Conquer Club

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote since it was just a random day 1 vote. I do give this for you to think about and discuss on a serious matter, but the last line is very important.

We have 3 players who's game numbers equal 41. Who they are, I cannot say by rule, but one of them will surely cause a death each day by choosing to make a dead dude. The numbers are not all even or all odd, but the person surely is odd. Heed my advice town because once I state this, I cannot interpret any answers.

zimmah wrote:it's a jokevote stage, what's there to hide?

thehippo8 wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote since it was just a random day 1 vote. I do give this for you to think about and discuss on a serious matter, but the last line is very important.

We have 3 players who's game numbers equal 41. Who they are, I cannot say by rule, but one of them will surely cause a death each day by choosing to make a dead dude. The numbers are not all even or all odd, but the person surely is odd. Heed my advice town because once I state this, I cannot interpret any answers.

Okay so let's get serious ... the starting roles have provided some small snippets of information which a player knows but cannot directly say ... if I get what your saying. This information though is just too weird. If its based on starting position numbers then I am afraid that really doesn't help right now2 ... although it will be very valuable information later as the days go on and the three remain. For now here is an example of numbers (no intent to be exhaustive) ...

22 18 1
22 17 2
22 16 3
22 15 4
22 14 5
22 13 6
22 17 2
22 16 3
22 15 4
22 14 5
22 13 6
22 12 7
22 11 8
22 10 9
21 18 2
21 16 4
21 14 6
21 12 8
20 19 2
20 18 3
20 17 4
20 16 5
20 15 6
20 14 7
20 13 8
20 12 9
20 11 10
19 18 4
19 16 6
19 14 8
19 12 10
18 17 6
18 16 7
18 15 8
18 14 9
18 13 10
18 12 11
17 22 2

For now, I am still of the view that those who have been silent are probably being silent because they have something to hide. My vote doesn't change at this stage and I focus on the silent ones for now.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote since it was just a random day 1 vote. I do give this for you to think about and discuss on a serious matter, but the last line is very important.

We have 3 players who's game numbers equal 41. Who they are, I cannot say by rule, but one of them will surely cause a death each day by choosing to make a dead dude. The numbers are not all even or all odd, but the person surely is odd. Heed my advice town because once I state this, I cannot interpret any answers.

22   18   1
22   17   2
22   16   3
22   15   4
22   14   5
22   13   6
22   12   7
22   11   8
22   10   9
21   18   2
21   17   3
21   16   4
21   15   5
21   14   6
21   13   7
21   12   8
21   11   9
20   18   3
20   17   4
20   16   5
20   15   6
20   14   7
20   13   8
20   12   9
20   11   10
19   18   4
19   17   5
19   16   6
19   15   7
19   14   8
19   13   9
19   12   10
18   17   6
18   16   7
18   15   8
18   14   9
18   13   10
18   12   11
17   16   8
17   15   9
17   14   10
17   13   11
16   15   10
16   14   11
16   13   12
15   14   12

And here is my list, as they are on the first page, counting replacements

1   edocsil
2   Nag
3   Victor
4   PCM
5   Fox
6   LSU Tiger
7   Irish Tiger
8   Trinicardinal
9   terrafutan
10   chapcrap
11   skillfusion
12   WildWill
13   dazza
14   conzocool
15   mob deadly
16   SG7
17   JenBroness
18   Zimmah
19   ShaggyDan
20   DazeRazer
21   thehippo
22   eldario

edocsil wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Unvote since it was just a random day 1 vote. I do give this for you to think about and discuss on a serious matter, but the last line is very important.

We have 3 players who's game numbers equal 41. Who they are, I cannot say by rule, but one of them will surely cause a death each day by choosing to make a dead dude. The numbers are not all even or all odd, but the person surely is odd. Heed my advice town because once I state this, I cannot interpret any answers.

I made a little program that calculated every possible combination of player numbers totaling 41. There are 46 unique combinations (hippo's method had duplicates) Here they are for reference as well as the player list I used.

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22   18   1
22   17   2
22   16   3
22   15   4
22   14   5
22   13   6
22   12   7
22   11   8
22   10   9
21   18   2
21   17   3
21   16   4
21   15   5
21   14   6
21   13   7
21   12   8
21   11   9
20   18   3
20   17   4
20   16   5
20   15   6
20   14   7
20   13   8
20   12   9
20   11   10
19   18   4
19   17   5
19   16   6
19   15   7
19   14   8
19   13   9
19   12   10
18   17   6
18   16   7
18   15   8
18   14   9
18   13   10
18   12   11
17   16   8
17   15   9
17   14   10
17   13   11
16   15   10
16   14   11
16   13   12
15   14   12

And here is my list, as they are on the first page, counting replacements

1   edocsil
2   Nag
3   Victor
4   PCM
5   Fox
6   LSU Tiger
7   Irish Tiger
8   Trinicardinal
9   terrafutan
10   chapcrap
11   skillfusion
12   WildWill
13   dazza
14   conzocool
15   mob deadly
16   SG7
17   JenBroness
18   Zimmah
19   ShaggyDan
20   DazeRazer
21   thehippo
22   eldario

At the moment it does us little, besides indication that low player numbers are statistically less likely to be scum then then high numbers. Even this assumption is invalid if the roles were assigned in a non random fashion. If we find out that player (pick a number randomly here) 17 was scum that would leave us with 18 possible scum but if we know that player 17 was scum and player 4 was scum, following the pattern would explicitly claim that player 20 was the 3rd scum member.

The major caveat to this is the whole thing is completely useless if there are more then 3 scum, but it still will work if there are multiple factions and we can distinguish between scum. Factions are a possibility, otherwise we could easily have a 10 day game with only one kill a night. It could go on even longer if we cannot come to conclusions as to who to lynch.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Glad we're getting some discussion going. No where did I state how many "bad" guys total in this game. I used the info that I've seen and was allowed to post it to give out some info that IS beneficial for the townies to use and hopefully the smarties in the group will be able to figure out what is meant by what I stated since I am not allowed to clarify stuff that yall have interpreted from my riddle. I am still in favor of the bandwagon that was started on zimmah to come down to face their judge and jury on why they should not be our day 1 lynch. Fox if I really wanted to tie your head up in a logics twist why would I do it on day 1 when it's just a bunch of random crap. I would do it on a day when town was closer to discovering someone that I wanted to "protect" instead of using my eye of the tiger to see what is happening out here.

For what it is worth Jens is getting replaced currently in another game I'm in so I would leave that one up for the mod to handle.

chapcrap wrote:

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Glad we're getting some discussion going. No where did I state how many "bad" guys total in this game. I used the info that I've seen and was allowed to post it to give out some info that IS beneficial for the townies to use and hopefully the smarties in the group will be able to figure out what is meant by what I stated since I am not allowed to clarify stuff that yall have interpreted from my riddle. I am still in favor of the bandwagon that was started on zimmah to come down to face their judge and jury on why they should not be our day 1 lynch. Fox if I really wanted to tie your head up in a logics twist why would I do it on day 1 when it's just a bunch of random crap. I would do it on a day when town was closer to discovering someone that I wanted to "protect" instead of using my eye of the tiger to see what is happening out here.

For what it is worth Jens is getting replaced currently in another game I'm in so I would leave that one up for the mod to handle.

Maybe I'm just thick, but I don't understand what he's talking about. If someone does understand, can they clarify for me? I'm going to go re-read what was said, but I don't get it.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Glad we're getting some discussion going. No where did I state how many "bad" guys total in this game. I used the info that I've seen and was allowed to post it to give out some info that IS beneficial for the townies to use and hopefully the smarties in the group will be able to figure out what is meant by what I stated since I am not allowed to clarify stuff that yall have interpreted from my riddle. I am still in favor of the bandwagon that was started on zimmah to come down to face their judge and jury on why they should not be our day 1 lynch. Fox if I really wanted to tie your head up in a logics twist why would I do it on day 1 when it's just a bunch of random crap. I would do it on a day when town was closer to discovering someone that I wanted to "protect" instead of using my eye of the tiger to see what is happening out here.

For what it is worth Jens is getting replaced currently in another game I'm in so I would leave that one up for the mod to handle.

safariguy5 wrote:Quick clarification, the rules state that only bold votes will be counted. Whether or not you color the bold is irrelevant, but just colored text is not considered voting. So no change in vote edoc.

wildwilliam wrote:are we still needing 2 replacements?

safariguy5 wrote:Vote Count

Foxxie(2)- edoc, chapcrap

eldario- dazza

mob deadly(2)- zimmah, terrafutan

trini- shield

zimmah(5)- pancake, conozo, sniper, LSU, hippo

wildwilliam- trini

LSU(3)- wildwilliam, MoB, Foxxie

hippo- eldario


With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Quick clarification, the rules state that only bold votes will be counted. Whether or not you color the bold is irrelevant, but just colored text is not considered voting. So no change in vote edoc.

thehippo8 wrote:okay FOS terrafutan and JenBroness for saying nothing

And to add some pressure vote terrafutan ... are they your feathers?

terrafutan wrote:

thehippo8 wrote:okay FOS terrafutan and JenBroness for saying nothing

And to add some pressure vote terrafutan ... are they your feathers?

Newb to CC Mafia, so haven't much to say at this point. I at least RV'd.

What feathers are you on about mate ?

So your FOS plan is to target the inactives and noobs ? Little bit scummy that.

thehippo8 wrote:

terrafutan wrote:

thehippo8 wrote:okay FOS terrafutan and JenBroness for saying nothing

And to add some pressure vote terrafutan ... are they your feathers?

Newb to CC Mafia, so haven't much to say at this point. I at least RV'd.

What feathers are you on about mate ?

So your FOS plan is to target the inactives and noobs ? Little bit scummy that.

Ah ... I was simply trying to get you to play. You will note that I am not voting for you any more. Unusual you would be so sensitive though. You remain under suspicion for now, but I am NOT voting against you unless I have further good reason to do so.

As to feathers it was simply a play on words - we are looking for a pigeon of sorts!

thehippo8 wrote:

terrafutan wrote:

thehippo8 wrote:okay FOS terrafutan and JenBroness for saying nothing

And to add some pressure vote terrafutan ... are they your feathers?

Newb to CC Mafia, so haven't much to say at this point. I at least RV'd.

What feathers are you on about mate ?

So your FOS plan is to target the inactives and noobs ? Little bit scummy that.

Ah ... I was simply trying to get you to play. You will note that I am not voting for you any more. Unusual you would be so sensitive though. You remain under suspicion for now, but I am NOT voting against you unless I have further good reason to do so.

As to feathers it was simply a play on words - we are looking for a pigeon of sorts!

thehippo8 wrote:Ah ... I was simply trying to get you to play. You will note that I am not voting for you any more. Unusual you would be so sensitive though. You remain under suspicion for now, but I am NOT voting against you unless I have further good reason to do so.

As to feathers it was simply a play on words - we are looking for a pigeon of sorts!

terrafutan wrote:

thehippo8 wrote:Ah ... I was simply trying to get you to play. You will note that I am not voting for you any more. Unusual you would be so sensitive though. You remain under suspicion for now, but I am NOT voting against you unless I have further good reason to do so.

As to feathers it was simply a play on words - we are looking for a pigeon of sorts!

Nothing sensitive about my reply, simply stated my position.

Trying to gauge my first D1 on a new site, so it's not like I'm going to jump in guns blazing.

dazza2008 wrote:As to feathers it was simply a play on words - we are looking for a pigeon of sorts!

terrafutan wrote:Nothing sensitive about my reply, simply stated my position.

Trying to gauge my first D1 on a new site, so it's not like I'm going to jump in guns blazing.