Conquer Club

XenHu wrote:

XenHu wrote:

What if one of someone has be granted a manipulation role{/quote]

Oops, I meant 'what if someone'..




-X

Xenhu just wondering did you think you were typing this to one of your mafia buddies for a second.




man i'm starting to suspect everyone this is insane!!

trestain wrote:

XenHu wrote:

XenHu wrote:

What if one of someone has be granted a manipulation role{/quote]

Oops, I meant 'what if someone'..




-X

Xenhu just wondering did you think you were typing this to one of your mafia buddies for a second.




man i'm starting to suspect everyone this is insane!!

No, I'm not mafia... The original post by me was to read like this:

'What if one of us townies has been granted a manipulation role?'..

Looking back however I realized that the mafia can get these roles as well.. I simply forgot to delete the 'one' in 'one of us'..

C'mon, I'm dumb at this game, but I know if I'm writing a PM or not..

-X

trestain wrote:

XenHu wrote:

XenHu wrote:

What if one of someone has be granted a manipulation role{/quote]

Oops, I meant 'what if someone'..




-X

Xenhu just wondering did you think you were typing this to one of your mafia buddies for a second.




man i'm starting to suspect everyone this is insane!!

I had Mr para last game. Stop and think fella.

There are 4 peeps I don't trust at the mo, waiting for a few to post before I name and shame.

no worries Xen... it's hard to get used to the "no edit" rule at first. I still struggle with that, as I typically edit my posts alot!! lol

FOS: Trestain

-He's too quiet for my taste


-Assuming we go by the logic of four mafia, one in each zone plus one extra, he could be the mafia in the Towers..

-Bogus said:

Bogusbet wrote:Trestain, you worry me, not sure why yet I cant pin, convince me fella.

And instead of proving his innocence, he was quick to jump on me..

trestain wrote:
Xenhu just wondering did you think you were typing this to one of your mafia buddies for a second.

Just my two cents.. I may very well upgrade to a vote soon..

-X

Funny how you guys are quick to jump on Trestain for basically no reason, when I've posted a 1/2 page of reasons against Houssam, and have yet to hear comments? I know I talk alot, but sheesh, there's no way you could've missed THAT.

wicked wrote:Funny how you guys are quick to jump on Trestain for basically no reason, when I've posted a 1/2 page of reasons against Houssam, and have yet to hear comments? I know I talk alot, but sheesh, there's no way you could've missed THAT.

I saw it and I was considering it..


However you made the point of me jumping on the bandwagon too much...

So I though I'd make my own choice(and reason)

(I still suspect Houssam)..


-X

wicked wrote:Funny how you guys are quick to jump on Trestain for basically no reason, when I've posted a 1/2 page of reasons against Houssam, and have yet to hear comments? I know I talk alot, but sheesh, there's no way you could've missed THAT.

There is more that one left Wicked, you know the 3 I don't suspect, you've named more than one that I do. Lets not focus on one, it will leave us more to do next round.

BTW I'm trusting on a hunch here.

lol

wicked wrote:lol

Indeed LOL.

XenHu wrote:FOS: Trestain

-He's too quiet for my taste


-Assuming we go by the logic of four mafia, one in each zone plus one extra, he could be the mafia in the Towers..

-Bogus said:

Bogusbet wrote:Trestain, you worry me, not sure why yet I cant pin, convince me fella.

And instead of proving his innocence, he was quick to jump on me..

trestain wrote:
Xenhu just wondering did you think you were typing this to one of your mafia buddies for a second.

Just my two cents.. I may very well upgrade to a vote soon..

-X

First up too quiet i have posted far more than you since day one you will find. Also i have not yet replied to Bogus's allegations because as of yet he has not made any, all he said was he was worried and couldn't pin me.


one question though when i pointed out your wording was you quick to reply with "i know when i'm writing a pm" have you been writing those then heh?

suspected so far,Master Bush
Xenhu

unless convinced otherwise i am going to vote for one of these.

Bogye, most of what we have to go on are hunches.

And I understand what you're saying about where to go in future votes.

the lol was for Xenhu ... about not wanting to jump on the bandwagon.
you fastposted me! grrr!!

tres, do you have anything to back up your suspicions, other than their suspicion of you?

trestain wrote:First up too quiet i have posted far more than you since day one you will find. Also i have not yet replied to Bogus's allegations because as of yet he has not made any, all he said was he was worried and couldn't pin me.

True, but wouldn't you want to show you have a good name anyway? If someone said they were worried about me I would have been right there to defend myself(worries lead to FOS's which lead to votes)

trestain wrote:one question though when i pointed out your wording was you quick to reply with "i know when i'm writing a pm" have you been writing those then heh?

suspected so far,Master Bush
Xenhu

unless convinced otherwise i am going to vote for one of these.

I have been writing PM's.. ( I run a clan you know)...

Just out of curiousity, what do you have against MB?

-X

Here is my run down so far:

bogusbet - Hasn't posted a lot this game. Seems a little different this game not quite as paranoid
dagreatbroomhead - Obviously knows the game well and seems able to lay blame without much questioning of himself.
freetymes - has made some good points today not sure which side he is on yet
Houssam - I think has a FOS toward him I'm interested to see how he responds to wicked's accusations.
Mach - seems to be flying under the radar this game. a different strategy from him.
MB- I don't buy his accusations of treistain with the evidence he presented so that makes him look bad in my book
Rev - the only one that seems trust worthy of the group
treistain - From what i read he seems on the level but he hasn't posted much and isn't defending himself well
xenhu- I am suspicious of him. He seems to be playing the noobie card very hard. and I know from past experience I have told fellow mafia members in past games to play up the fact that they are new and don't know what's going on.

These are my thoughts on everyone at the moment. Let's get some more discussion going on to see what comes out.

wicked wrote:the lol was for Xenhu ... about not wanting to jump on the bandwagon.

I didn't say I didn't want too...

I just said I would try not too(your major complaint against me)..


-X

moz976 wrote:Here is my run down so far:

bogusbet - Hasn't posted a lot this game. Seems a little different this game not quite as paranoid
dagreatbroomhead - Obviously knows the game well and seems able to lay blame without much questioning of himself.
freetymes - has made some good points today not sure which side he is on yet
Houssam - I think has a FOS toward him I'm interested to see how he responds to wicked's accusations.
Mach - seems to be flying under the radar this game. a different strategy from him.
MB- I don't buy his accusations of treistain with the evidence he presented so that makes him look bad in my book
Rev - the only one that seems trust worthy of the group
treistain - From what i read he seems on the level but he hasn't posted much and isn't defending himself well
xenhu- I am suspicious of him. He seems to be playing the noobie card very hard. and I know from past experience I have told fellow mafia members in past games to play up the fact that they are new and don't know what's going on.

These are my thoughts on everyone at the moment. Let's get some more discussion going on to see what comes out.

How about a little read on yourself?

I have stated I am not para boy this game, I jumped alot last game and done more wrong than good cos I didnt like a few peeps and voted them for the hell of it. I wana win this one and with 11 left I got a good shout.

Bogusbet wrote:How about a little read on yourself?

Well I could do a read on myself but I don't think it would help much. I figured everyone else would do a read on me.

OK.. This is going to be long..

Wicked's quotes are in small. My comments in ALL CAPS. If you don't want to go through the whole thing, I invite you to consider this:

She was friends with IC who turned out to be Mafia
She was against Dussle, Cram and Autoload who ALL turned out to be townies (dead townies now)!

She was suspected by all of the dead townies, trusted by IC.

This could all be a big coincidence, sure, with a probability of precisely 1.5 in a gazillion c where c is the speed of light in miles per second!!!

Now read on.


_____________

Now with the 3 separate "colonies", will that affect anything? Does anyone have any new twists to their roles that they can reveal now (w/o fear of a mafia strike)??


cram, we can still talk while we're waiting. helps weed out the mafia.

LOOKING FOR INFO - REMEMBER IF SHE IS MAFIA SHE KNOWS CRAM IS ONE OF US.


wonder if everyone is told they're not infected at first?

MORE INFORMATION FISHING. PARTICULARLY INTERESTING WHEN A FEW PAGES LATER SHE COMES BACK WITH THE VANILLA
TOWNIE THAT QUICKLY BECAME HEALTHY TOWNIE FIASCO
I'm Andre Taylor, owner of the Rock Ridge Inn. Regular vanilla townie


I DID NOT WANT TO QUOTE AN ENTIRE PAGE - BUT PLEASE GO BACK TO PAGE 6 AND MARVEL AT THE FRIENDLY EXCHANGE WITH ICEMAN (WHO WE KNOW IS MAFIA) AT HOW THE INFORMATION SEEMS TO BE FREELY FLOWING BETWEEN TWO VETERAN PLAYERS VERY EARLY ON IN THE GAME WHEN THEY TYPICALLY SHOULD BE VERY GUARDED WITH
THEIR INFORMATION.


the safety zone camp? huh? is that what your role stated?
RED HERRING NUMBER 1

THEN THE MOST ELEGANT RECOVERY I HAVE SEEN
Nowhere in anyone's PM's did it say safety zone or camp (or they would've spoken up by now).
I think I may have thrown out the word camp, because at first I was avoiding using specific words
in my PM (still am actually).



PICKED UP BY ICEMAN A POST LATER
ICEMAN: "Mine doesn't say that"

dussle, I'm curious about your location. Care to explain it in a bit more detail?
FISHING FOR MORE INFO.

does anyone think there's any significance to the townies who were here when the outbreak started,
or came back to town when the outbreak started?

RED HERRING NUMBER 2 - DIDN"T GO ANYWHERE BUT WAS AN ATTEMPT TO THROW US IN ENDLESS CIRCLES.

ANOTHER INTERESTING EXCHANGE BETWEEN WICKED AND OUR ONLY CONFIRMED MAFIA
Wicked: I find I post much less carefully when I'm not mafia.
Iceman: I agree. But I was only mafia for less than one round....

AWWWWWWW ISN'T THAT ADORABLE?


RED HERRING NUMBER THREE:
I don't think so auto... if we don't lynch, we don't kill a possible innocent.

THAT STARTED PAGES OF DISCUSSION ABOUT NO LYNCH VOTES - AND ACTUALLY GOT US 2 VOTES AWAY FROM A NO
LYNCH ON NIGHT ONE - WHICH EVERYONE AGREES WOULD HAVE BEEN STUPID.



NOW THIS IS THE MOST INTERESTING OF ALL. IC IS GOOD - DUSSLE IS BAD - SOME RECORD! OF COURSE IT MAY BE ALL
A BIG COINCIDENCE - UNFORTUNATELY CANNOT ATTRIBUTE THAT TO HER BEING A NOOB EITHER.

don't think there's enough against IC to lynch him right now.

Waiting to hear from dussle; if not soon, my vote goes to him.

JUST A REMINDER - WE SINCE KNOW IC TO BE MAFIA AND DUSSLE TO BE TOWNIE. I'M JUST SAYING!

THEN CLOSELY FLLOWED BY:
no, Andy mentioned that in the opening, that the 3 groups were guarding the locations.

Sorry, dus, not good enough for me...

v*te dussle

NO COMMENT!

AND THIS IS JUST A SIDE NOTE - TO DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES LATER
Masterbush: I just re-read the early pages of this thread, and I now believe dussle is infected mafia.

VOTE CHANGE

UNV*TE AK ICE

V*TE FOR DUSSLE

JUST FOR THE RECORD



AND THEN... OH THIS IS GOING TO BE GOOD!
also, IC had posted his last name as something significant. I'd like to know more about that,
but only if it's not too revealing for any non-mafia, of course.

TRANSLATE THIS INTO YOU DUMMIES - CONNECT IC TO RK NOW! WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE SHE WOULD THEN PROCEED
TO CONVINCE US TO LYNCH RK - THEN WE DISCOVER HE IS A TOWNIE - WHICH CLEARS IC - OR PLAN B, WE EVENTUALLY LYNCH
IC SO AUTOMATICALLY GO LYNCH RK AND LOSE A TOWNIE.


THIS ONE ISN'T HALF BAD EITHER:
Only Mafia would be pressing hard against a no lynch.

ERR - YEAH? HOW? I AM MAFIA - I AM GOING TO KILL ONE PERSON TONIGHT - THE TOWN IS SUSPECTING AT LEAST ONE MAFIA (IC)
WHY WOULD I BE AGAINST A NO LYNCH VOTE? THINK ABOUT IT - IF I WERE MAFIA, I WOULD PRAY FOR NO LYNCH VOTES EVERY NIGHT!



THEN COMES:
This will give Auto a chance to investigate one more person - I suggest me since you don't believe me and I know
I'm a healthy townie

ON THE PLUS SIDE, SHE NOW RECOGNIZES "HEALTHY" AS A KEYWORD! GOOD GIRL. ON THE NOT SO POSITIVE SIDE, ONE WAY OR
THE OTHER AUTO WAS GOING TO DIE AND SHE KNEW IT.


ANOTHER INTERESTING ONE
what do we learn by not lynching IC?

1. Whether Auto's reads can be trusted or not, which will help us out much more in the future.

SO - OUR COP IS TELLING US IC IS MAFIA. YET - HER BRILLIANT IDEA IS TO IGNORE THAT IN ORDER TO KNOW
WHETHER OUR COP (WHO NOW WOULD BE KILLED FOR SURE) IS TRUSTWORTHY OR NOT.



yes, it does seem desperate, and I'm not even 100% sure IC isn't mafia...lol.
LOL? YEAH - HILARIOUS REALLY!
But having played with IC now for 3-4 games (?), I can say he doesn't appear to be acting like mafia to me
GOOD. I AM GLAD WE GOT THIS OUT OF THE WAY THEN!



vote wicked

very interesting post houssam
Day one I thought that the fight between you and wicked might be a ruse because both of you were mafia but now that you are continuing with it I think that just one of you are. The only way to figure out which one is with a lynch.

After reading both of your accusations against each other I think that I am going to have to side with houssam. All of wicked's accusations center around information in a PM that isn't exactly the same which to me isn't damning evidence. houssam's accusations center around your association with a known mafia member. For these reasons I am going to

vote wicked

We have awhile though so let's hear your defense.

Houssam wrote:She was friends with IC who turned out to be Mafia
She was against Dussle, Cram and Autoload who ALL turned out to be townies (dead townies now)!

She was suspected by all of the dead townies, trusted by IC.

yikes, making stuff up isn't going to help you here. I was suspicious of Dussle at first when he wouldn't clear up what he had previously written about what was in his PM. I dropped that as soon as he confirmed to me he did indeed have the correct info in his PM. BTW, trying to attribute what dussle wrote as what I wrote is stupid. Everyone here but you knows I didn't write the "hospital safety zone, aka camp" quote.

Yes, I was defending IC for the VERY REASON YOU MENTIONED EARLIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need I remind you? You saying something like "why would IC come out about his link to RK if he was mafia". That was my reasoning all along, which you conveniently picked up on, but never admitted I said as well. At least I ended up realizing my mistake later.

And please show me where I was against Cram and Auto??? I was entirely AGAINST voting off Auto, but since I thought at the time IC wasn't mafia, I pushed for a no lynch. you noob, mafia don't push for a no lynch!!!! they want to kill people!!!

Yes, Cram suspected me. He pretty much suspected everybody. I don't think either Auto or Dussle suspected me, but I can't be sure w/o going back to re-read.

I'm not going to go through and respond to every quote at this time, as I'm heading out to lunch, and I think I've already explained my reasonings to those quite well in previous posts. However, if anyone actually believes any erroneous assumptions on Houssam's part, let me know and I'll respond to those directly.

This is a very poor defense on your part Houssam, for someone who is usually so poised. Your half-ass attempt to make up lies is pathetic really. You did not respond at all to my allegations, just accused me. The accusations I expected, but not defending yourself? Are you that confident in your mafia buddies swaying the other voters?

Moz, think for a minute. Why would I knowingly associate myself with IC if I knew he was mafia? It would have been VERY easy to hop on the lynch IC bandwagon.

Furthermore, I've already stated the main reason for my vote for Houssam is the fact that ALL he has done has been to attack me every chance he gets. Now isn't that suspicious to you Moz? It's more than just the PM info.

And please explain how I associated myself with IC, other than defending him at first when I was fooled??????

Well a few of the recent posts raises my suspicions.

First off I agree with Moz... Xen is playing the noob card nearly every post and it is very hard to believe that he is that out of it. But he sure is doing a convinceing job of it so far. I keep writting him off as a noob townie.

Bogus I know you are a good poker player but to say that Wicked just could not be mafia again is taking a big risk! The roles are random and her odds are just as good this game as last that she pulls a mafia role. There have been several FOS pointed at wicked one of which was a very strong FOS by auto after his investigation. He was convinced at his death that wicked was mafia! I can not let this just be forgotten. For some reason I want to trust her but I did last game too and she sucked me in. Not this game... Wicked is in my top 2 or 3...

Master Bush makes a lot of claims one of which is level of posting but he left out the people who post the least and instead listed people in one area. There are two areas that we do not know if there is mafia in and he is in the one he did not mention. He stated...

Master Bush wrote:We need to lynched someone who has not been talking a lot.

Broom
Freetymes
trestain
Wicked <- has been talking the most, but is in the tower.

We all seem to be posting...

Then a page later he states

Master Bush wrote:I believe that Bogusbet & Trestain are both Mafia. With Moz being the 4th Mafia member if there is a 4th.

AK Iceman - Hospital
Bogusbet - Generator Complex
Trestain - Broadcast Towers

Which is it Missa Bush? You name nearly everybody but yourself. then after trying to stir the pot you are nowhere to be seen.
This is worth an FOS!

All in all this game makes you think everyone but yourself is mafia but the above things stand out to me so far.