Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:28 am
by subtleknifewield
subtleknifewield wrote:So which Chinese customs would YOU discard?
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:35 am
by mrswdk
subtleknifewield wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:So which Chinese customs would YOU discard?
Most of them have been discarded already. The Imperial system of examinations, Confucian education, god worship and ancestor worship (for the most part) are all gone.
Even in the last few decades, 20th century Maoism has been rooted out of society and completely abandoned.
#progress #newdawn #landofthefree
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:44 am
by subtleknifewield
Lol, free. Sure.
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While I grant that there is no lawless frontier nor threat of another power swooping in to overcome us Americans in this day and age, to abolish guns entirely is to also invite in a police state, hence my proposed solution to restrict it to those who are most likely to responsibly use them--a system which as I recall is already being used in other first-world nations.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:53 am
by mrswdk
subtleknifewield wrote:restrict it to those who are most likely to responsibly use them--a system which as I recall is already being used in other first-world nations.
Other than Switzerland, almost no one in any other developed nation is capable of legally owning a gun. In the UK, for example, they can only be owned by farmers (for reasons such as pest control) or for sport. I believe it's the same pretty much everywhere.
I mean, what other 'responsible uses' for guns can you think of?
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:58 am
by Phatscotty
khazalid wrote: the school may have had a no gun policy, but i'm willing to bet the local wal-mart sure as f*ck didn't. lrn2read dy
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:08 am
by subtleknifewield
Lol Scotty XD
mrswdk wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:restrict it to those who are most likely to responsibly use them--a system which as I recall is already being used in other first-world nations.
Other than Switzerland, almost no one in any other developed nation is capable of legally owning a gun. In the UK, for example, they can only be owned by farmers (for reasons such as pest control) or for sport. I believe it's the same pretty much everywhere.
I mean, what other 'responsible uses' for guns can you think of?
I point to Germany, actually, for this. https://books.google.com/books?id=oD46J ... &q&f=false If you want to read the background, read from there (page 314), or if you want to skip to the current law, scroll down to nearly the bottom of page 315. This is essentially the sort of restriction I am suggesting.
As for responsible use, guns can still be used for self-defense. Just because it isn't a lawless wild west doesn't mean it erases criminals from existence. Crime will always exist in some form or another.
We also remember the history of how we came to be. Without the use of guns our own independence could not have been won. Without any citizens owning guns, well, who does that leave in possession of them? Criminals, the police, and the military...and in some places not even the police.
Should everyone own one? No, you are right in that much, and I will never advocate for this. But if they can be put in the hands of those who can be reasonably expected to not abuse the privilege, I think it would go a long way to reducing incidents such as this.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:26 am
by khazalid
Phatscotty wrote:
khazalid wrote: the school may have had a no gun policy, but i'm willing to bet the local wal-mart sure as f*ck didn't. lrn2read dy
read the OP again.
you're right btw. meth is simple enough to make with the right ingredients. might as well start selling it in wal-mart because logic.
bravo.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:25 am
by warmonger1981
The ultimate questions. Is it better to have a weapon and not need it OR need one and not have it?
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:34 am
by mrswdk
subtleknifewield wrote:Lol Scotty XD
mrswdk wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:restrict it to those who are most likely to responsibly use them--a system which as I recall is already being used in other first-world nations.
Other than Switzerland, almost no one in any other developed nation is capable of legally owning a gun. In the UK, for example, they can only be owned by farmers (for reasons such as pest control) or for sport. I believe it's the same pretty much everywhere.
I mean, what other 'responsible uses' for guns can you think of?
I point to Germany, actually, for this. https://books.google.com/books?id=oD46J ... &q&f=false If you want to read the background, read from there (page 314), or if you want to skip to the current law, scroll down to nearly the bottom of page 315. This is essentially the sort of restriction I am suggesting.
As for responsible use, guns can still be used for self-defense.
According to Wikipedia, self-defense is not accepted as a reason for buying a gun in Germany. In Germany you can basically only buy a guy for sporting use, or if you are an especially exposed person (e.g. money courier, politician) who is in more danger than the average citizen.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:42 am
by KoolBak
IMHO, all you gun haters are absolutely full of shit. It's the fucked up PEOPLE, not the delivery vehicle. His was a religious gripe apparently...we should forbid all religion.
Our worst mass murder was caused with fucking airplanes...didnt hear you whining nonamerican bastards bitching about airtravel. There was a dude that bombed a store with a propane cylinder he modified (he also had homemade flamethrowers at home from same)....shall we outlaw barbeques?
I could kill a hell of a lot of you with my dually pickup....best take that away too. Right after you TRY to take my guns away.
Dont give a shit about parents that have lost their babies, but slaver over the opportunity to cry about guns. You disgust me.
Oh...and the result of actions like these? MORE people want to buy guns, that probably shouldnt, to defend themselves. So, yeah....so sad.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:09 am
by mrswdk
KoolBak wrote:Our worst mass murder was caused with fucking airplanes...didnt hear you whining nonamerican bastards bitching about airtravel.
lawl
Not that I care about whether or not Americans want to kill each other, but the American reaction to 9/11 was to increase airport security to the point where crippled old ladies get their ass cracks fondled by security guards at bag inspection points. Clearly a need was felt to more tightly control the thing which could be used to cause mass death.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:16 am
by KoolBak
Oh...and Bttiko....they arent "Automatic"....they're "Semi-Automatic"...we can legally GET automatic weapons and I have shot them before....very cool....but I've never heard of anyone using their $5000 licensed, bonded, redtaped weapon for a crime.....well except for druglords and gangbangers that acquire them illegally.....anyway....yeah.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:20 am
by degaston
Phatscotty wrote:
khazalid wrote: the school may have had a no gun policy, but i'm willing to bet the local wal-mart sure as f*ck didn't. lrn2read dy
Batman resorts to violence because he knows his argument is weak. Selling meth in stores is not the answer.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:06 pm
by Fudd
Don't kid yourself, we love it. We love to hear of Mass murders, Calamities, Killings etc. We have 24hr news broadcasting all around the world. Stop broadcasting such things and people will stop becoming immortalized. Maybe they will make a Movie about it. The 'free' press is restricted in Military zones, why not restrict the Media from broadcasting such things. It is an easy fix. I suppose it makes for a better story when somebody walks into a school with a homemade Bomb or Machete (oppose to a gun) and Extinguishes mass Human life. Go ahead and get rid of Guns, allow the Media to do there job.
24hr news, so you can hear/see all the Good that is happening around the globe. Note: American News broadcast are not world orientated.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:25 pm
by DaGip
Interview with the murderer's father this afternoon. His Pop speaks with a Scottish accent and thinks we should give up our guns. After this interview, CNN goes straight to interviewing Allison Parker's father (who is not only a political activist but an actor) and he agrees with the murderer's father. "Gun registration isn't enough..." he states.
Get ready for gun confiscation in this country. It's going to happen.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:29 pm
by mrswdk
First they take away the AK-47s, next they burn down the Reichstag and start gassing the hipsters!!!!!
THE END IS NIGH
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:21 pm
by ConfederateSS
subtleknifewield wrote:Lol Scotty XD
As for responsible use, guns can still be used for self-defense. Just because it isn't a lawless wild west
-------YOU'RE RIGHT ,THIS ISN'T THE OLD WEST...THERE WAS A CODE OF HONOR BACK THEN. EVEN AMONG THIEVES...BACK THEN, IT WAS ONE ON ONE IN THE STREET...EACH WITH A GUN. NOT WALKING INTO PLACES,WITH THE OBJECT TO KILL,KILL,KILL TO GET YOUR NAME MENTIONED WORLDWIDE. AGAINST THOSE THAT CAN'T FIGHT BACK...I KNOW BLAME FLAGS,GUNS,ETC...NOT THE ONES SEEKING FAME...IN AN UNDIGNIFIED ACT... ...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:06 pm
by degaston
ConfederateSS wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:Lol Scotty XD
As for responsible use, guns can still be used for self-defense. Just because it isn't a lawless wild west
-------YOU'RE RIGHT ,THIS ISN'T THE OLD WEST...THERE WAS A CODE OF HONOR BACK THEN. EVEN AMONG THIEVES...BACK THEN, IT WAS ONE ON ONE IN THE STREET...EACH WITH A GUN. NOT WALKING INTO PLACES,WITH THE OBJECT TO KILL,KILL,KILL TO GET YOUR NAME MENTIONED WORLDWIDE. AGAINST THOSE THAT CAN'T FIGHT BACK...I KNOW BLAME FLAGS,GUNS,ETC...NOT THE ONES SEEKING FAME...IN AN UNDIGNIFIED ACT... ...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
Is your entire world view based on some warped combination of Fox News and Hollywood movies? Try getting your information from other sources for a change. Take your pick.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:48 pm
by subtleknifewield
ConfederateSS wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:Lol Scotty XD
As for responsible use, guns can still be used for self-defense. Just because it isn't a lawless wild west
-------YOU'RE RIGHT ,THIS ISN'T THE OLD WEST...THERE WAS A CODE OF HONOR BACK THEN. EVEN AMONG THIEVES...BACK THEN, IT WAS ONE ON ONE IN THE STREET...EACH WITH A GUN. NOT WALKING INTO PLACES,WITH THE OBJECT TO KILL,KILL,KILL TO GET YOUR NAME MENTIONED WORLDWIDE. AGAINST THOSE THAT CAN'T FIGHT BACK...I KNOW BLAME FLAGS,GUNS,ETC...NOT THE ONES SEEKING FAME...IN AN UNDIGNIFIED ACT... ...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
OK, I can't even make sense of half of what you're saying here :V
Now see, this i an example of someone doing something constructive about it...
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:26 pm
by Phatscotty
khazalid wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
khazalid wrote: the school may have had a no gun policy, but i'm willing to bet the local wal-mart sure as f*ck didn't. lrn2read dy
read the OP again.
you're right btw. meth is simple enough to make with the right ingredients. might as well start selling it in wal-mart because logic.
bravo.
the logic, or lack of logic here, isn't about the ingredients of meth. It's about the farce implicating the access of guns in stores, specifically wal-mart and how their policy 'sure the f#%k didn't'. Trying to backpedal to an absolutely sarcastic OP written by someone else isn't going to help you deal with what was written by you
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:36 pm
by Phatscotty
Many cited the Confederate flag flying as one reason why the South Carolina shooter did what he did, and demanded the flag be taken down and banned.
To those people (who I will look up and ask specifically as many times as is need to get an answer) What are some of the reasons why this black Muslim targeted Christians to be shot in the face? What symbols need to be removed this time?
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:08 am
by ConfederateSS
subtleknifewield wrote:
ConfederateSS wrote:
subtleknifewield wrote:Lol Scotty XD
As for responsible use, guns can still be used for self-defense. Just because it isn't a lawless wild west
-------YOU'RE RIGHT ,THIS ISN'T THE OLD WEST...THERE WAS A CODE OF HONOR BACK THEN. EVEN AMONG THIEVES...BACK THEN, IT WAS ONE ON ONE IN THE STREET...EACH WITH A GUN. NOT WALKING INTO PLACES,WITH THE OBJECT TO KILL,KILL,KILL TO GET YOUR NAME MENTIONED WORLDWIDE. AGAINST THOSE THAT CAN'T FIGHT BACK...I KNOW BLAME FLAGS,GUNS,ETC...NOT THE ONES SEEKING FAME...IN AN UNDIGNIFIED ACT... ...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
OK, I can't even make sense of half of what you're saying here :V
Now see, this i an example of someone doing something constructive about it...
-------You are the one,who tried to say America is not as worse in the 21st cen. ,as compared to the 19th cen. You must be as blind as you are stupid,to live in today's USA. Make a remark like that. When people of the 19th cen. had morals,ethics,and honor. TODAY THE USA HAS NONE OF THESE. Are you going to get rid of freedom of religion as well? Because that seems to be the cause of more and more of these shootings. Michigan has the worst school killing of all time. BATH,Mi. A person lost his grip on power over a community. Took it out on the people(children) of BATH. Blew up the school. I guess your background checks would have stopped such a tragedy. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).-------THE BOTTOM LINE IS...WITH FACEBOOK/TWITTER ETC. PEOPLE CAN BECOME FAMOUS IN A FLASH. NO GUN CONTROL...OR BANNING THINGS ...WILL STOP THE KILLING, IN THE NAME OF FAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:53 pm
by khazalid
Phatscotty wrote:
khazalid wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
khazalid wrote: the school may have had a no gun policy, but i'm willing to bet the local wal-mart sure as f*ck didn't. lrn2read dy
read the OP again.
you're right btw. meth is simple enough to make with the right ingredients. might as well start selling it in wal-mart because logic.
bravo.
the logic, or lack of logic here, isn't about the ingredients of meth. It's about the farce implicating the access of guns in stores, specifically wal-mart and how their policy 'sure the f#%k didn't'. Trying to backpedal to an absolutely sarcastic OP written by someone else isn't going to help you deal with what was written by you
interesting conception of farce you got there, donald.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:02 pm
by mrswdk
To be fair, all drugs out to be decriminalized.
Re: Another Mass American Shooting(Oregon)...#994,in 3 years