Conquer Club

Fallen is in for the FoW rule.

Just a note from CD perspective as part of the competition however, the remakes would not be enforced through the CD's. But if everyone makes the required posting about what was accidentally hit / neighboring etc it wouldn't be an issue anyway.

Agent 86 wrote:

codierose wrote:what rules are associated with your fog apart from the 12hr lol

You oppose this, why? Looks like all the top clans enjoy the gentleman's agreement.

We have always honoured the 12hour fog rule in wars. It's a courtesy thing.

Fog of War Vote
so far: 11 yes 0 no

YES
1. FOED
2. TOFU
3. ACE
4. RET
5. MM
6. KORT
7. IA
8. TSM
9. TNC
10. FALL
11. LEG
12.

NO
1.

IcePack wrote:the remakes would not be enforced through the CD's

then take out the remake clause, just have the courtesy rule?

12 hour Fog of War rule in effect. If broken, the offending team has to copy/paste
game log and reveal those territories that would have been visible to opposing team.
The rule does not apply to conquest maps or where the only action is deploy/fort without attacks.

That would be fine

Gentlemen's rule I have no problem with. The rule with penalties i do.
Yes from ++the legion++ to the gentlemen's agreement.

codierose wrote:Gentlemen's rule I have no problem with. The rule with penalties i do.
Yes from ++the legion++ to the gentlemen's agreement.

Now I know what you're saying, penalty for not following the 12hr rule if it's in place. Looks like that won't be a problem, so anyone heard from RA on their opinion? Well I've informed the clan that the 12hr rule is in place for all fog games except for conquest maps. We are happy about this and won't need to label games as such.

86

First in, best dressed

TOFU vs LEG - Home games

Dubs:
[game]14909276[/game] - Draknor - Nuclear, Adj, Fog, Trench - Catnipdreams, Fulch
[game]14909278[/game] - Lunar - No Spoils, Chained, Fog - Jackal31, Armandolas

Trips:
[game]14909282[/game] - Sydney Metro - No Spoils, Chained, Fog - Denise, Deli, MudPuppy
[game]14909283[/game] - Poison Rome - No Spoils, Chained, Fog - Denise, Dualta, Jabajabba
[game]14909286[/game] - Indian Empire - No Spoils, Adj, Fog, Trench - Arama86n, Casper, Denise

Quads:
[game]14909297[/game] - Hive - Nuclear, Unlimited, Fog - Deli, Kexor, Catnipdreams, Chrispond
[game]14909300[/game] - Eurasia - No Spoils, Chained, Fog, Trench - Kex, Casper, Hopalong, Tim
[game]14909306[/game] - Das Schloss - No Spoils, Chained, Fog - Dualta, Deli, Armando, Chrispond

ACE vs. TSM
Doubles
[game]14912148[/game] Vertex NS, CH, FOG - jj3044, PaRKoN
[game]14912149[/game] Baseball ESC, FOG, CH, TRENCH - IanG7, kjg21

Triples
[game]14912154[/game] Dark Continent NS, FOG, CH - slaylark, swimmerdude99, jj3044
[game]14912156[/game] New Zealand NS, CH, FOG - jj3044, JJ41375, PaRKoN
[game]14912158[/game] Cuban Missile Crisis ESC, FOG, CH - jetsetwilly, Crazysnakeguy, swimmerdude99

Quads
[game]14912159[/game] Conquer 500 NS, FOG, CH, TRENCH - JJ41375, PaRKoN, slaylark, swimmerdude99
[game]14912161[/game] Salem's Switch NS, FOG, CH - hyposquasher, skillfusniper33, kjg21, Jackofalltrades
[game]14912163[/game] Kings Court II NS, FOG, CH - Geger, Hook2, slaylark, kjg21

R1 MM v RA (fog)

Good luck gentlemen

D1: Arms Race;NS;C;F - william tennant/general cod [game]14913250[/game]
D2: D-Day;NS;C;F;T - Tennisie/Lord Arioch [game]14913251[/game]
T1: Trench Warfare;NS;C;F - loutil/Blitzkrieg Frank/BigBallinStalin [game]14913254[/game]
T2: Berlin 1961;NS;C;F - Tennisie/TheMissionary/hlbart [game]14913255[/game]
T3: Northwest Passage;NS;C;F - william tennant/general cod/Matt2006 [game]14913264[/game]
Q1: Third Crusade;NS;C;F - loutil/BigBallinStalin/Nola_Lifer/Lockup [game]14913293[/game]
Q2: WWI Ottoman Empire;NS;C;F - BigBallinStalin/Nola_Lifer/Lord Arioch/Liveoak [game]14913295[/game]
Q3: Feudal Epic;Esc;C;F - drpall/Lockup/enjoycocacola/Liveoak [game]14913297[/game]

R1 MM v RA (fog)

R1 FOED vs IA (fog)

Dubs
1. Route 66 - zombie, chained, fog - uckuki, JPlo64 [game]14913446[/game]
2. Dark Continent - flat, chained, fog - Robespierre__, Fyrdraca [game]14913450[/game]

Trips
1. Three Kingdoms Of Korea - esc, chained, fog - uckuki, Robespierre__, RobbieDub [game]14913455[/game]
2. Rorke's Drift - no spoil, chained, sunny - ooge, Kid Moe, woodsy2115 [game]14913458[/game]
3. Classic - esc, chained, sunny - ddgrimes, Royal Panda, dschulman [game]14913459[/game]

Quads
1. WWII Australia - flat, chained, fog - uckuki, JPlo64, timogl, Kid Moe [game]14913469[/game]
2. San Francisco - esc, chained, sunny - AlbroShlo, MNDuke, Royal Panda, dschulman [game]14913474[/game]
3. Conquer Rome - no spoils, chained, fog, trench 20 rounds - Avi8or, woodsy2115, ElricTheGreat, nicarus [game]14913479[/game]

gl

RD1 ++LEG++ Vs TOFU
doubles
[game]14913753[/game] AOR 3 fog no chained culs de sac rkcved
[game]14929869[/game] AOR 2 fog esc chained 2007spaceodyssey *pixar* trench

triples
[game]14913794[/game] Prohibition Chicago fog no chained lynch5762 jordy2425 kiwi3
[game]14913800[/game] All Your Base Are Belong To Us fog esc chained culs de sac *pixar* codierose
[game]14913817[/game] route66 fog no chained chemefreak gordito downfall

quads
[game]14913916[/game] Supermax: Prison Riot! fog no chained ubcman64 chemefreak gordito jcstriker
[game]14913927[/game] ww11 poland fog no chained lynch5762 jordy2425 kiwi3 murphy16
[game]14913836[/game] usa 2.1 fog esc chained rkcved fewnix jcstriker 2007spaceodyssey

R1 TSM vs ACE

Round 1
October 5th: TSM vs ACE

Home Games

D: NWPassage:[game]14913787[/game] ns, ch, foggy - osujacket, nate the great
D: Arctic:[game]14913789[/game] ns, ch, sunny - firstholliday, treslie
T: Trafalgar:[game]14913791[/game]ns, ch, foggy - nate the great, laughing cavalier, junior bee
T: Age of Merchants:[game]14913793[/game] ns, ch , foggy - , dustin800, friendly1, junior bee
T: WWII Europe:[game]14913795[/game] ns, ch, foggy - larsin, laughingcavalier, sam02
Q: Great Lakes:[game]14913807[/game] ns, ch, foggy - hatchman, skillfull, jcmagno, ender_w99
Q: NYC:[game]14913811[/game] ns, ch, foggy - skillfull, bonomo, risktycoon, dustin800
Q: Supermax:[game]14913812[/game] ns, ch, foggy - osujacket, friendly1, junior bee, treslie

Players Game Count (Alphabetical)
1 blind date 0
2 bonomo101 1
3 codeblue1018 0
4 dustin800 2
5 ender_w99 1
6 firstholliday 1
7 friendly1 2
8 hatchman 1
9 jcmagno 1
10 junior bee 3
11 kratos644 0
12 larsin 1
13 laughingcavalier 2
14 luckywar 0
15 merch313 0
16 nate the great 2
17 osujacket 2
18 risktycoon 1
19 sam02 1
20 skillfull 2
21 treslie 2
22 vuk samotnjak 0

Map Count
Northwest Passage 1
Arctic 1
Trafalgar 1
Age of Merchants 1
World 2.1 1
Great Lakes 1
New York City 1
Supermax: Prison Riot 1

ACE vs. TSM
Doubles
[game]14912148[/game] Vertex NS, CH, FOG - Hatchman, Osujacket
[game]14912149[/game] Baseball ESC, FOG, CH, TRENCH - sam02, skillfull

Triples
[game]14912154[/game] Dark Continent NS, FOG, CH - junior bee, skillfull, friendly1
[game]14912156[/game] New Zealand NS, CH, FOG - bonomo101, ender_w99, risktycoon
[game]14912158[/game] Cuban Missile Crisis ESC, FOG, CH - friendly1, LaughingCavalier, treslie

Quads
[game]14912159[/game] Conquer 500 NS, FOG, CH, TRENCH - junior bee, LaughingCavalier, jcmagno, treslie
[game]14912161[/game] Salem's Switch NS, FOG, CH - nate the great, osujacket, dustin800, risktycoon
[game]14912163[/game] Kings Court II NS, FOG, CH - JCMagno, ender_w99, dustin800, sam02

Players Game Count (Alphabetical)
1 blind date
2 bonomo101 1
3 codeblue1018
4 dustin800 2
5 ender_w99 2
6 firstholliday
7 friendly1 2
8 hatchman 1
9 jcmagno 2
10 junior bee 2
11 kratos644
12 larsin
13 laughingcavalier 2
14 luckywar
15 merch313
16 nate the great 1
17 osujacket 2
18 risktycoon 2
19 sam02 2
20 skillfull 2
21 treslie 2

Round 1 vs KORT

[game]14914841[/game] D: TOG nokelberry triple 6 FR CH FOG
[game]14914856[/game] D: feudal epic rcfritz osman76 NS CH FOG TRENCH
[game]14914856[/game] T: Baltic Crusades graceless_ egel Nolefan5311 NS CH FOG
[game]14914852[/game] T: New World goranz aad0906 tbayjosh NS CH FOG
[game]14914850[/game] T: DS goranz egel nolefan5311 NS CH. FOG
[game]14914849[/game] Q: Antarctica IcePack egel nolefan5311 osman76 ESC CH FOG
[game]14914845[/game] Q: AYB stealth99 graceless_ agentcom aad0906 FR CH FOG
[game]14914841[/game] Q: Stalingrad stealth99 Jefjef rcfritz aad0906 NS CH FOG

R1 RET vs TNC

Dubs: [game]14914495[/game] Dawn Of Ages (NS, Chained, Fog Trench); conde180711, ltrain
Dubs: [game]14914496[/game] City Mogul (NS, Chained, Fog); Steve The Mighty, trlester
Trips: [game]14914497[/game] New World (NS, Chained, Fog); Al B. Damned, spanishclaret, sonofabs
Trips: [game]14914499[/game] Lunar War (NS, Chained, Fog); therealdeal_37, conde180711, trevor33
Trips: [game]14914500[/game] Pearl Harbor (NS, Chained, Fog Trench); therealdeal_37, conde180711, Anthrax821
Quads: [game]14914503[/game] Tribal War - Ancient Israel (NS, Sunny, Chained); The_Samurai, currahee68, schiballs, chakon
Quads: [game]14914504[/game] Conquer 500 (NS, Chained, Fog) currahee68, The_Samurai, Ltrain, therealdeal_37
Quads: [game]14914506[/game] D-Day: Omaha Beach! (NS, Chained, Fog Trench); daniely, trlester, wamd9060, Kantsi

Agent 86 wrote: Looks like that won't be a problem, so anyone heard from RA on their opinion?

I apologize for my late reply.

RA never has and never will support the Fog rule. I've debated a bit about it in the past, but it seems that people have different perspectives about it. And there are ladies on this site, such as myself, so why is it a "gentleman's" rule?" (I am partially joking with that last comment).

If I am playing a fog of war clan game, I would prefer if the other team DID NOT wait for 12 hours or tell us their starting locations. To me, it diminishes the competitiveness and ruins the whole spirit of fog. I don't want to know where my opponents' regions are- that's the whole fun of playing fog. I want to rely on skill, strategy and the game log to try to figure it out myself. Going second can possibly be a disadvantage on many maps/games/settings, but I accept that. But just because my team moves second, doesn't mean that we need any sort of freebie, or hint to try to "level" the playing field; we can do that ourselves. At least, that's how I look at it. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or seem "uncourteous." That is not at all my intention. I just do not like the principal/purpose behind the rule, and I could never abide to it with "good feelings."

I'm sure many of you guys will probably have no problem beating RA with or without the Fog rule, so hopefully it will not be a big deal that I vote no. I definitely think we are the underdogs here, but I am honored that we made it to the Premier League for the first time in our clan history. I very much look forward to facing all of you. Some clans- it will be our first match-up ever.


Anyway, here are RA's games:


R1: RA vs MM

Quads

[game]14915096[/game]Thyseneal- stotzi, scipio79, p*funk, tamaynet
esc, chained, fog trench
Round Limit: 20

[game]14915098[/game]WWII Ardennes- jseal, p*funk!, vioIet, mackadoo
no spoils, chained, fog

[game]14915107[/game]Iberia- stotzi, mauregard, Jimmy V, mackadoo
no spoils, chained, fog


Trips

[game]14915110[/game]Astro-Hungarian Empire- stotzi, tamaynet, mauregard
no spoils, chained, fog

[game]14915113[/game]Eygpt: Nubia: yamamoto66, jseal, fuzzy316
no spoils, chained, fog

[game]14915114[/game]Third Crusade: Scipio79, p*funk!, mackadoo
no spoils, chained, fog


Dubs

[game]14918596[/game]Benelux- Trailman, Tamaynet
no spoils, chained, sunny

[game]14915118[/game]All Your Bases- VioIet, Jimmy V
no spoils, chained, fog


[spoiler= Player Count]stotzi- 3
scipio- 2
pfunk- 3
tam- 3
jseal- 2
vio- 2
mack-3
maur- 2
jimmy -2
yama-1
fuzzy- 1
trail- 1[/spoiler]

IA vs FOED (fog)

Dubs:
[game]14913345[/game] Das Schloss : Escalating Chained Fog : PROFITS, BRADDY
[game]14913343[/game] King Of The Mountains : No Spoils Chained Fog : Agent 86, Colonel Krink

Trips:
[game]14913355[/game] Cairns Coral Coast : No Spoils Chained No : Redfelt, BRADDY, PROFITS
[game]14913349[/game] First Nations Americas : No Spoils Chained No : TheProwler, BRADDY, PROFITS
[game]14913348[/game] Cricket : No Spoils Chained Fog : Agent 86, Colonel Krink, lokisgal

Quads:
[game]14913376[/game] WWII Europe : No Spoils Chained Fog : vintender, JustCallMeStupid, 4red, Stbtgal
[game]14913370[/game] Bamboo Jack : No Spoils Chained Fog : TheProwler, JustCallMeStupid, Redfelt, cutebastard71
[game]14913366[/game] Monsters : No Spoils Chained Fog : Agent 86, Colonel Krink, TheProwler, cutebastard71 4.8

ok, so no FoW when playing RA?

I am afraid that I already marked MM home games against RA as fog, but this is duly noted.
No 12 h rule against RA.

Game numbers would help a lot though

TNC v. RET

All settings are NS, chained, foggy, except Feudal which is escalating.

Dubs

[game]14916155[/game] - England - Ragian, BlackKnight_6
[game]14916156[/game] - Fractured China - joshzam, Tobikera

Trips

[game]14916160[/game] - Stalingrad - ckyrias, dana1971, Epitaph1
[game]14916200[/game] - Flanders - BGtheBrain, jonofperu, MoB Deadly
[game]14916203[/game] - Feudal Epic - dana1971, Ragian, uyumaykimaw

Quads

[game]14916204[/game] - Schloss - BGtheBrain, cooldeals, Epitaph1, happyfeet
[game]14916209[/game] - France - Tobikera, joshzam, jonofperu, Clacie
[game]14916221[/game] - Unification Germany - BlackKnight_6, tenbar, WinstonTurqhill, tokle

VioIet wrote: RA never has and never will support the Fog rule. I've debated a bit about it in the past, but it seems that people have different perspectives about it. And there are ladies on this site, such as myself, so why is it a "gentleman's" rule?" (I am partially joking with that last comment).

If I am playing a fog of war clan game, I would prefer if the other team DID NOT wait for 12 hours or tell us their starting locations. To me, it diminishes the competitiveness and ruins the whole spirit of fog. I don't want to know where my opponents' regions are- that's the whole fun of playing fog. I want to rely on skill, strategy and the game log to try to figure it out myself. Going second can possibly be a disadvantage on many maps/games/settings, but I accept that. But just because my team moves second, doesn't mean that we need any sort of freebie, or hint to try to "level" the playing field; we can do that ourselves. At least, that's how I look at it. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or seem "uncourteous." That is not at all my intention. I just do not like the principal/purpose behind the rule, and I could never abide to it with "good feelings."

I am sure you get the difference between midturns and the initial picture of the map. Both teams deserve to know how the drop was before game begins and that has nothing to do with having fun playing fog, it's about being good sportsmanship. What you are talking about applies perfectly for every turn except for the first one.

PaRKoN wrote:

VioIet wrote: RA never has and never will support the Fog rule. I've debated a bit about it in the past, but it seems that people have different perspectives about it. And there are ladies on this site, such as myself, so why is it a "gentleman's" rule?" (I am partially joking with that last comment).

If I am playing a fog of war clan game, I would prefer if the other team DID NOT wait for 12 hours or tell us their starting locations. To me, it diminishes the competitiveness and ruins the whole spirit of fog. I don't want to know where my opponents' regions are- that's the whole fun of playing fog. I want to rely on skill, strategy and the game log to try to figure it out myself. Going second can possibly be a disadvantage on many maps/games/settings, but I accept that. But just because my team moves second, doesn't mean that we need any sort of freebie, or hint to try to "level" the playing field; we can do that ourselves. At least, that's how I look at it. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone or seem "uncourteous." That is not at all my intention. I just do not like the principal/purpose behind the rule, and I could never abide to it with "good feelings."

I am sure you get the difference between midturns and the initial picture of the map. Both teams deserve to know how the drop was before game begins and that has nothing to do with having fun playing fog, it's about being good sportsmanship. What you are talking about applies perfectly for every turn except for the first one.

Ok guys, let's not discuss this issue in this thread. In my experience people have strong feelings/opinions about the FoW 12 hour courtesy rule and you're unlikely to change those feelings/opinions with a few posts back and forth.

Let's all simply respect each others point of view and whether or not a clan decides to follow the courtesy rule or not.

Thanks,

Lx

drpall wrote:I am afraid that I already marked MM home games against RA as fog, but this is duly noted.
No 12 h rule against RA.

Game numbers would help a lot though

No worries about the fog label.


My post has been edited with the game numbers.

ACE players for TSM away games:

D: NWPassage:Game 14913787 ns, ch, foggy - - jetsetwilly, Gen. Ramsarelli
D: Arctic:Game 14913789 ns, ch, sunny - Qyu, JJ3044
T: Trafalgar:Game 14913791ns, ch, foggy - e - Crazysnakeguy nicestash jj3044
T: Age of Merchants:Game 14913793 ns, ch , foggy - , - skillfusniper33 jj3044 nicestash
T: WWII Europe:Game 14913795 ns, ch, foggy - - Steiner75, BobZimmerman, Qyu
Q: Great Lakes:Game 14913807 ns, ch, foggy - - Slaylark, Hyposquasher, Ccatman, Gen ramsarelli
Q: NYC:Game 14913811 ns, ch, foggy - pconnolly365 Hook2, mkcummins - Angola
Q: Supermax:Game 14913812 ns, ch, foggy - pconnolly365 skillfusniper33 PaRKoN mkcummins

R1 games exchanged with FALL on Sunday, October 5.

2014 [CL6] Premier Division - R1 KORT vs FALL
Dubs
[game]14922048[/game] D1: World Cup, NS, Ch, Sun - Pirlo, watsy
[game]14922049[/game] D2: Das Schloss, NS, Ch, Fog - hmsps, pascalleke

Trips
[game]14922054[/game] T1: Aor3, Nuc, Ch, Fog - watsy, TeeGee, Mageplunka69
[game]14922055[/game] T2: New Zealand, Esc, Adj, Sun - Brucewar, All Black Rugby, DaveKettering
[game]14922056[/game] T3: Eurasia, Flat, Ch, Sun - random21, John DM, Fishydance

Quads
[game]14922071[/game] Q1: USA 2.1, Adj, Trench, NS, Fog - random21, John DM, Fishydance, TeeGee
[game]14922058[/game] Q2: Fuedal Epic, Esc, Ch, Fog - hmsps, italianipastido, pascalleke, General Roy
[game]14922062[/game] Q3: FNA Esc, Unl, Sun - All Black Rugby, random21, fishydance, DaveKettering

MM away squad, round 1.

Q1. Thyseneal- esc, chained, fog trench, 20 rounds - [game]14915096[/game]
loutil/SpazzAttack/drpall/Tennisie
Q2. WWII Ardennes- no spoils, chained, fog - BigBallinStalin/Nola_Lifer/Liveoak/enjoycocacola [game]14915098[/game]
Q3. Iberia- no spoils, chained, fog - SpazzAttack/potager1/loutil/BigBallinStalin [game]14915107[/game]

T1. Astro-Hungarian Empire- no spoils, chained, fog - Blitzkrieg Frank/TheMissionary/giannikas [game]14915110[/game]
T2. Eygpt: Nubia: no spoils, chained, fog - Blitzkrieg Frank/general cod/hlbart [game]14915113[/game]
T3. Third Crusade: no spoils, chained, fog - Nola_Lifer/BigBallinStalin/giannikas [game]14915114[/game]

D1: Benelux- no spoils, chained, sunny - william tennant/general cod [game]14918596[/game]
D2: All Your Bases- no spoils, chained, fog - Liveoak/Lord Arioch [game]14915118[/game]