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Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:10 pm
by Incandenza
Scott-Land wrote:Their lineup speaks for itself... TSM having already beaten IA and KoRT's 'demise' with a tie with the Transformers ( I can't remember their name at the moment ) only leaves Tofu as the #1 contender. Not sure if it's a completely valid point you're making, but I can respect it nonetheless. You guys are definitely #1 and everyone wants a piece of you which comes with the territory.... they want to play you guys as much as you wanted to play us ( TSM ) and I don't see holding off the inevitable.
I see what you're saying, but my point is that lineup alone isn't enough. There's an art (or science) to clan challenges, picking teams and maps and figuring out matchups, plus getting a disparate group of people to work well together within a game, often with little experience playing with each other. I think the Kort-G1 challenge proved that there's more the being a top clan than having a roster of elite players.
Knight2254 wrote:It'll probably be a lot of hoopla for not a lot of results. So if we practically tie, similar to the 1 game difference in THOTA vs TSM, can we even declare any one of us better than the other? There may be a point when all three of these clans are so good that only variations in the dice and a little bit of luck on the drop can sway the board one way or the other. I don't anticipate any of these clans should be able to blow the others out of the water which is why, in some respects, ranking these clans is a little tricky.
I think that's a fair point, and it fits into my general sentiment about CC, which is that everything comes down to the balance between difference in skill level and difference in luck. All the amazing dice in the world won't help two noobs beat CoF and Dako, or Scott and laddi, or Blitz and BW, but pit any of those teams against each other and the slightest edge in terms of overall good fortune (in drop, cards, or dice) will probably be enough to turn the tide.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:54 pm
by Bruceswar
Incandenza wrote:
I see what you're saying, but my point is that lineup alone isn't enough. There's an art (or science) to clan challenges, picking teams and maps and figuring out matchups, plus getting a disparate group of people to work well together within a game, often with little experience playing with each other. I think the Kort-G1 challenge proved that there's more the being a top clan than having a roster of elite players.
Actually looking back at that challenge, there is nothing I or anybody from KORT would do differently. We played mostly simplish maps and dice played a big roll there. When someone like Prism goes 3-5 overall while playing as he normally would that says a lot if you ask me. Dice happen sometimes, and we could back and forth about it, but they do happen.


P.S. Everybody will finally get what they want in an Epic Match up. KORT vs TOFU. Just remember TOFU taste gross. ;)

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:57 pm
by Knight2254
Bruceswar wrote: P.S. Everybody will finally get what they want in an Epic Match up. KORT vs TOFU. Just remember TOFU taste gross. ;)
Epic eh? We'll be lucky to fill all of the games -- most of us are on vacation or are taking a break from CC right now.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:08 pm
by Bruceswar
Knight2254 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote: P.S. Everybody will finally get what they want in an Epic Match up. KORT vs TOFU. Just remember TOFU taste gross. ;)
Epic eh? We'll be lucky to fill all of the games -- most of us are on vacation or are taking a break from CC right now.

You do know there is a break before the match starts. I am sure you will get the games filled up.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 4:55 pm
by Foxglove
Knight2254 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote: P.S. Everybody will finally get what they want in an Epic Match up. KORT vs TOFU. Just remember TOFU taste gross. ;)
Epic eh? We'll be lucky to fill all of the games -- most of us are on vacation or are taking a break from CC right now.
Way to level set. :)

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:58 pm
by reptile
when does this get updated? will we be moving up for defeating kort and ia ?

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:11 pm
by Bruceswar
reptile wrote:when does this get updated? will we be moving up for defeating kort and ia ?

When did you beat KORT? Do you mean the league semifinals?

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:23 pm
by jpcloet
This will get updated soon enough, after all the league stuff got done, I started working on splitting this into several segments.

Wars-League-Other Events-Comprehensive etc.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:58 pm
by reptile
Bruceswar wrote:
reptile wrote:when does this get updated? will we be moving up for defeating kort and ia ?

When did you beat KORT? Do you mean the league semifinals?
yah, it is not a challenge, but i think he puts it into a formula that takes a little affect on this ladder

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:09 pm
by jpcloet
It is in this one if it is finished. The CCup will fall under other events based on the large gap in ranking, which will ruin some clan's OWP.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:28 am
by Dai_atan
that sounds awesome JP i'm looking forward to it :)

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:12 am
by jpcloet
An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:33 pm
by Snowgun
jpcloet wrote:An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.
Ok, where the hell is this posted? I couldn't find anything in either of the CLA threads. Maybe i'm jsut drunk. ;)

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:51 pm
by chemefreak
Snowgun wrote:
jpcloet wrote:An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.
Ok, where the hell is this posted? I couldn't find anything in either of the CLA threads. Maybe i'm jsut drunk. ;)
Only Ralph and I are able to view that forum for the Legion. We can discuss privately if you like.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:53 pm
by Snowgun
chemefreak wrote:
Only Ralph and I are able to view that forum for the Legion. We can discuss privately if you like.
Damn, it's that bad for us huh... :(


:lol:

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:07 am
by jpcloet
Snowgun wrote:
jpcloet wrote:An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.
Ok, where the hell is this posted? I couldn't find anything in either of the CLA threads. Maybe i'm jsut drunk. ;)
It's been rejected, I'm going to attempt to do something else if the clans are ready for it.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:57 am
by jackal31
jpcloet wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
jpcloet wrote:An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.
Ok, where the hell is this posted? I couldn't find anything in either of the CLA threads. Maybe i'm jsut drunk. ;)
It's been rejected, I'm going to attempt to do something else if the clans are ready for it.
was it rejected due to accuracy?

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:16 am
by perchorin
jackal31 wrote:
jpcloet wrote:
Snowgun wrote:
jpcloet wrote:An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.
Ok, where the hell is this posted? I couldn't find anything in either of the CLA threads. Maybe i'm jsut drunk. ;)
It's been rejected, I'm going to attempt to do something else if the clans are ready for it.
was it rejected due to accuracy?
I hope it wasn't due to drunkeness, becaue that's what fuelss CC baaby!

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:24 am
by angola
Snowgun wrote:
jpcloet wrote:An upgraded RPI Ladder has been posted in the CLA for comments/suggestions and error checking.
Ok, where the hell is this posted? I couldn't find anything in either of the CLA threads. Maybe i'm jsut drunk. ;)
I'm not the only one that couldn't figure out why I couldn't see this ranking!

I too was drunk when looking for it.

I feel a bit better now.

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:23 am
by Ace Rimmer
angola wrote:I'm not the only one that couldn't figure out why I couldn't see this ranking!

I too was drunk when looking for it.

I feel a bit better now.
Better because you weren't supposed to see it, or better because you're sober? :D

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:08 pm
by TheMissionary
We at Memento Mori would like to be ranked at the bottom please. That way the only movement is up. :lol:

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:59 am
by Leehar
Is it possible to have an update on this? Would help significantly in deciding the Power rankings as well. #-o

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:40 am
by Electricksabers
If you look at the top post this page, JP says this has been rejected. So I don't think it will be updated.

Actually we should probably unsticky this so it floats down the list

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:25 am
by Leehar
shaneback wrote:If you look at the top post this page, JP says this has been rejected. So I don't think it will be updated.

Actually we should probably unsticky this so it floats down the list
True, I forgot about that.
Still, it may have given a nice indication if all that needs to be done is input some values 8-[

Re: Clan Wars Rankings Ladder - 2 Year Weighted RPI

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:38 pm
by Chariot of Fire
I agree. Whilst it may not be perfect it does serve as a good point of reference. Without info such as this the Power Rankings depend on people doing quite a bit of history checking to see what has gone down over the past 12 months.