Conquer Club

Ha I love mandy's theories, mad as they are -

Any case against Rodion will invoke the terminator mafia game.

safariguy5 wrote:3. Noob Bias: Whenever a newer player joins a game, usually gets picked on for very obvious scumtells even if they don't know what they're doing is scummy.

4. Mod Bias: If a mod is perceived as being particularly fond crazy/unbalanced setups, players tend to be more receptive to convoluted theories over the most simple ones. Can work in reverse if mod is perceived as being balanced in setup.

5. Activity Bias: Any player who posts regularly will generally be looked upon as more townish than the player who posts less frequently.

#4 is extremely true - even when I've intentionally nerfed the game, it was perceived as highly complicated due to what I've said while promoting it and due to my reputation as creating highly complex games.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

strike wolf wrote:1. The right-wrong bias: the thought process that sometimes forms when one person campaigns heavily for one case on a person and the accused dies as town then the person who campaigned for his lynch is more likely scum. Or if the accuser dies then the accused is that much more likely to be scum.

Funny story:
The other night I was the narrator for a RL mafia game that was going on in my dorm (I have corrupted a bunch of people and gotten them hooked). There was a vig who was damn sure he knew who the godfather was N1. Despite his campaigning, he couldn't get enough support from the town to get the lynch. So he ended up killing himself N4 to make the godfather look suspicious. It worked and the godfather was lynched D5. Funniest thing I have ever seen.

If your vig friend is a hot girl, then I think that I'm in love. That is the coolest thing that I ever read.

EDITED: No, it's a dude! Freck and double freck!!

nagerous wrote:Ha I love mandy's theories, mad as they are -

Thank you, Nag.

zimmah wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

safariguy5 wrote:14. Veteran Nightkill Bias: Veteran players tend to be targeted for nightkills early on before they can really get down to scumhunting. The fear is they got a read on a mafia player and will pursue the lead aggressively unless silenced early.

Then the surviving veterans are likely to be scum and get lynched.

that is n fact a good point.

any surviving veterans that made it through n5 or so should be lynched for this reason alone.

Actually, this depends. When I am scum, my N1 priority is to figure out the best player among those who are unlikely to be protected. I would never target one of the most senior veteran players on N1, from fear of wasting that night's kill.

15. No mafia player ever retires permanently. They all come back sooner or later.

Bumping this. Perhaps a sticky or a link in one of the intro threads?

DoomYoshi wrote:Bumping this. Perhaps a sticky or a link in one of the intro threads?

Maybe a link. I don't think it's worth a sticky by any means.

safariguy5 wrote:15. No mafia player ever retires permanently. They all come back sooner or later.

That's not true.

Haha love this thread, some beltors in here.

I'd like to add:

Effort Bias: If someone prevents long winded defensive posts then they are less likely to be voted as it requires too much effort to lynch them.

Play Style Bias: If someone has an unfamiliar or unconventional play style they are more likely to be seen as scummy even if they always play that way.

Activity Action Bias: The players who talk the most are usually the most prone to having actions taken against them.

Friend Bias: People are more likely to trust their friends and protect them in games. *cough* clever *cough*

pmchugh wrote:Haha love this thread, some beltors in here.

I'd like to add:

Effort Bias: If someone prevents long winded defensive posts then they are less likely to be voted as it requires too much effort to lynch them.

For some reason, when some players lock their votes on me (Strike, for instance), I die. There is no ammount of effort or logic I can conjure to avoid that. It's really frustrating.

pmchugh wrote:
Friend Bias: People are more likely to trust their friends and protect them in games. *cough* clever *cough*

I think enough virtual white russians have been knocked back with me and tails too. At least I'd like to think that.

safariguy5 wrote:

pmchugh wrote:
Friend Bias: People are more likely to trust their friends and protect them in games. *cough* clever *cough*

I think enough virtual white russians have been knocked back with me and tails too. At least I'd like to think that.

It's kind of different for me. The people who I get along with better I tend to accuse more...maybe it's a "you tend to think like me so why aren't we agreeing bias". It's one of the reasons, I can at times be very critical of you, edoc, Comm9 and pancake in particular. Nothing to do with Rodion. Rodion's just always scummy

safariguy5 wrote:

pmchugh wrote:
Friend Bias: People are more likely to trust their friends and protect them in games. *cough* clever *cough*

I think enough virtual white russians have been knocked back with me and tails too. At least I'd like to think that.

Now I think I need to have one. It's a good thing I keep a half gallon of home made kahlúa at all times.

But yeah, I think this bias is pretty closely related to my own bias; I hardly ever inv., kill, or pursue cases on players such as you or strike, who practice cautious, rational play, i.e. guys I could have a beer with. I honestly have a hard time ever getting substantive reads on you. Plus, I think it's more fun to have experienced, skillful players at end-game for all the potential of twists. Mostly I find myself responding to eccentric or super-talkative players who play unguardedly (not a word, I know).

-Tails

I guess the friend thing can work different ways. When you are mafia for instance, some people are more inclined to kill their friends for a laugh where as others would want to keep them in the game.

pmchugh wrote:I guess the friend thing can work different ways. When you are mafia for instance, some people are more inclined to kill their friends for a laugh where as others would want to keep them in the game.

Can friend bias work the other way? You're always voting me!

nagerous wrote:

pmchugh wrote:I guess the friend thing can work different ways. When you are mafia for instance, some people are more inclined to kill their friends for a laugh where as others would want to keep them in the game.

Can friend bias work the other way? You're always voting me!

Yeah defo, I am always trying to kill you too haha. I just like to see you lose the plot and get so mad you become useless for the rest of the game

pmchugh wrote:

nagerous wrote:

pmchugh wrote:I guess the friend thing can work different ways. When you are mafia for instance, some people are more inclined to kill their friends for a laugh where as others would want to keep them in the game.

Can friend bias work the other way? You're always voting me!

Yeah defo, I am always trying to kill you too haha. I just like to see you lose the plot and get so mad you become useless for the rest of the game

So therefore, it can come down to a player's personality as you try to subtly influence them? Hmm....

pmchugh wrote:Haha love this thread, some beltors in here.

I'd like to add:

Effort Bias: If someone prevents long winded defensive posts then they are less likely to be voted as it requires too much effort to lynch them.

Play Style Bias: If someone has an unfamiliar or unconventional play style they are more likely to be seen as scummy even if they always play that way.

Activity Action Bias: The players who talk the most are usually the most prone to having actions taken against them.

Friend Bias: People are more likely to trust their friends and protect them in games. *cough* clever *cough*

this one is very true and should actually be the opposite, but in reality, it's true.

Rodion wrote:

pmchugh wrote:Haha love this thread, some beltors in here.

I'd like to add:

Effort Bias: If someone prevents long winded defensive posts then they are less likely to be voted as it requires too much effort to lynch them.

For some reason, when some players lock their votes on me (Strike, for instance), I die. There is no ammount of effort or logic I can conjure to avoid that. It's really frustrating.

Sheep bias: whenever one player votes for another player, a lot of players tend to join the bandwagon no matter what kind of defense you pull off.

zimmah wrote:

Rodion wrote:

pmchugh wrote:Haha love this thread, some beltors in here.

I'd like to add:

Effort Bias: If someone prevents long winded defensive posts then they are less likely to be voted as it requires too much effort to lynch them.

For some reason, when some players lock their votes on me (Strike, for instance), I die. There is no ammount of effort or logic I can conjure to avoid that. It's really frustrating.

Sheep bias: whenever one player votes for another player, a lot of players tend to join the bandwagon no matter what kind of defense you pull off.

This is tied to the experience and perceived credibility of the player bringing the case about.

pmchugh wrote:I guess the friend thing can work different ways. When you are mafia for instance, some people are more inclined to kill their friends for a laugh where as others would want to keep them in the game.

I personally try to keep my friends around. ALthough trolling is fun. ;3

Also adding:

The Silleh Bais: Players who are often silleh are often taken less seriously than those that play very seriously.

Once A Lurker Bais: If you have a reputation for being a lurker, you're always gonna be suspected of being one. x3