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natty_dread wrote:

MNDuke, what makes you think there's something wrong with the dice? How do you know they are not supposed to act exactly the way they do?

Pedronicus wrote:

natty_dread wrote:

MNDuke, what makes you think there's something wrong with the dice? How do you know they are not supposed to act exactly the way they do?

because they are fucking shit you moron

MNDuke wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:

jimboston wrote:

MNDuke wrote:Why do the dice seem to have no basis in reality? The improbable always wins. The dice extremes that you expect to rarely see happen all the time do and the dice you'd expect to see are no where to be found. When did the probability of winning a 5v1 change to 10%, because that's where we seem to be now. The dice are so fucked up. Fix that shit already.

Yeah... f*ck that shit.

Dice-Bitch Thread Number 1237; Star Date 01.26.2011

Where everyone has gone before.


--Andy

The almost clever monkey chimes in yet again. So nice of you to always be for such an obviously broke system...why do I get the succinct feeling that you are a former member of the Bush administration?

MNDuke wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

MNDuke wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

MNDuke wrote:Why do the dice seem to have no basis in reality? The improbable always wins. The dice extremes that you expect to rarely see happen all the time do and the dice you'd expect to see are no where to be found. When did the probability of winning a 5v1 change to 10%, because that's where we seem to be now. The dice are so fucked up. Fix that shit already.

Why ARE you still here? I'm not trying to drive you off...I simply do not understand why someone would frequent a business that they are so clearly and so consistently angered and disgusted by. It'd almost certainly help your blood pressure if you left.

I knew there was a reason why I had you foed. Thanks for reminding me.

You foe someone for asking you relevant and critical questions? You seriously need some perspective, dude.

MNDuke wrote:You don't have to read these threads. Next time simply ignore them and move on. Pretend they don't exist.

Why would I want to do that? I'm not the one angered here.

MNDuke wrote:As for why I am still here...I have already paid for membership. It's not like I am paying for each time I log in. If I bought a year's worth of BigMacs and then they decided to change it to 1 patty instead of 2, I would still eat them, but would bitch that they aren't as good as before. DUH! I plan on running out the rest of my membership at which time I will not renew. Until then, I intend on championing for the dice to be fixed. You don't have to like that, but you sure as hell can shut up if you don't. Please go wonder back off into the ranks of the annoying where you so truly belong. There's probably a C&A thread you can chime in on.

You seem very angry. You should work on that. Find some perspective - seriously.

Could you be more passive aggressive? Ugh. I hate to break it to you, but Vulcans aren't real and you aren't one of them as much as you pretend you don't have emotions. My perspective is clear. It seems it is you who need perspective. Passively aggressively attacking me is not asking relevant and critical questions. Now please, go play with Kirk action figures.

Pedronicus wrote:

natty_dread wrote:

MNDuke, what makes you think there's something wrong with the dice? How do you know they are not supposed to act exactly the way they do?

because they are fucking shit you moron

MNDuke wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

MNDuke wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

MNDuke wrote:Why do the dice seem to have no basis in reality? The improbable always wins. The dice extremes that you expect to rarely see happen all the time do and the dice you'd expect to see are no where to be found. When did the probability of winning a 5v1 change to 10%, because that's where we seem to be now. The dice are so fucked up. Fix that shit already.

Why ARE you still here? I'm not trying to drive you off...I simply do not understand why someone would frequent a business that they are so clearly and so consistently angered and disgusted by. It'd almost certainly help your blood pressure if you left.

I knew there was a reason why I had you foed. Thanks for reminding me.

You foe someone for asking you relevant and critical questions? You seriously need some perspective, dude.

MNDuke wrote:You don't have to read these threads. Next time simply ignore them and move on. Pretend they don't exist.

Why would I want to do that? I'm not the one angered here.

MNDuke wrote:As for why I am still here...I have already paid for membership. It's not like I am paying for each time I log in. If I bought a year's worth of BigMacs and then they decided to change it to 1 patty instead of 2, I would still eat them, but would bitch that they aren't as good as before. DUH! I plan on running out the rest of my membership at which time I will not renew. Until then, I intend on championing for the dice to be fixed. You don't have to like that, but you sure as hell can shut up if you don't. Please go wonder back off into the ranks of the annoying where you so truly belong. There's probably a C&A thread you can chime in on.

You seem very angry. You should work on that. Find some perspective - seriously.

Could you be more passive aggressive?

MNDuke wrote:Ugh. I hate to break it to you, but Vulcans aren't real and you aren't one of them as much as you pretend you don't have emotions.

MNDuke wrote:My perspective is clear. It seems it is you who need perspective. Passively aggressively attacking me is not asking relevant and critical questions. Now please, go play with Kirk action figures.

Woodruff wrote:

MNDuke wrote:My perspective is clear. It seems it is you who need perspective. Passively aggressively attacking me is not asking relevant and critical questions. Now please, go play with Kirk action figures.

You believe this quotation of yours here is a fine example of perspective? And if you don't believe my question to you was relevant, you really do need some perspective. As I said, I truly do not understand frequenting a business that so frequently angers and disgusts you. Whether you've paid for a service already does not account for continuing to use that service under those circumstances.

If I had a year's worth of free Big Macs but got sick of eating Big Macs, I would not continue to eat them simply because they did not cost me anything. That doesn't even seem like a rational thing to do, to be honest.

ljex wrote:

Woodruff wrote:

MNDuke wrote:My perspective is clear. It seems it is you who need perspective. Passively aggressively attacking me is not asking relevant and critical questions. Now please, go play with Kirk action figures.

You believe this quotation of yours here is a fine example of perspective? And if you don't believe my question to you was relevant, you really do need some perspective. As I said, I truly do not understand frequenting a business that so frequently angers and disgusts you. Whether you've paid for a service already does not account for continuing to use that service under those circumstances.

If I had a year's worth of free Big Macs but got sick of eating Big Macs, I would not continue to eat them simply because they did not cost me anything. That doesn't even seem like a rational thing to do, to be honest.

I believe the term for what you are referring to is Sunk Costs, meaning that you have already incurred the expense of premium membership and because there is no way to get it back you should not account for it in any future decisions.

MNDuke wrote:

Pedronicus wrote:because they are fucking shit you moron

I think this might be the most intelligent response in the whole thread.

Master Fenrir wrote:I think a better comparison would be somebody from McDonalds gives Duke a cup of coffee labeled "hot" every day. And every day Duke throws the coffee in his own face and then yells, "Oh my God! This coffee is hot! Why is this so hot?! This coffee should be less hot!"

Master Fenrir wrote:I think a better comparison would be somebody from McDonalds gives Duke a cup of coffee labeled "hot" every day. And every day Duke throws the coffee in his own face and then yells, "Oh my God! This coffee is hot! Why is this so hot?! This coffee should be less hot!"

WestWind wrote:

Master Fenrir wrote:I think a better comparison would be somebody from McDonalds gives Duke a cup of coffee labeled "hot" every day. And every day Duke throws the coffee in his own face and then yells, "Oh my God! This coffee is hot! Why is this so hot?! This coffee should be less hot!"

I think a better comparison would be if McDonald's promised an average coffee temperature of 155 degrees F. Except instead of ever actually being near 155 degrees, the coffee is either ice-cold or near boiling. I'd be throwing that coffee out too.

But hey, as long as the average is fine, who cares right?

WestWind wrote:

Master Fenrir wrote:I think a better comparison would be somebody from McDonalds gives Duke a cup of coffee labeled "hot" every day. And every day Duke throws the coffee in his own face and then yells, "Oh my God! This coffee is hot! Why is this so hot?! This coffee should be less hot!"

I think a better comparison would be if McDonald's promised an average coffee temperature of 155 degrees F. Except instead of ever actually being near 155 degrees, the coffee is either ice-cold or near boiling. I'd be throwing that coffee out too.

natty_dread wrote:Whine whine whine whine bitch bitch bitch bitch. Man, I love these threads. They remind me of teenage girls on their first periods, for some reason.


MNDuke, what makes you think there's something wrong with the dice? How do you know they are not supposed to act exactly the way they do?

Based off my real world experiences and how the dice used to behave or at least how I perceived them to behave. The dice now are far too streaky and unbalanced. Sure in the long run or grand scheme of things you can tell me they balance out, because if I'm getting bad dice in one game I'll get good ones in another to make up for it. But that notion is just plain ridiculous and not an acceptable nor rational response. Game to game the dice should be less streaky. That has been my whole point all along. Unbalanced dice create lousy games and takes away from the fun and experience of the site. They should be freak occurrences and not happy at the frequency that they do. It's like being struck by lightning 50% of the time I go out in a thunderstorm.

natty_dread wrote:

Based off my real world experiences and how the dice used to behave or at least how I perceived them to behave. The dice now are far too streaky and unbalanced. Sure in the long run or grand scheme of things you can tell me they balance out, because if I'm getting bad dice in one game I'll get good ones in another to make up for it. But that notion is just plain ridiculous and not an acceptable nor rational response. Game to game the dice should be less streaky. That has been my whole point all along. Unbalanced dice create lousy games and takes away from the fun and experience of the site. They should be freak occurrences and not happy at the frequency that they do. It's like being struck by lightning 50% of the time I go out in a thunderstorm.

But there are lots of people who claim that they see the same kind of dice rolls in real life as they see in CC. Then you say that you don't see these kinds of dice in real life. Who should I believe? Do you even play dice games in real life?

Like it or not, when dice are involved, they are always an unknown factor. It seems to me, that the best players take advantage of this. They take in account the fact that you can never know how the dice fall, and plan accordingly. Always calculating possibilities, weighing risks against benefits. But never taking the dice for granted.

The worst players, on the other hand, have this notion in their head of how the dice "should" behave. They see an 8v1 for example, and think that "I should definitely be able to win this roll" and do not consider the possibility that they might actually lose that roll. Or they are defending a 10v6 and think "no way is he going to be able to kill my 10" and do not consider that the enemy might actually succeed. Then when the unthinkable happens eventually, that the dice fall the way they "shouldn't" fall, they get all huffy and post dice-bitching threads on the forums, which to the rest of us are extremely annoying and painful to read, because they remind us of whiny little girls who need to man up and stop complaining all the time.

Sorry if this offends your sensitive feelings, but that's just the way I feel.

AndyDufresne wrote:I just took a turn in a team game. I had 13 troops and managed to eliminate 11 opponent troops, with 6 remaining in a stack, plus the 1's left over from conquering the 5 regions. This is factual evidence of something. Now run with it. Hie to your horse.


--Andy

MNDuke wrote:Why, if this isn't the biggest load of crap I've ever read. If you can't ever know how the dice are going to fall, how can you plan accordingly? That doesn't make any sense.

MNDuke wrote:In real life, strategy accounts for something and its very rare that dice are the determining factor in a game.

nikola_milicki wrote:btw natty, ur post are really dumb

UR POST ARE

MNDuke wrote:You are merely bitching about how much you like the dice and dislike dice bitch threads.