Conquer Club

Phatscotty wrote:Well yeah, we are a free country, so of course we have the highest "conservative" representation in the world.

Correlation =/= Causation; fyi

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

What if silly really spelled scotty?

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

what if you understood no taxation without representation, rather than twist our history to suit your needs of the day?

those taxpayers had a good point though.

Phatscotty wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

what if you understood no taxation without representation, rather than twist our history to suit your needs of the day?

those taxpayers had a good point though.

Is this where I get to point out that I pay sales tax in the US and don't get any representation for my tax dollars? Or are we still on the revolutionary principle of "Ok, some taxation without representation!"

Symmetry wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

what if you understood no taxation without representation, rather than twist our history to suit your needs of the day?

those taxpayers had a good point though.

Is this where I get to point out that I pay sales tax in the US and don't get any representation for my tax dollars? Or are we still on the revolutionary principle of "Ok, some taxation without representation!"

yes, we will have a foreign election to elect politicians to represent people in foreign countries asap. Who will you vote for?

pretty sure you need to be a citizen to be represented, just like you need to be a citizen to.....vote/be represented

Phatscotty wrote:

Symmetry wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

what if you understood no taxation without representation, rather than twist our history to suit your needs of the day?

those taxpayers had a good point though.

Is this where I get to point out that I pay sales tax in the US and don't get any representation for my tax dollars? Or are we still on the revolutionary principle of "Ok, some taxation without representation!"

yes, we will have a foreign election to elect politicians to represent people in foreign countries asap. Who will you vote for?

Write in vote for Biden. I've been following his policies closely on the Onion, and he seems like the kind of guy I could have a beer with.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-vicepresidency-of-joe-biden,18444/

Phatscotty wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

what if you understood no taxation without representation, rather than twist our history to suit your needs of the day?

those taxpayers had a good point though.

So youre saying that the general population wasnt complaining because the taxes were increased?

As far as the history goes, there was a massive draught at the time in India, and England was losing revenue, and raised the taxes in the New World to keep the income flowing. The increase in the tax on tea lead to the tea party, and their slogan was absolutely "no taxation without representation", however, it was very much the increase in tax that sparked the movement.

If the tax was lowered or removed, its fairly improbable that there would have been a tea party at all.

Similarly, if the big banks and many wall street firms did not engage in multiple acts of fraud that resulted in a massive economic disaster that the average american essentially is ultimately paying, than its fairly certain, there would not have been an Occupy Wall Street movement....

So, I do hope perhaps the actual history, helps you.

I agree with you though, they had a good point.

However, if the massive draught didnt happen, its very possible neither would have the tea party, or the subsequent revolution, and if it didnt happen then, its certainly impossible to know how it would have played out.

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:

AAFitz wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:What if "Occupy Wall Street" was named "Regulate Wall Street"?

What if CAT really spelled Dog?

What if Tea Party was named after our original Tea Party, which was a movement that fought the King and other Nobles taxing the general population too much, and reaping all the rewards?

what if you understood no taxation without representation, rather than twist our history to suit your needs of the day?

those taxpayers had a good point though.

So youre saying that the general population wasnt complaining because the taxes were increased?

I'm saying what I just said. They were not represented.

you see, the taxpayers money was taken from the taxpayers and redistributed to other groups (who did not pay those taxes) None of the taxpayer money was spent on things for the taxpayers.

They got pissed. The rest is history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXGrQ9uiLSo

AAFitz wrote:As far as the history goes, there was a massive draught at the time in India, and England was losing revenue, and raised the taxes in the New World to keep the income flowing. The increase in the tax on tea lead to the tea party, and their slogan was absolutely "no taxation without representation", however, it was very much the increase in tax that sparked the movement.

If the tax was lowered or removed, its fairly improbable that there would have been a tea party at all.

Erm, you are aware that the historical tea party wasn't a movement, right? And that they didn't have a slogan?

That's not really true, it was a movement, just a rapidly developed and confined movement. There was organization and planning, albeit loose. Criticizing the slogan part seems like nitpicking, that was a well known expression/viewpoint of what a fair amount of people thought, even if they didn't parade around with banners saying it.

dcowboys055 wrote:That's not really true, it was a movement, just a rapidly developed and confined movement. There was organization and planning, albeit loose. Criticizing the slogan part seems like nitpicking, that was a well known expression/viewpoint of what a fair amount of people thought, even if they didn't parade around with banners saying it.

I see it as a historical event rather than a movement. While I can understand that there was a wider movement, and that that was one of their slogans, the Boston Tea Party was not a movement.

Well there was some other activities that went on in conjunction with the actual dumping of the tea into the harbor, but I suppose as most people think of it as just the dumping, then yeah it's an event. I think of the dumping of the tea as part of the small civil guerilla resistance that went on in those few weeks/month since I read a cool book about it. Lol implied knowledge!

dcowboys055 wrote:Well there was some other activities that went on in conjunction with the actual dumping of the tea into the harbor, but I suppose as most people think of it as just the dumping, then yeah it's an event. I think of the dumping of the tea as part of the small civil guerilla resistance that went on in those few weeks/month since I read a cool book about it. Lol implied knowledge!

That's a fair point, and context is fine. I just tend to take the Tea Party part to refer to the specific event rather than the movement surrounding it.

dcowboys055 wrote:Well there was some other activities that went on in conjunction with the actual dumping of the tea into the harbor, but I suppose as most people think of it as just the dumping, then yeah it's an event. I think of the dumping of the tea as part of the small civil guerilla resistance that went on in those few weeks/month since I read a cool book about it. Lol implied knowledge!

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury

Don't forget the Stamp Act of 1765

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