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Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [pending]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:16 pm
by the.killing.44
king sam wrote:rbelgrod and Mageplunka have been blocked, given a score reset and are serving a 1 month vacation from the site.

Arish Babil is suspended indefinitely pending an investigation for his involvement in this case.

Suspended = just prem strip, right?

=D> good work guys.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:45 pm
by Bruceswar
rebl still is allowed to play the games out? or?

[game]5968708[/game]

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:49 pm
by VampireM
all three our on the guest list for now... maybe take a bit to fully update or they will deadbeat there turns?

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:04 pm
by king achilles
Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:15 pm
by VampireM
king achilles wrote:Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.



sounds like a temporary ban hurts more as ur team have to wait three rounds to get ur troops, is that attended?

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [pending]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:17 pm
by colton24
the.killing.44 wrote:
king sam wrote:rbelgrod and Mageplunka have been blocked, given a score reset and are serving a 1 month vacation from the site.

Arish Babil is suspended indefinitely pending an investigation for his involvement in this case.

Suspended = just prem strip, right?

=D> good work guys.


+1

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:18 pm
by the.killing.44
VampireM wrote:
king achilles wrote:Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.



sounds like a temporary ban hurts more as ur team have to wait three rounds to get ur troops, is that attended?

No, you can still play…

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:19 pm
by colton24
the.killing.44 wrote:
VampireM wrote:
king achilles wrote:Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.



sounds like a temporary ban hurts more as ur team have to wait three rounds to get ur troops, is that attended?

No, you can still play…


What the.jefjef.44 said. 8-[

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:34 pm
by jefjef
colton24 wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:
VampireM wrote:
king achilles wrote:Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.



sounds like a temporary ban hurts more as ur team have to wait three rounds to get ur troops, is that attended?

No, you can still play…


What the.jefjef.44 said. 8-[


I do believe killing just got flamed. I suggest coltons trolling flame spam get reported

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:59 pm
by colton24
jefjef wrote:
colton24 wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:
VampireM wrote:
king achilles wrote:Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.



sounds like a temporary ban hurts more as ur team have to wait three rounds to get ur troops, is that attended?

No, you can still play…


What the.jefjef.44 said. 8-[


I do believe killing just got flamed. I suggest coltons trolling flame spam get reported


You call him the.colton.24 ;)

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:11 pm
by Woodruff
colton24 wrote:
jefjef wrote:
colton24 wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:No, you can still play…


What the.jefjef.44 said. 8-[


I do believe killing just got flamed. I suggest coltons trolling flame spam get reported


You call him the.colton.24 ;)


Colton has a point...that's a far worse flame.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:24 pm
by ronsizzle
Woodruff wrote:
colton24 wrote:
jefjef wrote:
colton24 wrote:
the.killing.44 wrote:No, you can still play…


What the.jefjef.44 said. 8-[


I do believe killing just got flamed. I suggest coltons trolling flame spam get reported


You call him the.colton.24 ;)


Colton has a point...that's a far worse flame.



woodruff....that is one of the funnier things i have read all day!

absolutely hysterical.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:45 am
by Knight2254
So are they banned or just point resetted? If just resetted it really sucks for all of the legitimate games people are playing against him. :roll:

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:47 am
by Koganosi
Dudes, throw them out the games 2. I am in some quads wich we are losing. Now Ill lose around 40 to 50 points instead of 20.

Urs

Koganosi.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:36 am
by hahaha3hahaha
What does any of this have to do with antisemitism btw?

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:12 am
by e_i_pi
So the punishment for points dumping is a score reset? How do you punish multis, create a bunch of new accounts for them?

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:30 am
by Mr Changsha
Good result this. I remember the last time they got blocked and what I remember most was the bullshit 'Dad' came out with to justify it. Great to see he lost all his points...I hope this will discourage others from attempting the same thing.

Like others on this thread I find it truly amazing the lengths players will go to in an effort to reach 3,000 points. I mean, I give a shit as much as the next point whore but really...getting your son to throw games for you???

Sucks to be rbelgrod.

People say 'but he is a great player really'. Balls. The man has no honour. Take away honour from a game (in this case the 'climb the scoreboard game') and all you have is a pointless cheat.

Farming I can accept in general (sometimes I even applaud it), but this crap deserved a website ban.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:45 am
by hahaha3hahaha
Mr Changsha wrote:Good result this. I remember the last time they got blocked and what I remember most was the bullshit 'Dad' came out with to justify it. Great to see he lost all his points...I hope this will discourage others from attempting the same thing.

Like others on this thread I find it truly amazing the lengths players will go to in an effort to reach 3,000 points. I mean, I give a shit as much as the next point whore but really...getting your son to throw games for you???

Sucks to be rbelgrod.

People say 'but he is a great player really'. Balls. The man has no honour. Take away honour from a game (in this case the 'climb the scoreboard game') and all you have is a pointless cheat.

Farming I can accept in general (sometimes I even applaud it), but this crap deserved a website ban.


What you say is true. But I think what people (including me) are referring to when we say he's a good player is his gameplay (in team games especially), which he is. His point dumping scheme which was very disappointing was more of a moral issue and brings down his character, not his tactical abilities.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:52 am
by timmy1
Shouldn't the point reset occur AFTER the 1 month vacation? Seems like a much better way of handling it for all those involved.

I imagine he'll get some of his points back during this period due to an a mismatch in playing level and score. Its upsetting to those playing against him now, who may lose more points or gain much less. This is especially true as the games were joined with the idea of a "fair" game in terms of points, not with such a disparity among players.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:16 am
by KraphtOne
[game]6039067[/game]

Arish Babil Is just as guilty...

2009-12-02 13:05:31 - rbelgrod received 5 troops for holding Borun Castle
2009-12-02 13:05:31 - rbelgrod received 5 troops for holding Ghyr Castle
2009-12-02 13:05:31 - rbelgrod received 3 troops for 2 regions
2009-12-02 13:05:33 - rbelgrod deployed 13 troops on Borun
2009-12-02 13:05:34 - rbelgrod assaulted Yrake from Borun and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:05:35 - rbelgrod assaulted Duht from Yrake and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:05:38 - rbelgrod assaulted Rhit from Duht and conquered it from Mageplunka
2009-12-02 13:05:40 - rbelgrod assaulted Aoria from Rhit and conquered it from Mageplunka
2009-12-02 13:05:42 - rbelgrod assaulted Qasr from Rhit and conquered it from Mageplunka
2009-12-02 13:05:44 - rbelgrod assaulted Aosa from Qasr and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:05:49 - rbelgrod ended the turn

2009-12-02 13:06:34 - Arish Babil received 5 troops for holding Xi Castle
2009-12-02 13:06:34 - Arish Babil received 5 troops for holding Figye Castle
2009-12-02 13:06:34 - Arish Babil received 3 troops for 4 regions
2009-12-02 13:06:44 - Arish Babil deployed 13 troops on Figye
2009-12-02 13:06:46 - Arish Babil assaulted Lof from Figye and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:06:47 - Arish Babil assaulted Por from Lof and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:06:49 - Arish Babil assaulted Voigth from Por and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:06:51 - Arish Babil assaulted Aosa from Voigth and conquered it from rbelgrod
2009-12-02 13:06:53 - Arish Babil assaulted Duisch from Aosa and conquered it from neutral player
2009-12-02 13:06:57 - Arish Babil ended the turn


even someone that only minutes before had learned how to play the game, would have stacked 13 on wheat field and hit qasr and taken out the other 5 ones that green had left and gotten the auto-win...

instead he stacks on figye and hits 9 neutral troops before touching green... ensuring the win for green...

arish has 180 games played on the map and has a roughly 50% win ratio...

which is pretty good considering he is 0-30 against rbelgrod...

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:12 am
by Mr Changsha
hahaha3hahaha wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:Good result this. I remember the last time they got blocked and what I remember most was the bullshit 'Dad' came out with to justify it. Great to see he lost all his points...I hope this will discourage others from attempting the same thing.

Like others on this thread I find it truly amazing the lengths players will go to in an effort to reach 3,000 points. I mean, I give a shit as much as the next point whore but really...getting your son to throw games for you???

Sucks to be rbelgrod.

People say 'but he is a great player really'. Balls. The man has no honour. Take away honour from a game (in this case the 'climb the scoreboard game') and all you have is a pointless cheat.

Farming I can accept in general (sometimes I even applaud it), but this crap deserved a website ban.


What you say is true. But I think what people (including me) are referring to when we say he's a good player is his gameplay (in team games especially), which he is. His point dumping scheme which was very disappointing was more of a moral issue and brings down his character, not his tactical abilities.


I think the big problem is that he did it once back in 2008 and all these players lined up to say what a good chap he was, salt of the earth...his shit simply didn't stink. He declared that he was 'teaching his son' (winning 60 games in a row as I recall) and all these players said "Yeah, why not? The guys a great player" He never put his hands up at any point and said "Ok..I did it."

Now he does exactly the same thing, if to a greater scale this time it seems to me...and still people write "he's a good player in his gameplay". What??? The chap might be a good player, but the cheating overshadows all. How can one be sure about just how many other games he cheated in? How much of this 'great record' was a sham?

Of course the biggest problem with your argument is basic human nature. Those that cheat are usually the ones who have some real ability at the game, but nowhere near enough to achieve their goals without resorting to cheating. Those that have no ability don't tend to bother (or their attempts to cheat so retardedly pathetic as to suggest a lack or real motivation to successfully cheat for the long-haul)..for what's the point if you can never maintain it once you start playing legit.? Which all cheats have to eventually. Those with real ability don't need to cheat to reach their goals. It simply wouldn't make sense for those players to cheat.

No, it is the 'grasping betas' (as Fc would say) who cheat. They have the motive. Hence I know that rbelgrod couldn't have been all that good. If he was, then he wouldn't have felt the need to cheat.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:48 am
by king sam
The complaints about the point reset affecting others in games has true validity. However this is a casualty of the system. When the new update came about with auto kicking multis this was another thing that was affected.

If a player takes advantage of farming or gains excessive points from thrown games/secret diplomacy like in this case they receive the point reset effective immediately.

If you want to address this further please take it to the suggs & bugs forum.

Here is the initial post about it.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=89355&start=0

And here was another thread that was posted in concern about it, notice the post about 12 down on the 1st page.
http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=89362

Good Luck,
KS

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:45 am
by Knight2254
Please answer my question -- does he still get to play or is there a ban so he will be kicked out of games -- Kinda important for a game we're playing in -- strategy wise.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:51 am
by jefjef
king achilles wrote:Just to clarify:

A temporary Website Ban just drops the user from waiting games. Until a permanent ban is issued, the involved member will not be kicked out of any current games he is in.


This is your answer Knight.

Re: rbelgrod, Mageplunka, Arish Babil [Blocked/Score Reset/Vaca]

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:11 pm
by kronic69
They have been removed from the Clan.

Kronic