
D.IsleRealBrown wrote:You guys are seriously starting to piss me off. Why don't you get off your fucking high horses and contribute something to society for once instead of just stealing knowledge and wealth from 3rd world countries. All you're good for is hate and pron.

Seriously, f*ck off!

My dick is bigger then yours, get over it you fuckin ass wipe. People like you should be loaded on a rocket and shoved up Oprah's ass....

lol, midgets like yourself make me laugh.

Nice use of "then" btw, fucking dipshit.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:38 pm**

DewyDew wrote:Since we're throwing proverbs around:

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you!"

Nice one.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:57 pm**

I'd be quite happy for America not to be the hand that feeds me to be honest. A single hegemonic state in the world with no balance of power is a scary prospect.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:15 pm**

Guiscard wrote:
Jamie wrote:Contribute??? When the US invaded Berlin in 1943, Hitler was two weeks away from having the Atomic bomb first. How would history have turned out if that had happened. Whenever there is a disaster somewhere in the world, even in a hostile country, who's the first to render aid, the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. After 9/11 the Iranians were dancing in the street CELEBRATING the deaths of 3,000 men, women, and children, simply because they were christian Americans. A few months later, when Iran suffered through an earthquake that killed 20,000 Iranians, we didn't celebrate, or gloat, or rejoice in the deaths of 20,000 muslims. Red cross was there THE NEXT DAY, with relief supplies. When London was bombed, Red Cross was right there. Don't tell me the US doesn't contribute. The US military may stick it's nose where it doesn't belong at times *cough* Iraq *cough*. That would be our stupid warmonger presidents fault. Despite our redneck president, we are there whenever disaster strikes another country. When a tsunami devestated the Indian Ocean, killing 250,000 people, the US raised over 16 Billion dollars in relief funds, as well as sending Red Cross out to assist the survivors. I myself purchased several dozen bottles of water to be sent over to Indonesia. We may seem arrogant at times, but hearing about the plights in other countries, and misfortunes, we sometimes just feel so damn lucky to live here, and we get up on a high horse at times. We are proud of our country, and we'll let the whole world know it. Don't tell me the US doesn't contribute. We contribute more than any other country is even capable, and if your country ever suffers a calamity of some kind, we'll be right there to help in your time of need. If a tidal wave wiped out the eastern seaboard of the US, killing millions, how many countries would send help for us?

That chart shows the overall aid contribution as a percentage of national income.

Percentage of national income. That says it all. The US is one of the richest if not thge richest country in the world. So in actual dollar amounts, the US gives more. Perhaps if the US didn't spend 200 Billion a year on NASA, and 200 Billion more on our military budget we could give a higher percentage, but still the US gives alot of money to relief efforts across the globe. While I'm thinking about it, how is that Somolia, and Ethiopia, two muslim countries with no resources, whos entire populations are starving to death has enough money to buy warplanes, and attack eachother with them, and what reason would they have to attack eachother?

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:29 pm**

Jamie wrote:Percentage of national income. That says it all. The US is one of the richest if not thge richest country in the world. So in actual dollar amounts, the US gives more. Perhaps if the US didn't spend 200 Billion a year on NASA, and 200 Billion more on our military budget we could give a higher percentage, but still the US gives alot of money to relief efforts across the globe.

How does a fluctuation from NASA funds to Military funds enable us to give more money?

While I'm thinking about it, how is that Somolia, and Ethiopia, two muslim countries with no resources, whos entire populations are starving to death has enough money to buy warplanes, and attack eachother with them, and what reason would they have to attack eachother?

Actually, Ethiopia is a predominately Christian composed nation, and hasn't experienced major economic or agricultural hardship for over a decade. Secondly, Somalia is not so much a state in itself, but rather a conglomeration of local warlords, on one side being the secular UN backed warlords, and the other the Muslim warlords. To say that Somalia would spend it's money on war machines then agriculture is a grave intellectual injustice, considering that there is no central government, and most of what is purchased and sold occurs through private transactions.

You really need to stop writing out shit that has absolutely no factual value.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:48 pm**

D.IsleRealBrown wrote:
tmidgley wrote:
D.IsleRealBrown wrote:You guys are seriously starting to piss me off. Why don't you get off your fucking high horses and contribute something to society for once instead of just stealing knowledge and wealth from 3rd world countries. All you're good for is hate and pron.

Seriously, f*ck off!

My dick is bigger then yours, get over it you fuckin ass wipe. People like you should be loaded on a rocket and shoved up Oprah's ass....

lol, midgets like yourself make me laugh.

Nice use of "then" btw, fucking dipshit.

ahhh...nice comeback with gramar... I bet you use spellchecker two huh commie?

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:53 pm**

ahhhh.....oooooo.....oooohhhhh....."spellchecker", "gramar"......pwnage overload...somebody call the bomb squad quick!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:54 pm**

tmidgley wrote:
D.IsleRealBrown wrote:
tmidgley wrote:
D.IsleRealBrown wrote:You guys are seriously starting to piss me off. Why don't you get off your fucking high horses and contribute something to society for once instead of just stealing knowledge and wealth from 3rd world countries. All you're good for is hate and pron.

Seriously, f*ck off!

My dick is bigger then yours, get over it you fuckin ass wipe. People like you should be loaded on a rocket and shoved up Oprah's ass....

lol, midgets like yourself make me laugh.

Nice use of "then" btw, fucking dipshit.

ahhh...nice comeback with gramar... I bet you use spellchecker two huh commie?

Yeah, you tell him. Damn Communists with their lar-de-dar vocabulary and their accurate use of grammar, spelling and punctuation. They will try anything and everything to undermine that great country of yours.

Why don't you throw in a couple of f*ck you's and really tell him where it's at.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:58 pm**

Guiscard wrote:I'd be quite happy for America not to be the hand that feeds me to be honest. A single hegemonic state in the world with no balance of power is a scary prospect.

Yes, the hand that feeds you too!

England would be in a world of shit if it didn't have the US as an ally during the last century!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:00 pm**

DewyDew wrote:
Guiscard wrote:I'd be quite happy for America not to be the hand that feeds me to be honest. A single hegemonic state in the world with no balance of power is a scary prospect.

Yes, the hand that feeds you too!

England would be in a world of shit if it didn't have the US as an ally during the last century!

Strikes me that we are all in a world of shit anyway.

Thanks.

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:03 pm**

tonywalrus wrote:
DewyDew wrote:
Guiscard wrote:I'd be quite happy for America not to be the hand that feeds me to be honest. A single hegemonic state in the world with no balance of power is a scary prospect.

Yes, the hand that feeds you too!

England would be in a world of shit if it didn't have the US as an ally during the last century!

Strikes me that we are all in a world of shit anyway.

Thanks.

Lol Mr. Walrus, it does seem that way sometimes!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:41 pm**

God bless america, the land that i LOVEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:45 pm**

Typical american^

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:57 pm**

Kayla wrote:God bless america, the land that i LOVEEEEEEEEEEE

Stand beside her...and guide her....through the night with the light from above!

Posted: **Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:16 pm**

From the mountains, to the prairies, To the oceans, white with foooooaaaaaammmmmm
God bless America, My home sweeeeeeeet hoooooooooooooomeeee

TY TY, TY VERY MUCH

America is the best, get over it

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