Conquer Club

Yeah, I won't be here on Saturday and Sunday morning, so yeah.

Lurkers!

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Lurkers!

look who is talking...

ok, ya if you think newbie games are hard for experienced players, it is even harder for us newbs. My first few games, not PMC's other newb game, I just followed experienced players. I have no one to follow now.

captainwalrus wrote:ok, ya if you think newbie games are hard for experienced players, it is even harder for us newbs. My first few games, not PMC's other newb game, I just followed experienced players. I have no one to follow now.

hey now it is like the blind leading the blind...

captainwalrus wrote:ok, ya if you think newbie games are hard for experienced players, it is even harder for us newbs. My first few games, not PMC's other newb game, I just followed experienced players. I have no one to follow now.

This isn't really my convo but that's why you are finding it hard. You have to try to think for yourself, every post someone makes you must think are they lying? Why is that person saying that? Do I believe them? And eventually you will become good, you don't have to be right every time jsut as long as you have an opinion and believe in yourself. In my first game I hounded SL believeing him to be scum for a silly reason, I was wrong but I learnt from it. I read that thread a million times, and to this day it is my most posted in thread. My top tip for anyone new is to constantly scum hunt, or if your scum to constantly try to find out who is third party or who is a town power role and also concentrate on surviving. IT doesn't matter if you are wrong just that you try, trust me it's a lot funner than being dragged along for the ride.

p.s. don't let experienced players bully you either, just cause they say something is scummy doesn't mean it is, they could be mafia for all you know or it could just be a difference of opinions.

well since theres nothing to go.ill vote for the person who hasnt really done anything

vote masterchief

if for anything else to kill a deadbeat

naxus wrote:well since theres nothing to go.ill vote for the person who hasnt really done anything

vote masterchief

if for anything else to kill a deadbeat

I agree... I think he has only posted like twice... good enough for me. VOTE mc

Eh. It could be possible that Masterchief is just a massive submariner, and might have a hand in the scum (or they just don't understand their role and so have not posted, in which case they should PM the mod). I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

And there aren't any real solid arguments. Of course, this happens [most] day 1's. Except, just scrolling down, I see this.

e_i_pi wrote:There's a lot of random votes going on, no bandwagoning, and very little investigative talk. Maybe night phase is what we need to get things fired up

Now. Day one is the day for random votes. That's because we don't have much to debate about, or investigate, or anything. The only thing that makes Day 1 fired up is if a random kill comes in the middle of the day (which rarely, or never, happens), or if someone goes "I don't understand my role, if I'm scum or town". Night phase would get things fired up, as I'm guessing this is NV (non-vanilla), and so actions would be orgy. However, this does also lead to a death, or numerous deaths (depending if there are numerous serial killers, vigs, and other killing/defensive (PGO, paranoid gun owner) roles). I'm guessing there is at least a SK and a vig. Maybe even a cult (which has been hinted at in this game already).

Once again, e_i_pi, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt. I haven't played a game for what seems like a millennia, so I'm not great at picking up anything. I dono who to vote for.

I'll look through the thread again later to see if I can come up with a solid argument and hope for the best.

P.S. I'm not here for the rest of the day, so I have to use my phone to access CC, so if I post again and not make a great post, it's because I'm worried it won't post like in some cases.

Oh, and stokem, your aggressiveness against other players is pretty much unwarranted (unless you feel that, with your role that you have, you have to be). Some examples.

strokem1257 wrote:

SEAsportsfan wrote:I don't think I was role fishing, just throwing out ideas. heck, I even switched my vote over to him, after he tried to accuse yet another person of being scummy. So, maybe read the ENTIRE thread.

I am not accusing anyone of being scum. All I ever did was point out the same things you seem to be trying to pin on me. If that is such a crime then sorry for impeding in on your little game. And I think for that I Vote SEA

strokem1257 wrote:

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Lurkers!

look who is talking...

strokem1257 wrote:

naxus wrote:well since theres nothing to go.ill vote for the person who hasnt really done anything

vote masterchief

if for anything else to kill a deadbeat

I agree... I think he has only posted like twice... good enough for me. VOTE mc

Just three examples cause I'm too lazy to find more. However, as I read back over your posts (Strokem), I found that you're flipping out all over the place. You vote, then unvote a post later. You take an aggressive stance and then say that not voting is counter productive (which it isn't, at the time, because we have no idea where to go). You don't like bandwagons, but then you join one.

A classic newb. However, you have Mr. Squirrel protecting you and saying;

Mr. Squirrel wrote:unvote. Right now I see Strokem as just a really confused townie. My original accusation had almost no basis and was made only to break the chain of joke-votes and get some real discussion going.

A really confused townie, yes, but I don't see why that should be warranted to said. We all know strokem is confused, but whether he's a townie or not, is to be seen. And now I'm going to confuse things even more by accusing Mr. Squirrel.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

cena-rules wrote:As this is a game for beginners I dont think that there will be a cult/PR on the vampires side

I agree. While vamps in fiction would function like a cult, I don't think pmc would go that crazy with the roles in a newbie game.

Trying to shift away from a cult? A newb game can be like any other game, it just has newbies in it. Crazy roles can happen, same as cults and everything else. Your slight, and not-so-obvious protection of strokem leads me to believe that you two are masons, cult, or scum. I'm going for the two latter. With the early day attacking each other, it makes it seem like you two are just trying to force observations away from you. I'm sure I made a post already about how you two were trying to shift suspicions away from each other. My post, here.

Skittles! wrote:I love the counter scum tactic. fos squirrel and stokem. Trying to shift the attention by blaming each other.

Of course, this is just wild speculation, and I could be sprouting complete bullshit, but I'm going to go with my hunch.

FOS strokem, vote Mr. Squirrel. I'm only fosing strokem because he is the more inexperienced one. Squirrel could do more damage in the long run, as he has played numerous games.

And that's it for me until tomorrow. Good day. I'll be submarining but not posting, because as I said before.

P.S. I'm not here for the rest of the day, so I have to use my phone to access CC, so if I post again and not make a great post, it's because I'm worried it won't post like in some cases.

So I'll be watching how you counter my accusation.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

e_i_pi wrote:There's a lot of random votes going on, no bandwagoning, and very little investigative talk. Maybe night phase is what we need to get things fired up

Are you asking for a no lynch?

Well, I'm not putting a vote forward right now, there's very little to go on, and with 8-9 pages of chatter, we haven't uncovered much. Not much that's stuck anyhow. I just think if night comes around we might get a bit better idea of who's who.

the problem with games that PMC mods is that you can't vote him.

Suspect101 wrote:the problem with games that PMC mods is that you can't vote him.

QFT

Mr. Squirrel's reply will probably influence my vote, so I'll stick to a FOS Squirrel for now.

PMC I would have thought you wouldn't want me to post, seeing as I did get you lynched twice in the same game last night.

strokem1257 wrote:PMC I would have thought you wouldn't want me to post, seeing as I did get you lynched twice in the same game last night.

I am the mod I can't be lynched And plus I still double won that game so ha! You suck as does stroop and suspect, who have never managed to lynch me

Now back on topic before I modkill you all

pmchugh wrote:You suck as does stroop and suspect, who have never managed to lynch me

Maybe not lynched, but I definitely got you killed on several occasions

pmchugh wrote:

strokem1257 wrote:PMC I would have thought you wouldn't want me to post, seeing as I did get you lynched twice in the same game last night.

I am the mod I can't be lynched And plus I still double won that game so ha! You suck as does stroop and suspect, who have never managed to lynch me

Now back on topic before I modkill you all

oh your little threat about mod killing doesn't scare me... There is always another mafia game if I die in this one. my current record is 2 wins and 2 first round lynches so if I can make it past this round.... lol btw is there enough ppl around for an rt?

Stroop wrote:

pmchugh wrote:You suck as does stroop and suspect, who have never managed to lynch me

Maybe not lynched, but I definitely got you killed on several occasions

Sorry I couldn't here that over the sound of the loud noise of G'mork getting lynched...

And stroke probably not, you up for an rt risk?

ok, I'm waiting for Strokem's and Squirrel's replies.

yeah I am here. I just had to go trow in a pizza and fries for lunch. lets start up a rt.

Stroop wrote:

Suspect101 wrote:the problem with games that PMC mods is that you can't vote him.

QFT

Mr. Squirrel's reply will probably influence my vote, so I'll stick to a FOS Squirrel for now.

Thanks for the pressure.

Skittles! wrote:A really confused townie, yes, but I don't see why that should be warranted to said. We all know strokem is confused, but whether he's a townie or not, is to be seen. And now I'm going to confuse things even more by accusing Mr. Squirrel.

I made my vote on him originally because I wanted to get some discussion going. I have noticed in all of my other games that joke votes go around for three pages or so before someone makes some wild accusation and then the game takes off. I figured that calling stroke scum might lure in some discussion of either people attacking me, or people speculating on stroke's scumminess. Either way, there would be discussion and that, ultimately, is what we needed in this game. Unfortunately no one did much of anything with it and it ended up fizzling out until now.

I called him a confused townie later because that is honestly what I thought at the time. He seemed a bit over eager, but he didn't make any real scumtells so why would I think him to be scum?

Skittles! wrote:Trying to shift away from a cult? A newb game can be like any other game, it just has newbies in it. Crazy roles can happen, same as cults and everything else. Your slight, and not-so-obvious protection of strokem leads me to believe that you two are masons, cult, or scum.

Doesn't cult normally start with just one member, their leader? If so, how could we both be cult already? I am not really defending him either. I just said that I had no real reason to think he was scum and left it at that.

However, after you so kindly compiled all of stroke's posts in one place I can see why you think he might be scum. And I agree he has looked scummy. I'll give him the newbie benefit of the doubt though and just say he was still trying to understand the game. Now that he has a handful of RTs under his belt though, I'll probably be more condemning in the future.

MeDeFe wrote:ok, I'm waiting for Strokem's and Squirrel's replies.

You guys will probably keep chasing me no matter what I say simply because we have no other targets as of yet. Bring on the criticism.

Squirrl does seem to try to manipulate people, but chasing squirlls often ends bad. I will Vote Stokem for the reasons skittles said, but also because since then, he has not really said much to cofront it. A Townie, IMO would face an accusition head on, especialy if it is only a FOS and the accuser voted someone else, since that other person is first on the chopping block, and the Townie is not afraid of the cop investigating them that night, so they can afford to stay in the foreground of the descussion. Also, remember when I reilized I was sort of acting scummy by posting enough to not be lurking, but posting nothing of sustinance? He is doing exactly that.
He seems a bit like a newbie scum trying to figure out how to avoid the suspicion.

captainwalrus wrote:Squirrl does seem to try to manipulate people, but chasing squirlls often ends bad. I will Vote Stokem for the reasons skittles said, but also because since then, he has not really said much to cofront it. A Townie, IMO would face an accusition head on, especialy if it is only a FOS and the accuser voted someone else, since that other person is first on the chopping block, and the Townie is not afraid of the cop investigating them that night, so they can afford to stay in the foreground of the descussion. Also, remember when I reilized I was sort of acting scummy by posting enough to not be lurking, but posting nothing of sustinance? He is doing exactly that.
He seems a bit like a newbie scum trying to figure out how to avoid the suspicion.

ok I am sorry I haven't been as active in this thread. I have been playing more risk and also some rt mafia games, so it is hard to keep up with everything on here along with stuff in real life. go ahead and vote me out. but you will be sorry you are trying to lynch a big asset for every one of my fellow townies. I don't feel I should have to divulge who I am as of yet, but if any of you are big into movies....

just remember sometimes that there are worse things out at night than vampires. and besides, What the hell makes you think you know about huntin' vampires?

strokem1257 wrote:What the hell makes you think you know about huntin' vampires?

My PHD in Vampiral Preditation!