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Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:51 am
by isaiah40
Then code one each as a neutral, that would eliminate anyone starting with a bonus. Maybe make those neutrals start a little higher say a 5 so that it would be a little harder to get hose bonuses right off the bat.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:49 pm
by ender516
Check out Bonus Probabilities. MrBenn has posted a link there to a calculator spreadsheet which should help you work out those probabilities.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:38 pm
by natty dread
But I still don't have a spreadsheet software...

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:27 pm
by WestWind
I like the idea of having a low neutral for every railway bonus. Who knows, maybe the person that conquer's one of those low neutrals will feel like they've "built" that section of the railway :-P

Regardless, without the neutrals on the railway territories some of those bonuses would be way too high (i.e. +2 for holding the 2 German railway territories).

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:24 pm
by ender516
natty_dread wrote:But I still don't have a spreadsheet software...

Maybe you should take the plunge and get OpenOffice.org. It can handle these spreadsheets just fine, and it's free.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:31 pm
by natty dread
Meh, let's just say I'll code those as neutrals, to be sure. ;) (but thanks for the link ender)

So it'll be like,

regular stations: 2 neutrals
express stations & termini, switzerland, moldova & monte negro: 3 neutrals

Burgundy, B.W, Bavaria, Austria, Hungary, Muntenia, Bulgary, Tekirdag: starting points with 3 troops

All others start random.

The current bonus scheme also looks pretty good to me...

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:40 pm
by cairnswk
natty...i've got to say you've done well so far, however there is nothing about the graphics that yells out "Orient Express" to me.
All this map is saying to me is "another European map with a twist on holding some railway lines" ;)
I'd suggest taking this to another level and have some stylish graphic that expresses the theme of Orient Express perhaps in the legend or somewhere prominent that gives the map some graphic pizzazz. :)

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:25 pm
by natty dread
Yes, yes cairnswk, I fully intend to spice up the legend. I have some plans for it... it'll have to wait until the graphics shop though.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:01 pm
by natty dread
Age of Tycoons?

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:30 pm
by ender516
I thought of that before, and thought it was already a trademarked name, so I didn't mention it. But it doesn't show up on Google, so maybe you are okay.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v5> p1,8

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:34 am
by natty dread
Hmm, I think it just might be the best name so far...

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,8

Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 9:34 am
by natty dread
Update: added neutral values, added connection between Strasbourg & Amsterdam, rearranged legend a bit.

v6
[bigimg]http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/5651/orientxv6.png[/bigimg]

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:53 pm
by natty dread
Mods, I think the poll has ran enough... Could you take it down please? I'd like to start another poll - about the name of the map pack.

Also, I'm pretty satisfied with the gameplay for now. Can anyone else see anything that should be changed? Perhaps we can get this stamped soon and start working on the visual side - I've had so much feedback on the graphics that I have put back because I want the gameplay sorted first...

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 12:59 pm
by Evil DIMwit
[Poll result]

Should this map be made?

Yes . . . 27 . . . 79%

No . . . . . 7 . . . 21%

Total votes : 34

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:12 pm
by natty dread
Thanks Evil.

Now, I've put up a new poll about the name for the map pack. The 3 most popular suggestions are up for voting.

For those who don't know, the map pack will consist of 3 maps: this one, Transsib (in melting pot) and Pacific Rail (not yet published, still working on the first draft). All maps feature legendary/famous railway lines in the industrial era - late 19th or early 20th century. Also, each of the maps is located on a different continent - Europe, Asia and America.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:50 pm
by The Bison King
All maps feature legendary/famous railway lines in the industrial era


Not to complicate things.......... but "Legendary rail" sounds like a pretty sweet name. Age of steam works though, that got my vote

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:04 am
by army of nobunaga
just leave out "Age"

What about "Choo chooo mundo:" Or "Its a great train after all" or " Chugga chugga choooo chooo pack"

Im being kind of silly, but I hate "Age of XXXX" there are a lot of cool names that will make your own stamp oin this and make it epic.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:19 am
by ender516
I voted for Age of Steam, but on second thought, maybe "Age of" is played out. Of course, it does move you to the top of the Browse Maps page. Hmm, what about "Tycoons of Steam"?

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:25 am
by army of nobunaga
World of steam
Steams away


I guess im bad at names.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:41 am
by theBastard
just one notice, Moravia is not Moravia there. it is Slovakia.

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 5:54 am
by natty dread
theBastard wrote:just one notice, Moravia is not Moravia there. it is Slovakia.


Damn, you're right. Thanks for pointing that out.

Also, I share the conserns with the "Age of" scheme getting old. But what else is there, I haven't heard any better suggestions...

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:47 am
by theBastard
not at all...

I think Age of Steam sounds good. if I good remember one period of history is named by Steam so it should be fine...

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:58 am
by natty dread
Hmm... well how about calling it "Steam Age" to get away from the "Age of" scheme... :D

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:10 am
by The Bison King
I haven't heard any better suggestions...


"Legendary Rails"

Re: Orient Express 1883 <v6> p1,10 - new poll!

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:14 am
by natty dread
You know, I'm starting to think that maybe I should just scrap the idea of a common name for the map pack... I mean, the names of the maps are already long enough... The current full name of this map for example is "Orient Expres 1883: Paris - Constantinople" so with the map pack name added to it it would be a real word monster...

The people who really like these maps would know that they belong to the same map pack anyway... and what if it turns out the later maps won't gather enough support and never get made, or run into some other problems... then it would be stupid to have just one map of a map pack...