Conquer Club

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:12 am**

targetman377 wrote:the things we are doing will not kill them maybe in extreme cases but we do not just excute people for information. we put them in situations that people do not like at all. ok and as for i do not belive in waterboard another contry that plays by the rules of war. if russia and u.s. got into a war and each side played by the rules of war torturing there soldiers is compleatly imoral. but terrist do not deserve this same right. keep in mind these are the same people that are willing to strap a bomb to themselves and kill incent kids and women ( and they do this alot look at iraq in a middle of a market come on!) and THEMSELVES OK!!! if they are willing to kill themselves to kill one of the u.s. soldiers and also kill the incent they can be tortured all we want they place no value on there life so why should we?? in a conventianal war soldiers do not kill incent civilians. ON PURPOSE!!!!! cause i know all of you in a mintue you will be like look how many cilvians we kill thouse are accdents. ok.

sweet jesus you are awful

does it physically hurt to be this stupid, or is it just emotionally agonizing

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:16 am**

You're stupid..

..Stupid

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:23 am**

GabonX wrote:Did not answer question

If you mean who actually dropped the bombs it was largely a private company called 'Air America '.......owned and run by :lol:

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:38 am**

joecoolfrog wrote:
GabonX wrote:Did not answer question

If you mean who actually dropped the bombs it was largely a private company called 'Air America '.......owned and run by

By who? The Joker?

Link Please

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:59 am**

GabonX wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:
GabonX wrote:Did not answer question

If you mean who actually dropped the bombs it was largely a private company called 'Air America '.......owned and run by

By who? The Joker?

Link Please

You are commenting on Indochina and you have never heard of Air America........

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:02 am**

joecoolfrog wrote:
GabonX wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:
GabonX wrote:Did not answer question

If you mean who actually dropped the bombs it was largely a private company called 'Air America '.......owned and run by

By who? The Joker?

Link Please

You are commenting on Indochina and you have never heard of Air America........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-America-(airline)

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Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:08 am**

Yoy need me to tell you how to use google as well ?

Try CIA dirty tricks in Indochina
Illegal bombing of Cambodia and Laos
Air America

You might just actually learn some history :lol:

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:09 am**

Tried that, about ready to call BS..

..This falls on you to prove, not I

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:13 am**

joecoolfrog wrote:Yoy need me to tell you how to use google as well ?

Try CIA dirty tricks in Indochina
Illegal bombing of Cambodia and Laos
Air America

You might just actually learn some history

Coward, editing post after the fact..

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:15 am**

GabonX wrote:Tried that, about ready to call BS..

..This falls on you to prove, not I

Prove that you know nothing about the subject...I already have :lol:

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:16 am**

GabonX wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:Yoy need me to tell you how to use google as well ?

Try CIA dirty tricks in Indochina
Illegal bombing of Cambodia and Laos
Air America

You might just actually learn some history

Coward, editing post after the fact..

I deleted a link that didnt work......the info is there though as you know ...pretty obvious who the coward is

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:17 am**

joecoolfrog wrote:
GabonX wrote::roll:

Exactly what would the CIA use to "carpet bomb" a given party? I think you're a bit confused as to who is who and who has what.

The CIA organised the so called ' Dirty Tricks ' campaign in Indochina , part of which was the most sustained use of carpet bombing ever seen.......learn the history before you make an even bigger fool of yourself

GabonX wrote:Did not answer question

Point is that this was not the CIA. You cannot find something to prove this because it isn't true.

You are the one who needs to learn history before making claims.

Not I.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:32 am**

GabonX wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:
GabonX wrote::roll:

Exactly what would the CIA use to "carpet bomb" a given party? I think you're a bit confused as to who is who and who has what.

The CIA organised the so called ' Dirty Tricks ' campaign in Indochina , part of which was the most sustained use of carpet bombing ever seen.......learn the history before you make an even bigger fool of yourself
GabonX wrote:Did not answer question

Point is that this was not the CIA. You cannot find something to prove this because it isn't true.

You are the one who needs to learn history before making claims.

Not I.

www.bombharvest.com/background.html

The CIA was not responsible for dirty tricks in Indochina.....you are laughable

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:51 am**

Your source is a film synopsis? From what little I've read, the film has been criticized...

The CIA is an intelligence gathering agency. In addition, they do sometimes take action inside of countries. They do not however have bombers..

Cambodia and Laos were both bombed with B-52 model airplanes. There were no B-52s in the Air America fleet.

List of Air America plains
http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/AirAmerica/B ... merica.htm

You confuse the CIA with the DOD, so did your source.

Alphebet Soup..

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:08 am**

joecoolfrog wrote:The CIA was not responsible for dirty tricks in Indochina.....you are laughable

I believe the "secret organization" that was responsible for all the dirty tricks in Indochina was the NIXON. Not sure what that stood for but...........It sure f*cked America up!!!!!

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:45 am**

GabonX wrote:Your source is a film synopsis? From what little I've read, the film has been criticized...

The CIA is an intelligence gathering agency. In addition, they do sometimes take action inside of countries. They do not however have bombers..

Cambodia and Laos were both bombed with B-52 model airplanes. There were no B-52s in the Air America fleet.

List of Air America plains
http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/AirAmerica/B ... merica.htm

You confuse the CIA with the DOD, so did your source.

Alphebet Soup..

1) Who owned and controlled Air America ?
2) Who built all the air strips in Laos ?
3) The B52 airstrikes were authorised by Nixon in 1971, previous to that who organised covert and illegal bombings in Laos ?

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:54 am**

joecoolfrog wrote:1) Who owned and controlled Air America ?
Nobody owns America and nobody has complete control
2) Who built all the air strips in Laos ?
I don't know, but anyways..It's irrelevant
3) The B52 airstrikes were authorised by Nixon in 1971, previous to that who organised covert and illegal bombings in Laos ?
This is the roll of the military, hence, the DOD

Kind of silly to call this "illegal"
All is fair in love and war

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:03 am**

GabonX wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:1) Who owned and controlled Air America ?
Nobody owns America and nobody has complete control
2) Who built all the air strips in Laos ?
I don't know, but anyways..It's irrelevant
3) The B52 airstrikes were authorised by Nixon in 1971, previous to that who organised covert and illegal bombings in Laos ?
This is the roll of the military, hence, the DOD

Kind of silly to call this "illegal"
All is fair in love and war

1) Answer the question
2) If you dont know then you cant say how relevant it is can you.....it was the CIA incidently
3) Illegal for the very reason that the US was NOT at war with Laos and consequently it was NOT the roll of the military.

As I said before, try to learn something of a subject before commenting, you might then have a grain of credibility.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:20 am**

There is no answer to the first question. You might as well ask me "who owns and controls the sun?" and demand an answer for that.

So what if the CIA built some air strips? With the range of the B-52 (unlimited as it can be refueled in the air) they could have been making bombing runs in Indo China from India like they did with the B-29 in WW2. The fact is that the bombings were done by airplanes that were not under CIA control as the bombings were done with B-52s and there were no B-52s under CIA control.

Bombers were maintained by the military, hence, the DOD. Even if DOD airplanes used CIA made air strips it does not change this fact.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:30 am**

neanderpaul14 wrote:
joecoolfrog wrote:The CIA was not responsible for dirty tricks in Indochina.....you are laughable

I believe the "secret organization" that was responsible for all the dirty tricks in Indochina was the NIXON. Not sure what that stood for but...........It sure f*cked America up!!!!!

It was the CIA and it led to the genocide in Cambodia :cry:

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:32 am**

America pulling out of Vietnam prematurely is what led to genocide in Cambodia...

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:46 am**

GabonX wrote:There is no answer to the first question. You might as well ask me "who owns and controls the sun?" and demand an answer for that.

So what if the CIA built some air strips? With the range of the B-52 (unlimited as it can be refueled in the air) they could have been making bombing runs in Indo China from India like they did with the B-29 in WW2. The fact is that the bombings were done by airplanes that were not under CIA control as the bombings were done with B-52s and there were no B-52s under CIA control.

Bombers were maintained by the military, hence, the DOD. Even if DOD airplanes used CIA made air strips it does not change this fact.

If you think being obtuse is disguising the fact that you have no knowledge of the subject then you are mistaken.

1) Air America was an airline operational in Laos so answer the question.
2) The CIA built air strips to service the planes they were operating, these were used to assist the Hmong.
3) The bombings were illegal which is why the CIA controlled operations, certainly pre 1971, neither the military nor the politicians could be seen to be implicated. It is unlikely that we shall ever know just how involved the White House or even the Pentagon were but to suggest that the CIA were not in the thick of it is nonsense.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:49 am**

GabonX wrote:America pulling out of Vietnam prematurely is what led to genocide in Cambodia...

I think the fact that you have shown zero understanding or knowledge of the subject puts that statement into perspective :lol:

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:53 am**

You claimed that the CIA "carpet bombed" an area.

You refuse to address the fact that the CIA did not have bombers. The airplanes used were not under CIA control. I've proved this and you ignore it.

In addition, it looks like you got your information from a biased and un-credible film.

Posted: **Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:08 am**

GabonX wrote:You claimed that the CIA "carpet bombed" an area.

You refuse to address the fact that the CIA did not have bombers. The airplanes used were not under CIA control. I've proved this and you ignore it.

In addition, it looks like you got your information from a biased and un-credible film.

No I said " The CIA organised the so called 'dirty tricks ' campaign in Indochina which included carpet bombing ''

How dense are you...
You have proved nothing, refuted nothing, provided no links that suggest that the CIA did not control the secret war in Laos.... The Military and the White House didnt want to know , find me any link that shows otherwise ,you are totaly PWNED

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