Conquer Club

riskllama wrote:nice quintuple post, jusplay.... that's gotta be a record, i think.

demonfork wrote:Hey Gary, do you think you could condense all of those posts down to one? I'm not going to reply to 50 posts.

riskllama wrote:holy f*ck, it was actually 6!!! a new personal best!!!

riskllama wrote:thank you, President Trump...

Dukasaur wrote:Jusplay, your points are valid, but you need to learn to relax and not be angry. Or at least not make it so obvious that you are angry. When you do, people will try to piss you off just as a sport, and that's a positive-feedback loop that just gets out of control.

Trust me, it's happened to me in the past...

Dukasaur wrote:
Trust me, it's happened to me in the past...

DoomYoshi wrote:Re: number 3.

Since most of the negative effects will be in the islands and in the equatorial zone and I live neither on an island nor near the equator... why should I care?

Canada, Russia and the Scandanavian countries are all set to benefit from global warming.

Therefore, it isn't bad because the countries who will take the most damage are the ones filled with terrorists anyway. That's what I call win-win. It's a win for Canadians and a win for terrorists, since they get to meet their maker.

Can you legitimately tell me one bad thing that will happen in my area? (toronto)

I already made this same post on page 4.

DoomYoshi wrote:
Can you legitimately tell me one bad thing that will happen in my area? (toronto)

jusplay4fun wrote:More Myth Busters:

Again, the myth about Global Warming is in quotes; the response follows each

Many comments have been made in this thread about the insignificance about CO2. I think those myths are adequately busted here.

JP

32 "Climate scientists are in it for the money"

Climate scientists could make far more money in other careers - most notably, working for the oil industry.

30 "Increasing CO2 has little to no effect"

The strong CO2 effect has been observed by many different measurements.

"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"

The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.

"IPCC is alarmist"

Numerous papers have documented how IPCC predictions are more likely to underestimate the climate response.

"There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature"

There is long-term correlation between CO2 and global temperature; other effects are short-term.

"It's a natural cycle"

No known natural forcing fits the fingerprints of observed warming except anthropogenic greenhouse gases.

"It's not us"

Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint on climate change.

"CO2 is just a trace gas"

Many substances are dangerous even in trace amounts; what really matters is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

"It's methane"

Methane plays a minor role in global warming but could get much worse if permafrost starts to melt.

"CO2 has a short residence time"

Excess CO2 from human emissions has a long residence time of over 100 years

"CO2 measurements are suspect"

CO2 levels are measured by hundreds of stations across the globe, all reporting the same trend.

"CO2 is not the only driver of climate"

Theory, models and direct measurement confirm CO2 is currently the main driver of climate change.

"CO2 limits will make little difference"

If every nation agrees to limit CO2 emissions, we can achieve significant cuts on a global scale.

"Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate"

Humans are small but powerful, and human CO2emissions are causing global warming.

"Less than half of published scientists endorse global warming"

Around 97% of climate experts agree that humans are causing global warming.

"The IPCCconsensus is phoney"

113 nations signed onto the 2007 IPCC report, which is simply a summary of the current body of climate science evidence

"CO2 emissions do not correlate with CO2 concentration"

That humans are causing the rise in atmospheric CO2 is confirmed by multiple isotopic analyses.

"97% consensus on human-caused global warming has been disproven"

The 97% consensus has been independently confirmed by a number of different approaches and lines of evidence.

"CO2 increase is natural, not human-caused"

Many lines of evidence, including simple accounting, demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that the increase in atmospheric CO2 is due to human fossil fuel burning.

Symmetry wrote:Jp4, learn how to put a post together.

DoomYoshi wrote:Re: number 3.

Since most of the negative effects will be in the islands and in the equatorial zone and I live neither on an island nor near the equator... why should I care?

Canada, Russia and the Scandanavian countries are all set to benefit from global warming.

Therefore, it isn't bad because the countries who will take the most damage are the ones filled with terrorists anyway. That's what I call win-win. It's a win for Canadians and a win for terrorists, since they get to meet their maker.

Can you legitimately tell me one bad thing that will happen in my area? (toronto)

I already made this same post on page 4.

DoomYoshi wrote:
Since most of the negative effects will be in the islands and in the equatorial zone and I live neither on an island nor near the equator... why should I care?

Canada, Russia and the Scandanavian countries are all set to benefit from global warming.

Therefore, it isn't bad because the countries who will take the most damage are the ones filled with terrorists anyway. That's what I call win-win. It's a win for Canadians and a win for terrorists, since they get to meet their maker.

Can you legitimately tell me one bad thing that will happen in my area? (toronto)

Dukasaur wrote:

DoomYoshi wrote:
Can you legitimately tell me one bad thing that will happen in my area? (toronto)

As a minimum, increases in the price of food. It doesn't matter that our own food production will increase. Crop failures elsewhere will bid up the price of food faster than our production increase will drive it down.

More extreme harm is quite possible if the extent of global warming is greater than predicted. I think you know that runaway warming is not completely out of the question.

To me, though, the loss of biodiversity worldwide is a tragedy regardless of where I live. At this point, between the warming of the seas and their acidification, it is possible we could lose the corals. I mean all of them; an entire Class extinct. You may not see that as a "problem" -- it may not cost you or I in any tangible sense -- but it's still a tragedy.

mookiemcgee wrote:
Here's what your own gov't is telling you:

https://www.ontario.ca/page/climate-cha ... -resources

and another article from the news
https://tvo.org/article/current-affairs ... or-ontario

Symmetry wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:More Myth Busters:

Again, the myth about Global Warming is in quotes; the response follows each

Many comments have been made in this thread about the insignificance about CO2. I think those myths are adequately busted here.

JP

32 "Climate scientists are in it for the money"

Climate scientists could make far more money in other careers - most notably, working for the oil industry.

30 "Increasing CO2 has little to no effect"

The strong CO2 effect has been observed by many different measurements.

"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"

The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.

"IPCC is alarmist"

Numerous papers have documented how IPCC predictions are more likely to underestimate the climate response.

"There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature"

There is long-term correlation between CO2 and global temperature; other effects are short-term.

"It's a natural cycle"

No known natural forcing fits the fingerprints of observed warming except anthropogenic greenhouse gases.

"It's not us"

Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint on climate change.

"CO2 is just a trace gas"

Many substances are dangerous even in trace amounts; what really matters is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

"It's methane"

Methane plays a minor role in global warming but could get much worse if permafrost starts to melt.

"CO2 has a short residence time"

Excess CO2 from human emissions has a long residence time of over 100 years

"CO2 measurements are suspect"

CO2 levels are measured by hundreds of stations across the globe, all reporting the same trend.

"CO2 is not the only driver of climate"

Theory, models and direct measurement confirm CO2 is currently the main driver of climate change.

"CO2 limits will make little difference"

If every nation agrees to limit CO2 emissions, we can achieve significant cuts on a global scale.

"Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate"

Humans are small but powerful, and human CO2emissions are causing global warming.

"Less than half of published scientists endorse global warming"

Around 97% of climate experts agree that humans are causing global warming.

"The IPCCconsensus is phoney"

113 nations signed onto the 2007 IPCC report, which is simply a summary of the current body of climate science evidence

"CO2 emissions do not correlate with CO2 concentration"

That humans are causing the rise in atmospheric CO2 is confirmed by multiple isotopic analyses.

"97% consensus on human-caused global warming has been disproven"

The 97% consensus has been independently confirmed by a number of different approaches and lines of evidence.

"CO2 increase is natural, not human-caused"

Many lines of evidence, including simple accounting, demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that the increase in atmospheric CO2 is due to human fossil fuel burning.

Kinda fixed

The ram wrote:Global warming and the #Metoo movement are designed for the same purpose.

jusplay4fun wrote:BTW: It's ALL from one source and is a compilation of many arguments.

So I saw no need to reformat this info. But some of you may prefer Symm's reformat.

JP

Symmetry wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:More Myth Busters:

Again, the myth about Global Warming is in quotes; the response follows each

Many comments have been made in this thread about the insignificance about CO2. I think those myths are adequately busted here.

JP

32 "Climate scientists are in it for the money"

Climate scientists could make far more money in other careers - most notably, working for the oil industry.

30 "Increasing CO2 has little to no effect"

The strong CO2 effect has been observed by many different measurements.

"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"

The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.

"IPCC is alarmist"

Numerous papers have documented how IPCC predictions are more likely to underestimate the climate response.

"There's no correlation between CO2 and temperature"

There is long-term correlation between CO2 and global temperature; other effects are short-term.

"It's a natural cycle"

No known natural forcing fits the fingerprints of observed warming except anthropogenic greenhouse gases.

"It's not us"

Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint on climate change.

"CO2 is just a trace gas"

Many substances are dangerous even in trace amounts; what really matters is the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

"It's methane"

Methane plays a minor role in global warming but could get much worse if permafrost starts to melt.

"CO2 has a short residence time"

Excess CO2 from human emissions has a long residence time of over 100 years

"CO2 measurements are suspect"

CO2 levels are measured by hundreds of stations across the globe, all reporting the same trend.

"CO2 is not the only driver of climate"

Theory, models and direct measurement confirm CO2 is currently the main driver of climate change.

"CO2 limits will make little difference"

If every nation agrees to limit CO2 emissions, we can achieve significant cuts on a global scale.

"Humans are too insignificant to affect global climate"

Humans are small but powerful, and human CO2emissions are causing global warming.

"Less than half of published scientists endorse global warming"

Around 97% of climate experts agree that humans are causing global warming.

"The IPCCconsensus is phoney"

113 nations signed onto the 2007 IPCC report, which is simply a summary of the current body of climate science evidence

"CO2 emissions do not correlate with CO2 concentration"

That humans are causing the rise in atmospheric CO2 is confirmed by multiple isotopic analyses.

"97% consensus on human-caused global warming has been disproven"

The 97% consensus has been independently confirmed by a number of different approaches and lines of evidence.

"CO2 increase is natural, not human-caused"

Many lines of evidence, including simple accounting, demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that the increase in atmospheric CO2 is due to human fossil fuel burning.

Kinda fixed