Conquer Club

thegreekdog wrote:This is the statement Player made - "Republicans in the South gave rise to the KKK."

This is a false statement. The Repubilcans in the South did not give rise to the KKK. Perhaps a better statement is the conservatives in the South gave rise to the KKK.

There is no argument here, erego please stop arguing about it.

And Player, this is why I get angry with you because you will not admit when you are wrong. Ever.

I don't like you using the term "conservatives" here either.

Perhaps Traditionalists?

I think the most correct sentence would be "Racists in the south gave rise to the KKK" how about that one?

I'm glad we're finally discussing how conservatives are racists in a thread about the Tea Party's influence in the Conservative Political Action Committee. Does this mean there's more light to shed on the Tea Party's poorly concealed dark side?

jimboston wrote:

pimpdave wrote:

jimboston wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:This is true in the sense that the Baptists or Republicans in the south gave rise to the KKK.

Player... the KKK was a Democratic organization... not Republican.

Yeah, and the KKK switched to Republican when a Democrat signed the Civil Rights Act. Saying the Democrats of today are anything like the Democrats of the Reconstruction era is as ignorant as saying the Republicans are the same as they were in 1850.

Not talking about the KKK of today... nor are we talking about the KKK of the 50's and 60's.

Player was implying that the KKK was formed by Republicans... that Republicans "gave rise" to the KKK. That's simply false.

You are correct that I was wrong, and I mistyped.

As for admitting I am wrong.. more than a few people here will testify that I have admitted error on many occasions. sometimes more than once in the same day.

pimpdave wrote:I'm glad we're finally discussing how conservatives are racists in a thread about the Tea Party's influence in the Conservative Political Action Committee. Does this mean there's more light to shed on the Tea Party's poorly concealed dark side?

So conservatives in 1860 are the same as conservatives in 2011?

pimpdave wrote:I'm glad we're finally discussing how conservatives are racists in a thread about the Tea Party's influence in the Conservative Political Action Committee. Does this mean there's more light to shed on the Tea Party's poorly concealed dark side?

No one but you is saying conservatives are racists. (for the record, some are, some are not).

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:I'm glad we're finally discussing how conservatives are racists in a thread about the Tea Party's influence in the Conservative Political Action Committee. Does this mean there's more light to shed on the Tea Party's poorly concealed dark side?

So conservatives in 1860 are the same as conservatives in 2011?

The KKK still exists today and is the militant wing of the conservative movement. That was established above. I suppose they're being replaced by the Tea Party though, given the rhetoric spewing from Tea Party leaders and spokespeople.

pimpdave wrote:
The KKK still exists today and is the militant wing of the conservative movement. That was established above. I suppose they're being replaced by the Tea Party though, given the rhetoric spewing from Tea Party leaders and spokespeople.

Pimpdave... you are NOT Saxi.

You do not get to make a statement in one post... and then refer to that statement three posts later claiming it as 'established fact'.

You might think you are that good... but only Saxi can pull that one off.

Sorry.

Please try again later.

pimpdave wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:I'm glad we're finally discussing how conservatives are racists in a thread about the Tea Party's influence in the Conservative Political Action Committee. Does this mean there's more light to shed on the Tea Party's poorly concealed dark side?

So conservatives in 1860 are the same as conservatives in 2011?

The KKK still exists today and is the militant wing of the conservative movement. That was established above. I suppose they're being replaced by the Tea Party though, given the rhetoric spewing from Tea Party leaders and spokespeople.

No, the KKK is not "the militant wing of the conservative movement". The KKK is one militant group against blacks, Jews and Roman Catholics (Kinks, Kykes and Katholiks).

Nor is the Tea Party equivalent to "conservative". Not all Tea Partiers (even all designated tea party groups) are conservative, except in regards to taxes. This is particularly true regarding "social" issues.

And while many within the Tea Party might be racist, many others are not. (debate rages about some of the leadership).

And they also hate Native Americans and Mexicans/Hispanics. It depends on where the KKK chapter is located. They hate whatever minority is there, they are flexible like that.
My grandmother mentioned a few times how they would ride onto the reservation and abduct a young boy. They'd beat him, and then release him outside of the reservation. When the reservation's police would catch one of them, the local police would tell them they had no jurisdiction over whites and demand that person's release into their custody. But when an NA was arrested they would not give them the same courtesy.
And my Mexican cousin who lives out in California says that the KKK still passes out fliers about the "Wetback Invasion" and how they will steal away white wages. Not as much violence though.

pimpdave wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:
The Tea Party thrives on the first amendment. How can you get the issues so perverted?

So then how do you square that with the Tea Party-wide effort to eradicate all Muslims from the organization?

one at a time please.

How can it be Tea Party wide, if every person in my group is surprised by this information, has never heard of this information, and DOESN'T AGREE with this information. I tell my congressman, Keith Ellison(in case you didn't know he's the first Muslim congressman in US history), he needs to join the Tea Party all the time (Jesse Ventura too!). He is a regular on a local conservative talk show, and it truly is a model for civility in political debate. Despite being a Democrat, he works often together with Michelle Bachmann. If I told you I voted for Ralph Nader in 2004, perhaps you would be able to set all your preconceptions aside and actually see my words instead of the feeding the impulse to fit me into an engineered symbol by your political masters who get a kick out of playing the masses.


You may also want to reference this with a previous post of mine. You must have seen it, it was in your thread...or maybe you lost track of all the threads. Either way, it's right here

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=137486&p=3004691&hilit=keith+ellison#p3004691

So really, the number 1 Tea Bagger you know. yours truly, is already on record (in your thread) as being the opposite of what you accuse him of being. My question to you now is, why in the world would you throw information in my face, when it is already crystal clear the information you threw does not match up with the information you already have on the topic?

And my answer to your question is, I don't square it. You have it perverted.

pimpdave wrote:

jimboston wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:This is true in the sense that the Baptists or Republicans in the south gave rise to the KKK.

Player... the KKK was a Democratic organization... not Republican.

Yeah, and the KKK switched to Republican when a Democrat signed the Civil Rights Act. Saying the Democrats of today are anything like the Democrats of the Reconstruction era is as ignorant as saying the Republicans are the same as they were in 1850.

So I guess it didn't take much to totally reverse the previous 150 years of history Democrat's owned. 1 democrat signed it! POOF!!!!
I suppose it was a lot easier considering they took over the schools and we are now into our second level of "The dumbest generation".

Can I just ask, when you think of a slave owner whipping his slave, do you think about him being a democrat? or is he a republican?
When you think about the people who fought against freeing the slaves, do you think about the Democrats? I do

Juan_Bottom wrote:And they also hate Native Americans and Mexicans/Hispanics. It depends on where the KKK chapter is located. They hate whatever minority is there, they are flexible like that.
My grandmother mentioned a few times how they would ride onto the reservation and abduct a young boy. They'd beat him, and then release him outside of the reservation. When the reservation's police would catch one of them, the local police would tell them they had no jurisdiction over whites and demand that person's release into their custody. But when an NA was arrested they would not give them the same courtesy.
And my Mexican cousin who lives out in California says that the KKK still passes out fliers about the "Wetback Invasion" and how they will steal away white wages. Not as much violence though.

Not to spin this off, but this is the problem with rape on many reservations as well. In some areas, the FBI is technically supposed to prosecute whites who commit crimes on the reservations, but they are too busy.

I can't follow that link, I'm afraid I might get a virus.

Are you a leader in the Tea Party? None of this is directed at you, I just thought we could speculate about how the Tea Party will handle the Muslim infiltration of their organization. Loyalty oaths maybe?

How would the Muslim Brotherhood handle an infiltration of Tea Baggers?

pimpdave wrote:I'm sorry I can't follow that link, I'm afraid I might get a virus.

Are you a leader in the Tea Party? None of this is directed at you, I just thought we could speculate about how the Tea Party will handle the Muslim infiltration of their organization. Loyalty oaths maybe?

I really can see why you are afraid of a ConquerClub link to your own thread.

You directed this at me, and millions of others, when you said "Tea Party wide effort".

I also see by your response, all of the issues at hand are already passed up and we are moving to backtracking an focusing on what someone said or how they said it? It really didn't take long, did it.

pimpdave wrote:I just thought we could speculate about how the Tea Party will handle the Muslim infiltration of their organization. Loyalty oaths maybe?

How would the Muslim Brotherhood handle an infiltration of Tea Baggers?

What if they made them swear an oath on the Bible or something?

pimpdave wrote:Conservative Political Action Committee

This thread makes more sense to me now. In Canada, CPAC is the equivalent of (I believe) CSPAN.

pimpdave wrote:

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:I'm glad we're finally discussing how conservatives are racists in a thread about the Tea Party's influence in the Conservative Political Action Committee. Does this mean there's more light to shed on the Tea Party's poorly concealed dark side?

So conservatives in 1860 are the same as conservatives in 2011?

The KKK still exists today and is the militant wing of the conservative movement. That was established above. I suppose they're being replaced by the Tea Party though, given the rhetoric spewing from Tea Party leaders and spokespeople.

So by your logic the eco-terrorists are the militant wing of the liberal movement. Glad to know we're putting everyone in their proper places, no matter their political persuasion.

Deal. We'll take the eco-terrorists.

Eco-terrorists aren't liberal. Also, they're a much smaller population than the racist, violent Tea Party, who flew a plane into an IRS building!

pimpdave wrote:Eco-terrorists aren't liberal. Also, they're a much smaller population than the racist, violent Tea Party, who flew a plane into an IRS building!

Will you also claim La Raza, SDS, Weather Underground and similar organizations? There's actual proof that they're violent, but you still have failed to show any actual violence by the Tea Party. You've just shown words that hurt your feelings, not actions that actually cause destruction, harm, or even death.

I forgot, this is 1974, so those references still hold water.

spurgistan wrote:I forgot, this is 1974, so those references still hold water.

Oh, sorry, how about an SEIU member beating up a black Tea Party member. I guess it's not the Tea Party members who are the racists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFeUhSlHiUQ

jimboston wrote:

pimpdave wrote:
The KKK still exists today and is the militant wing of the conservative movement. That was established above. I suppose they're being replaced by the Tea Party though, given the rhetoric spewing from Tea Party leaders and spokespeople.

Pimpdave... you are NOT Saxi.

You do not get to make a statement in one post... and then refer to that statement three posts later claiming it as 'established fact'.

You might think you are that good... but only Saxi can pull that one off.

Sorry.

Please try again later.

Hey, regarding your avatar. Family Guy hasn't been funny for at least three or four seasons now. It has gone the way of The Simpsons, except it likes to be controversial from time to time. American Dad is funnier and has intellectual themes. Watch that. Maybe update your avatar to Roger, he's funnier than Stewie ever was.

Night Strike wrote:

pimpdave wrote:Eco-terrorists aren't liberal. Also, they're a much smaller population than the racist, violent Tea Party, who flew a plane into an IRS building!

Will you also claim La Raza, SDS, Weather Underground and similar organizations? There's actual proof that they're violent, but you still have failed to show any actual violence by the Tea Party. You've just shown words that hurt your feelings, not actions that actually cause destruction, harm, or even death.

He knows all this. He just doesn't care.

This actually turned out to not have happened