Conquer Club

comic boy wrote:

svtoflord wrote:
That's if you're jumping to conclusions. I bet it's probably a dead end unless you can find any sort of hint that he is like what he has done and what he believes. I doubt you'll find anything though since I bet most of the stuff in Revelations has already happened.

Given the broad nature of the prophesies it would be fairly remarkable if in 2000 years of history one could not loosely link one or another event with them.
There are plenty of so called clairvoyants today fleecing the gullible on the back of a rudimentary knowledge of thought association, its pretty easy to be led where you want to go.
I doubt though that even the most incompetent of fraudsters would claim a link between the Boxing day Tsunami and the AntiChrist, most of the victims being Muslim or Budhist and therefore perhaps not the most obvious target.

If you two ever read it, you'd know that most of the prophecies within could not have happened in the past, we did not have the technology for them to be fulfilled. Example: The Army of the East crossing the Euphrates River. This would have been impossible until they built the dam on the Euphrates in order to stop the flow of water and dry up the river bed.

It's easy to dismiss stuff when you have never read it.


and the list goes on:

An Earthquake like the world has never experienced before.... "no stone will be left on another".

"they will be given a mark on their right hand or their forehead"

"they will wish for death but death shall not find them"

"the moon will turn blood red"

"the sun will not give it's light"


Yeah all this has already happened (if you drop acid)

jay_a2j wrote:If you two ever read it, you'd know that most of the prophecies within could not have happened in the past, we did not have the technology for them to be fulfilled. Example: The Army of the East crossing the Euphrates River. This would have been impossible until they built the dam on the Euphrates in order to stop the flow of water and dry up the river bed.

It's easy to dismiss stuff when you have never read it.

And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

jay_a2j wrote:

comic boy wrote:

svtoflord wrote:
That's if you're jumping to conclusions. I bet it's probably a dead end unless you can find any sort of hint that he is like what he has done and what he believes. I doubt you'll find anything though since I bet most of the stuff in Revelations has already happened.

Given the broad nature of the prophesies it would be fairly remarkable if in 2000 years of history one could not loosely link one or another event with them.
There are plenty of so called clairvoyants today fleecing the gullible on the back of a rudimentary knowledge of thought association, its pretty easy to be led where you want to go.
I doubt though that even the most incompetent of fraudsters would claim a link between the Boxing day Tsunami and the AntiChrist, most of the victims being Muslim or Budhist and therefore perhaps not the most obvious target.

If you two ever read it, you'd know that most of the prophecies within could not have happened in the past, we did not have the technology for them to be fulfilled. Example: The Army of the East crossing the Euphrates River. This would have been impossible until they built the dam on the Euphrates in order to stop the flow of water and dry up the river bed.

It's easy to dismiss stuff when you have never read it.


and the list goes on:

An Earthquake like the world has never experienced before.... "no stone will be left on another".

"they will be given a mark on their right hand or their forehead"

"they will wish for death but death shall not find them"

"the moon will turn blood red"

"the sun will not give it's light"


Yeah all this has already happened (if you drop acid)

Well put.

jay_a2j wrote:If you two ever read it, you'd know that most of the prophecies within could not have happened in the past, we did not have the technology for them to be fulfilled. Example: The Army of the East crossing the Euphrates River. This would have been impossible until they built the dam on the Euphrates in order to stop the flow of water and dry up the river bed.

It's easy to dismiss stuff when you have never read it.


and the list goes on:

An Earthquake like the world has never experienced before.... "no stone will be left on another".

"they will be given a mark on their right hand or their forehead"

"they will wish for death but death shall not find them"

"the moon will turn blood red"

"the sun will not give it's light"


Yeah all this has already happened (if you drop acid)

Those have happened before.

Nazis in WW2 put marks on the Jews' arms.

The moon turning red:

wow jay, you really know your bible well

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

yes....too much Bible reading can harm you jay...everything in moderation reach for the ol' Catechism once in a while, and leave the Bibel to Church fathers.... [/14th century mode]

Blitzaholic wrote:wow jay, you really know your bible well

Yep he spends his life reading the bible and hunting out internet conspiracy stories......sad isnt it

Wonder where in Revelations though it explains which prophecies are waiting on technologicl advance and which are going to be happen through miracles, Jay seems to know

unriggable wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:If you two ever read it, you'd know that most of the prophecies within could not have happened in the past, we did not have the technology for them to be fulfilled. Example: The Army of the East crossing the Euphrates River. This would have been impossible until they built the dam on the Euphrates in order to stop the flow of water and dry up the river bed.

It's easy to dismiss stuff when you have never read it.


and the list goes on:

An Earthquake like the world has never experienced before.... "no stone will be left on another".

"they will be given a mark on their right hand or their forehead"

"they will wish for death but death shall not find them"

"the moon will turn blood red"

"the sun will not give it's light"


Yeah all this has already happened (if you drop acid)

Those have happened before.

Nazis in WW2 put marks on the Jews' arms.

The moon turning red:

Can you tell us what mark the Jews had put on their arms and better yet can you tell us why you think that the moon is red in that picture.

It's alright if you don't know because nobody expects too much out of you anyway.

Gregrios wrote:Can you tell us what mark the Jews had put on their arms and better yet can you tell us why you think that the moon is red in that picture.

It's alright if you don't know because nobody expects too much out of you anyway.

Fine, see if you can read all this. The reason the moon is red is because the atmosphere of the earth, specifically the higher layers like the ozone layer, absorb the higher wavelengths, mainly violet, ultraviolet, etc. (if you've ever gone outside, you should know this). The atmosphere as you know does not cast a shadow on the moon. So when the earth gets between the moon and sun, as we know light bends to gravity, but since the violet does not get through the atmosphere and the red does, it gives the moon a red tint. You get all of that? Good.

As for jews and their marks, google.

unriggable wrote:

Gregrios wrote:Can you tell us what mark the Jews had put on their arms and better yet can you tell us why you think that the moon is red in that picture.

It's alright if you don't know because nobody expects too much out of you anyway.

Fine, see if you can read all this. The reason the moon is red is because the atmosphere of the earth, specifically the higher layers like the ozone layer, absorb the higher wavelengths, mainly violet, ultraviolet, etc. (if you've ever gone outside, you should know this). The atmosphere as you know does not cast a shadow on the moon. So when the earth gets between the moon and sun, as we know light bends to gravity, but since the violet does not get through the atmosphere and the red does, it gives the moon a red tint. You get all of that? Good.

As for jews and their marks, google.

You sure did put alot of work into that answer but you've failed to answer me. Either question that is. You might want to try reading my questions again or are you just avoiding the questions because you know that your theory has a shit load of holes in it. Inquiring minds are waiting.

Gregrios wrote:You sure did put alot of work into that answer but you've failed to answer me. Either question that is. You might want to try reading my questions again or are you just avoiding the questions because you know that your theory has a shit load of holes in it. Inquiring minds are waiting.

"the moon will turn blood red"

Lunar Eclipse, happens often.
http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=2197

"they will be given a mark on their right hand or their forehead"

Jews entering Auschwitz were tattooed on their arms and hands with their serial number.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?la ... d=10007056

"they will wish for death but death shall not find them"

The rise of the Emo movement, My Chemical Romance fans, et. al.

An Earthquake like the world has never experienced before.... "no stone will be left on another".

We've had several earthquakes over the span of the Earth's life, each of them the worst ever at the time.

"the sun will not give it's light"

Solar Eclipse, happens every once in a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Eclipse


Got any more?

Gregrios wrote:

unriggable wrote:

Gregrios wrote:Can you tell us what mark the Jews had put on their arms and better yet can you tell us why you think that the moon is red in that picture.

It's alright if you don't know because nobody expects too much out of you anyway.

Fine, see if you can read all this. The reason the moon is red is because the atmosphere of the earth, specifically the higher layers like the ozone layer, absorb the higher wavelengths, mainly violet, ultraviolet, etc. (if you've ever gone outside, you should know this). The atmosphere as you know does not cast a shadow on the moon. So when the earth gets between the moon and sun, as we know light bends to gravity, but since the violet does not get through the atmosphere and the red does, it gives the moon a red tint. You get all of that? Good.

As for jews and their marks, google.

You sure did put alot of work into that answer but you've failed to answer me. Either question that is. You might want to try reading my questions again or are you just avoiding the questions because you know that your theory has a shit load of holes in it. Inquiring minds are waiting.

You really disappoint me. Bold - reread.

jay_a2j wrote:If you two ever read it, you'd know that most of the prophecies within could not have happened in the past, we did not have the technology for them to be fulfilled. Example: The Army of the East crossing the Euphrates River. This would have been impossible until they built the dam on the Euphrates in order to stop the flow of water and dry up the river bed.

Jay, are you trying to imply that way way back they didn't have boats?

Armies can travel on boats.

How do you think the armies got to Troy?

vtmarik wrote:How do you think the armies got to Troy?

Skiing, duh.

unriggable wrote:

vtmarik wrote:How do you think the armies got to Troy?

Skiing, duh.

Did you get the same visual image I did? A group of soldiers at a riverbank, scratching their heads, "Damn, this river has blocked our march. If only we had some kind of device that would allow us to float across water. But alas, there is no such thing."
"My lord, Samuel strapped wooden planks to his feet and scooted across!"
"Everyone, grab planks, Samuel's got it!"

vtmarik wrote:

unriggable wrote:

vtmarik wrote:How do you think the armies got to Troy?

Skiing, duh.

Did you get the same visual image I did? A group of soldiers at a riverbank, scratching their heads, "Damn, this river has blocked our march. If only we had some kind of device that would allow us to float across water. But alas, there is no such thing."
"My lord, Samuel strapped wooden planks to his feet and scooted across!"
"Everyone, grab planks, Samuel's got it!"

In my mind his name was Herbert but yeah, same idea.

comic boy wrote:

Blitzaholic wrote:wow jay, you really know your bible well

Yep he spends his life reading the bible and hunting out internet conspiracy stories......sad isnt it

Wonder where in Revelations though it explains which prophecies are waiting on technologicl advance and which are going to be happen through miracles, Jay seems to know

i don't know if it is sad, it can be spiritual and fulfilling to some, to each their own m8

Blitzaholic wrote:

comic boy wrote:

Blitzaholic wrote:wow jay, you really know your bible well

Yep he spends his life reading the bible and hunting out internet conspiracy stories......sad isnt it

Wonder where in Revelations though it explains which prophecies are waiting on technologicl advance and which are going to be happen through miracles, Jay seems to know

i don't know if it is sad, it can be spiritual and fulfilling to some, to each their own m8

Well the internet conspiracy fixation is definitely sad
I was not inferring that reading the bible was sad in itself,as you say many recieve solace from doing so, but reading it and learning/understanding nothing is pretty sad.

jay_a2j wrote:

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

Prove it without using your Bible that it actually happened.

unriggable wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

Prove it without using your Bible that it actually happened.

jay_a2j wrote:

unriggable wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

Prove it without using your Bible that it actually happened.

unriggable wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

Prove it without using your Bible that it actually happened.

How about I prove it. I've heard of a volcano erupted several hundreds of miles away. It destroyed a civilization and was somehow connected to the river. The blood of all of those people went down the river turning it into blood. This cannot be a coincidence if this valcano story is true..

svtoflord wrote:

unriggable wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

Prove it without using your Bible that it actually happened.

How about I prove it. I've heard of a volcano erupted several hundreds of miles away. It destroyed a civilization and was somehow connected to the river. The blood of all of those people went down the river turning it into blood. This cannot be a coincidence if this valcano story is true..

Blood burns, buddy, it's an organic molecule. It becomes a scab-like substance when the water from the cells and the plasma evaporates. It's not like blood was everywhere after the incident in Pompeii...

FYI I was talking about parting the red sea. Seeing as how jay can't provide any evidence whatsoever, I'll assume he conceded, which he obviously didn't.

svtoflord wrote:

unriggable wrote:

jay_a2j wrote:

Guiscard wrote:And remind me exactly how Moses crossed the Red Sea... Was a dam involved then?

That was a miracle by God. God parted the Red Sea when Moses lifted his staff. No dam involved here.

Prove it without using your Bible that it actually happened.

How about I prove it. I've heard of a volcano erupted several hundreds of miles away. It destroyed a civilization and was somehow connected to the river. The blood of all of those people went down the river turning it into blood. This cannot be a coincidence if this valcano story is true..

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