So the Rhonda fight was pretty good... the bar went crazy when she won. Not quite as crazy as bars used to be in GSP's era, but it was totally full and the fire marshal coulda kicked 3/4 of people out of the place.
I recorded the WSOF and watched it when I came back. I still can't get over Palhares. This is a guy who was suspended 90 days from the UFC for holding a submission too long (after the tap he kept cranking it). Then he was suspended 9 months for using roids. Then he was booted out of the UFC completely for holding a submission too long.
Last night, not only did he come in looking like his arms were inflated balloons but he also gouged his opponents eyes 8 times in plain sight of the useless referee and he held the submission way too long.
Here is some stuff being wrote on the internet:
Digging around in Shields’ eyes was a new low for Palhares. It was a dirty tactic that demonstrated just how far he’s willing to bend the rules when he feels like he’s in trouble. Even without a larger context, it would have been bad. View it through the lens of his entire career in MMA, and it seems like a character flaw manifested in the dangerous acts of a desperate man.
At the same time, let’s not pretend like we’d be anywhere near this interested in Palhares if he weren’t such a fascinating case study in callous disregard. Even on a night when the UFC offered us Ronda Rousey, who’s nothing less than a cultural phenomenon at this point, this fight still felt like must-see TV specifically because of Palhares’ track record for disastrously poor sportsmanship.
He’s done this so many times, and been criticized so thoroughly for it, it almost seems impossible that he’d keep doing it. Then he does, and suddenly it seems just as impossible that he wouldn’t.
What is wrong with this person? Is he incapable of understanding the rules, or does he just not care? These are the questions we keep coming back in search of answers to.
“We’re going to go back, and we’re going to see what happened in the fight on video – take my time, and take my emotion out (of it),” Abdelaziz told MMAjunkie. “If Palhares really held the submission long and (there were) eye-gouges for sure, there’s going to be some consequences for sure.”
Abdelaziz said one consequence – the Nevada State Athletic Commission withheld Palhares’ win bonus – has already happened. But could there be others, such as stripping him of the belt or even releasing the fighter, who already has a checkered past with holding submissions too long?
“I don’t know,” said Abdelaziz, who signed Palhares after the UFC cut ties with him in 2013. “We have a lot of options (such as) suspensions, (stripping him) of his belt. I can’t judge right now. I can’t judge right now because I’ve been one of his biggest supporters. Everybody told me not to support him, but I supported him. But I guarantee you we’ll look at this video.
I hope he isn't suspended, and that he gets stabbed in the eye with barbed fish hooks in his next match. There is an entire SAW franchise of things that should be done to him. This is far worse than killing a lion. Hundreds of lions are killed every year. There has only been one Polhares in my lifetime. Watching him, you can feel the weight of all the terrible things that humans are capable of doing to each other.
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm not sure she could defend you in a barfight. Anyone below 6 feet tall and 175 pounds would have a problem in a bar brawl.
I believe martial arts are more important than height and weight. And the fact no one would expect to get punched by a girl. And we're not talking about fighting 30 men, but only few.
The main advantage of having Rousey is that you wouldn't get into a fight situation.
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm not sure she could defend you in a barfight. Anyone below 6 feet tall and 175 pounds would have a problem in a bar brawl.
I believe martial arts are more important than height and weight. And the fact no one would expect to get punched by a girl. And we're not talking about fighting 30 men, but only few.
The main advantage of having Rousey is that you wouldn't get into a fight situation.
KoolBak wrote:She could do it too....I believe the press wanted them to fight as they are both undefeated...he lands a solid punch, she'd sure as hell know it....her martial arts training tho....lol. She's one tough chicky-poo
In a traditional Boxing match she'd probably lose. In MMA she'd kick his ass.
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm not sure she could defend you in a barfight. Anyone below 6 feet tall and 175 pounds would have a problem in a bar brawl.
I'm thinkin' you ain't been in many scuffles, DY. I knew several fellers stood well under six foot, and in the 135-160 pound class, that had no problems in a good bar fight. Of course, you and I probably have different definitions of what a "bar brawl" is. And Koolio, you know how I feel about an Estwing framer; It's one of the finest close quarters combat weapons ever made.
I agree.
I size is a factor. It's not the only factor, and probably not even in the Top 3.
"Toughness"... ability to take a punch. "Awareness"... being "ahead" of the fight... getting in the first punch. "Ferocity"... willingness to use whatever "tools" are at hand. "Skill"... any fighting skill a person may have. "Speed"... self explanatory "Strength"... related to size, but not all big guys are strong.
DoomYoshi wrote:I'm not sure she could defend you in a barfight. Anyone below 6 feet tall and 175 pounds would have a problem in a bar brawl.
I'm thinkin' you ain't been in many scuffles, DY. I knew several fellers stood well under six foot, and in the 135-160 pound class, that had no problems in a good bar fight. Of course, you and I probably have different definitions of what a "bar brawl" is. And Koolio, you know how I feel about an Estwing framer; It's one of the finest close quarters combat weapons ever made.
I agree.
I size is a factor. It's not the only factor, and probably not even in the Top 3.
"Toughness"... ability to take a punch. "Awareness"... being "ahead" of the fight... getting in the first punch. "Ferocity"... willingness to use whatever "tools" are at hand. "Skill"... any fighting skill a person may have. "Speed"... self explanatory "Strength"... related to size, but not all big guys are strong.
These are all more important than size.
You shouldn't believe every consolation your girlfriend tells you. She's really dreaming of the footlong.
But in all seriousness, this isn't a couple of guys fighting and a few are out of shape. This is a top tier athlete. Rousey wouldn't stand a chance.
jimboston wrote: Size is a factor. It's not the only factor, and probably not even in the Top 3.
"Toughness"... ability to take a punch. "Awareness"... being "ahead" of the fight... getting in the first punch. "Ferocity"... willingness to use whatever "tools" are at hand. "Skill"... any fighting skill a person may have. "Speed"... self explanatory "Strength"... related to size, but not all big guys are strong.
These are all more important than size.
You shouldn't believe every consolation your girlfriend tells you. She's really dreaming of the footlong.
But in all seriousness, this isn't a couple of guys fighting and a few are out of shape. This is a top tier athlete. Rousey wouldn't stand a chance.
-TG
Um, you're wrong.
This comment was related to how she might fair in a "bar fight". I was saying that you don't have to be over 6ft to be tough. I'm 6ft 2" and 250lbs, and I'm sure there are plenty guys who are under 5'8" who could kick my ass.
jimboston wrote: Size is a factor. It's not the only factor, and probably not even in the Top 3.
"Toughness"... ability to take a punch. "Awareness"... being "ahead" of the fight... getting in the first punch. "Ferocity"... willingness to use whatever "tools" are at hand. "Skill"... any fighting skill a person may have. "Speed"... self explanatory "Strength"... related to size, but not all big guys are strong.
These are all more important than size.
You shouldn't believe every consolation your girlfriend tells you. She's really dreaming of the footlong.
But in all seriousness, this isn't a couple of guys fighting and a few are out of shape. This is a top tier athlete. Rousey wouldn't stand a chance.
-TG
Um, you're wrong.
This comment was related to how she might fair in a "bar fight". I was saying that you don't have to be over 6ft to be tough. I'm 6ft 2" and 250lbs, and I'm sure there are plenty guys who are under 5'8" who could kick my ass.
jimboston wrote: Size is a factor. It's not the only factor, and probably not even in the Top 3.
"Toughness"... ability to take a punch. "Awareness"... being "ahead" of the fight... getting in the first punch. "Ferocity"... willingness to use whatever "tools" are at hand. "Skill"... any fighting skill a person may have. "Speed"... self explanatory "Strength"... related to size, but not all big guys are strong.
These are all more important than size.
You shouldn't believe every consolation your girlfriend tells you. She's really dreaming of the footlong.
But in all seriousness, this isn't a couple of guys fighting and a few are out of shape. This is a top tier athlete. Rousey wouldn't stand a chance.
-TG
Um, you're wrong.
This comment was related to how she might fair in a "bar fight". I was saying that you don't have to be over 6ft to be tough. I'm 6ft 2" and 250lbs, and I'm sure there are plenty guys who are under 5'8" who could kick my ass.
Size is not the key factor.
I meant to add in your post about how she would win a mma match with mayweather. She would not.
Size is not the key factor in bar brawls between untrained, regular joes. Size and strength ARE key factors in top level fighters who've been tough and athletic enough to make it to that level.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote: I meant to add in your post about how she would win a mma match with mayweather. She would not.
We will never know for sure, but...
Mayweather is 5'8" and weighs about 151lbs. (Current stats on Google) He is an elite athlete, and is trained in the art of Boxing. Boxers are trained primarily to use their hands to fight.
Rhonda Rousey is 5'7" and weighs about 135lbs. (Current stats on Google) She is an elite athlete, and is trained in Judo and MMA. She is trained to use her entire body as a weapon.
Assuming an "anything goes" MMA style fight..
If Mayweather got a clear punch or two in early, he would very likely win and possibly knock Rousey out.
If Rousey could get him off his feet an grapple, she has the technique and speed to possible beat him.
He is NOT TRAINED to fight a grappling style match from the ground. He's trained to box.
You have your opinion. I have mine. I think there is logic in my opinion.