Conquer Club

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

I think chicken pox is fairly harmless as long as you get it early in life.

captain.crazy wrote: who is the drizzle?

Who is he?!?!???!?!?!!!!!

MeDeFe wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

I think chicken pox is fairly harmless as long as you get it early in life.

Yeah, I think so too, maybe it's only in adults that chicken pox can leave scars. I dunno. I'm probably mistaken.

jonesthecurl wrote:Incidentally, you're never too young to get chickenpox. I don't know about the others.
My daughter got chickenpox at about 18 months. The boy at 3.
They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

Good point!

Chicken pox vaccinations are required in the US now, but it is one I definitely do question. For one thing, are we leaving our kids open to future cases of shingles?

I do agree on one point made earlier. We should not try to eradicate all diseases. In fact, there is a growing body of evidence that keeping young, healthy children in these hyper clean environments is one reason they get so many more allergies now. The thinking is that early mild illnesses somehow "kickstart babies' immune systems and that allergies come about because the immune system (to be oversimplistic about it) doesn't get its initial boost. This is even aside from the fact that many cleaners are probably more harmful than the diseases they are supposed to prevent.

The best thing you can do is wash your hands the surfaces people touch frequently and let them DRY thoroughly. Few germs survive long in a dry environment.

I got it in 3rd or 4th grade.

pimpdave wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

I think chicken pox is fairly harmless as long as you get it early in life.

Yeah, I think so too, maybe it's only in adults that chicken pox can leave scars. I dunno. I'm probably mistaken.

Chicken pox can have serious complications, but the frequency is fewer than in measles, etc. Also, the younger a person gets it, the milder it tends to be.

Many little kids/infants have what looks like just a few tiny bumps (looks about like "baby achne", though unrelated). Adult men get the worst, of course.. you can become sterile.

captain.crazy wrote:

The1exile wrote:

captain.crazy wrote:...which I think of as shaking a hand, or touching a door knob that someone else may have touched who happened to have hep b...

...and "what I think of as" appears not to correlate to "what you meant at all", at least on this forum.

eh? If you re-read the post, you should read that I was talking about the fact that hep b is not "casually" contracted as PLAYER was suggesting. Rather, that it is not something that should have its vaccine pushed in mass upon the people.

Hepatitis B is prevalent and kills. There is no cure. The risks from a vaccination, by contrast, are pretty slim. When the benefits (not dying) so outweight the very slim risk of complications.. vaccination is warranted.

As for the contact.. Let me clarify. You cannot get Hepatitis B by coughing or shaking hands, etc. I have been told it is more readily transmitted than HIV, but I am not going to argue that point. There is a vaccine which will and is saving the lives of kids. That is enough reason for me!

PLAYER57832 wrote: Hepatitis B is prevalent and kills. There is no cure. The risks from a vaccination, by contrast, are pretty slim. When the benefits (not dying) so outweight the very slim risk of complications.. vaccination is warranted.

As for the contact.. Let me clarify. You cannot get Hepatitis B by coughing or shaking hands, etc. I have been told it is more readily transmitted than HIV, but I am not going to argue that point. There is a vaccine which will and is saving the lives of kids. That is enough reason for me!

Perhaps the argument could be made to administer the vaccine if you lived in a village where your kids routinely played in open sewage, but if this is not the case, then why would you risk the adverse effects, which include arthritis, and sometimes death. If you don't need it, why get it?

MeDeFe wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

I think chicken pox is fairly harmless as long as you get it early in life.

Except if you get chickenpox as a child you are very likely to get shingles as an elder adult. PAIN.

mpjh wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

I think chicken pox is fairly harmless as long as you get it early in life.

Except if you get chickenpox as a child you are very likely to get shingles as an elder adult. PAIN.

I had the shingles at 17 (about 5 months ago).

Pain, yeah. Maybe my case was mild, but it wasn't exactly waterboarding.

mpjh wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

I think chicken pox is fairly harmless as long as you get it early in life.

Except if you get chickenpox as a child you are very likely to get shingles as an elder adult. PAIN.

And you do not want that.... look at what it did to these poor people:

http://www.shinglesinfo.com/index.html? ... c_id=SH04K

they seem to have been turned into stupid zombies...

Its bio engineered, definitely manufactured and Baxter is in on the fun.

http://www.jesuslives.co.za/2009/03/06/ ... n-flu-vir/

pimpdave wrote:

jonesthecurl wrote:They don't innoculate against it in the UK, and everyone gets it. I'venever heard of it as being considered more than a nuisance (unlike measles, mumps, rubella, etc).

They inoculate here in the US and A?

And I thought that chicken pox did have the capability of leaving nasty scars... But I could be mistaken.

It does, Not usually dreadful though - more like freckles.

just not sure why people are so scared........for one i'm not

every year 35,000 people die in the usa from flu.

i don't think it is as bad as they say it is,no one has died yet from the flu in the usa.

And do we really need the nation guard protecting secret warehouses with the flu vaccine,,,,,what a waste of money

I really don't think anyone is going to go and break into these warehouses

Well, in a month you will either be a smug "I told you so" or one surprised sob.

karel wrote: i don't think it is as bad as they say it is,no one has died yet from the flu in the usa.

People have died in the US. A toddler in Texas, others to come. However, so far we have been lucky.

Why the scare? Google Spanish Flu and you will have your answer.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble. Here is a link:
http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

only 1 death and the kid was not even from the usa,he came from mexico to usa for treatment.

Just me,but i think they are blowing this all out,to put fear into people,me for i'm not worried about it.

I have never gotten the flu shot and plan on never geting the shot,due to i have not had the flu in over 12 years

Bring 'em on!

My liberal immune system will crush those foreign invader viruses.

MeDeFe wrote:Bring 'em on!

My liberal immune system will crush those foreign invader viruses.

In Soviet Russia, flu catches you.

Bullshit conspiracy plots......secret warehouses full of anti-viral meds, goverment controling the masses with panic....

Give me a God-damned break.

It more that likely won't happen with this outbreak, but it COULD happen, and in time, history dictated that it WILL happen.

So the messures that seem silly now, might just save your ass later.

JRock

nagerous wrote:

That was a good one nagerous..lmao

karel wrote:That was a good one nagerous..lmao

me too.


Madaga-scared huh?
A challenger appears!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090429/ap_ ... _swine_flu

Egypt began slaughtering the roughly 300,000 pigs in the country Wednesday as a precautionary measure against the spread of swine flu even though no cases have been reported here yet, the Health Ministry said.

PLAYER57832 wrote:

karel wrote: i don't think it is as bad as they say it is,no one has died yet from the flu in the usa.

People have died in the US. A toddler in Texas, others to come. However, so far we have been lucky.

Why the scare? Google Spanish Flu and you will have your answer.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble. Here is a link:
http://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

So the fact that the mortality rate being only 2.5 to 5 percent of people that were infected doesn't tell you something? You mean to tell me that the people were so poorly tuned into cleanliness standards right after WWI, and that they were all in such diminished physical shape, by and large, did not play a significant role in transmission of the disease, not to mention the fact that people were so widely moving about due to the war efforts, lending to wide spread exposure?