Conquer Club

Army of GOD wrote:if you don't want to lose 100 points then don't join a god damn game where you can lose 100 points

or play this guy

iAmCaffeine wrote:

loutil wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Relevant suggestions:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=199877

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=193115

Those are both good suggestions but clearly went nowhere.
I would love to play more tournaments but hate the point beating I usually take even when winning. Suspending points for tournament play would be a good idea in my opinion. Rank would not matter as we would just be playing for medals.

That would kill off tournaments more than they already have been, and see a great increase in the amount of farming tournaments which are already too abundant as it is.

That seems counter intuitive to me. I would be joining tournaments all the time if points were suspended. Further, how can you farm if their are no points. Tournaments should be about victory and not points. Most people I know join tournaments to get the medal or test themselves. I have never heard anyone say they are joining a tournament to gain points...

loutil wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

loutil wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Relevant suggestions:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=199877

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=193115

Those are both good suggestions but clearly went nowhere.
I would love to play more tournaments but hate the point beating I usually take even when winning. Suspending points for tournament play would be a good idea in my opinion. Rank would not matter as we would just be playing for medals.

That would kill off tournaments more than they already have been, and see a great increase in the amount of farming tournaments which are already too abundant as it is.

That seems counter intuitive to me. I would be joining tournaments all the time if points were suspended. Further, how can you farm if their are no points. Tournaments should be about victory and not points. Most people I know join tournaments to get the medal or test themselves. I have never heard anyone say they are joining a tournament to gain points...

Terrible idea.
If it weren't for points in tournaments, not only would I have almost 0 games for actual points, I would still be a lieutenant (or worse) and would have never joined a clan.

I know what you mean by some tournaments not being point friendly, even when winnable. But, they're still games, and if you're not willing to risk the points, then don;t play.

Ridiculous... there should be no cap number of points at all.... ever.

JPlo64 wrote:

loutil wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

loutil wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Relevant suggestions:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=199877

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=193115

Those are both good suggestions but clearly went nowhere.
I would love to play more tournaments but hate the point beating I usually take even when winning. Suspending points for tournament play would be a good idea in my opinion. Rank would not matter as we would just be playing for medals.

That would kill off tournaments more than they already have been, and see a great increase in the amount of farming tournaments which are already too abundant as it is.

That seems counter intuitive to me. I would be joining tournaments all the time if points were suspended. Further, how can you farm if their are no points. Tournaments should be about victory and not points. Most people I know join tournaments to get the medal or test themselves. I have never heard anyone say they are joining a tournament to gain points...

Terrible idea.
If it weren't for points in tournaments, not only would I have almost 0 games for actual points, I would still be a lieutenant (or worse) and would have never joined a clan.

I know what you mean by some tournaments not being point friendly, even when winnable. But, they're still games, and if you're not willing to risk the points, then don;t play.

I was not referring to Clan tournaments like CC5 which are really multi team wars. Rather, I was referring to regular tournaments set up by players. Even the Monthly challenges are uninviting to higher ranked players which is why they almost never participate.

I think betting should cap the minimum odds to evens. (Or 1.0 for non-fractional gamblers) that way it will restrict my losses.

I was not referring to Clan tournaments like CC5 which are really multi team wars. Rather, I was referring to regular tournaments set up by players. Even the Monthly challenges are uninviting to higher ranked players which is why they almost never participate.

I disagree for the monthly challenges. Some are very inviting to high ranked players. This month for example. And btw I am playing in many tournaments. Of course my score is subject to a lot of variations day to day and I won't stay as high as I am now for very long, but you can still maintain a high score, play monthly challenges and tournaments. Many brigs play tournaments without a problem. You just have to accept that your score won't be stable. And I almost never play someone that would make me lose a 100 points, players with such a low score are rare in tournaments.

Donelladan wrote:

I was not referring to Clan tournaments like CC5 which are really multi team wars. Rather, I was referring to regular tournaments set up by players. Even the Monthly challenges are uninviting to higher ranked players which is why they almost never participate.

I disagree for the monthly challenges. Some are very inviting to high ranked players. This month for example. And btw I am playing in many tournaments. Of course my score is subject to a lot of variations day to day and I won't stay as high as I am now for very long, but you can still maintain a high score, play monthly challenges and tournaments. Many brigs play tournaments without a problem. You just have to accept that your score won't be stable. And I almost never play someone that would make me lose a 100 points, players with such a low score are rare in tournaments.

This months challenge is certainly more inviting than most as 1 v 1 poly style usually favors the better player and reduces dice variance. But, when looking at the scoreboard for most challenges it is obvious that it does not attract very many higher ranked players.

loutil wrote:

Donelladan wrote:

I was not referring to Clan tournaments like CC5 which are really multi team wars. Rather, I was referring to regular tournaments set up by players. Even the Monthly challenges are uninviting to higher ranked players which is why they almost never participate.

I disagree for the monthly challenges. Some are very inviting to high ranked players. This month for example. And btw I am playing in many tournaments. Of course my score is subject to a lot of variations day to day and I won't stay as high as I am now for very long, but you can still maintain a high score, play monthly challenges and tournaments. Many brigs play tournaments without a problem. You just have to accept that your score won't be stable. And I almost never play someone that would make me lose a 100 points, players with such a low score are rare in tournaments.

This months challenge is certainly more inviting than most as 1 v 1 poly style usually favors the better player and reduces dice variance. But, when looking at the scoreboard for most challenges it is obvious that it does not attract very many higher ranked players.

Looking at the scoreboards isn't often very helpful because you'll just see the low-mid ranks who've gotten challenge points by spamming games. Not always, but usually.

I appreciate the argument you're trying to make regarding tournaments with no points, but I believe you're in the severe minority. I can name several players that will hold 2400+ playing all kinds of tournaments and a few players will hold 2700+ doing the same. If points are removed from tournaments that entire section of CC will die. It's already dwindling compared to it's former presence, just like the entire site, but without points why would we play? Sure, we get medals, just like we get medals for all other games. The next step would be to eliminate points from clan wars.

I believe JP was referring to normal tournaments, not clan tournaments. Lots of clans have players that play in a lot of tournaments and people will discover the clan scene by playing with and against them in tournies.