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kwanton wrote:

purpledown wrote:Well, at least it wasn't gay porn... it wasn't gay porn, was it?

It sounds like she would rather have her kid look at gay porn.....

This is perhaps the most reasonable thing said so far in this thread.

Anyway,

Dear Teenage Boys (and jay):

Calling a woman (any woman) a "feminazi" is liable to lose you a lot of credit, respect, and sympathy with self-respecting females ("feminazi" or otherwise).

The woman quoted (ridiculed) in the original post certainly does seem to be misguided about how her son's porn-use might affect the world. Lots of people with apparently crazy ideologies (read: jay) ARE grievously offended by porn, and react to it in irrational ways. Her (probably exaggerated) rue over not having had an abortion is no more cruelly intentioned and pathologically minded than someone who thinks that their child will be DAMNED TO ETERNAL FLAMES for looking at porn (or any other transgression). She DOES NOT, anywhere in the post, espouse the murderous, fascist ideology of NAZISM. While subtly eugenicist (though significantly less so than the likes of cawck or Norse), she DOES NOT promote the extermination of any group of people anywhere in her thread.

I bet through collective brainstorming you could come up with a more fitting term for this woman's particular brand of craziness.

With sincerest affections for all myn and womyn,
BtownMeggy

To be perfectly honest, I feel bad for the mother. Yeah, she posted on a nutty forum, where "men" are referred to as "male persons", but pornography is generally an issue associated with the feminist crusade- it makes sense for a distressed mother to post about it on a feminist website.

And quite frankly it's the only issue I can really agree with the feminist crusade on, because it's the only issue which I think requires the radical measures which most vocal feminists advocate.

In any case, I don't think it's worthy of us to be making fun of her. She's in quite a bind.

Feminazi = Bad choice. Ooh! Ooh! I got it! * * trumpet fanfare * * FEMIN00B!

OnlyAmbrose wrote:To be perfectly honest, I feel bad for the mother. Yeah, she posted on a nutty forum, where "men" are referred to as "male persons", but pornography is generally an issue associated with the feminist crusade- it makes sense for a distressed mother to post about it on a feminist website.

And quite frankly it's the only issue I can really agree with the feminist crusade on, because it's the only issue which I think requires the radical measures which most vocal feminists advocate.

In any case, I don't think it's worthy of us to be making fun of her. She's in quite a bind.

she is in the bind because of what she thinks porn does to people. maybe some, who take it WAY too seriously as the bible radicals do, but i don't think porn does such a thing to a person. i know lots of friends who look at porn, and they're sweet to their girlfriends, and they don't disrespect women the way the mother imagines they would (as a result from looking at porn). porn is evil, i admit. it dirties up your mind, which is why i understand every sexual joke or reference there is to man, and i am 13.

b.k. barunt wrote:Feminazi = Bad choice. Ooh! Ooh! I got it! * * trumpet fanfare * * FEMIN00B!

I like it!

Hitman079 wrote:i know lots of friends who look at porn, and they're sweet to their girlfriends

Do their girlfriends know they look at porn?

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

Hitman079 wrote:i know lots of friends who look at porn, and they're sweet to their girlfriends

Do their girlfriends know they look at porn?

Seriously doubt it.

She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

btownmeggy wrote:

kwanton wrote:

purpledown wrote:Well, at least it wasn't gay porn... it wasn't gay porn, was it?

It sounds like she would rather have her kid look at gay porn.....

This is perhaps the most reasonable thing said so far in this thread.

Anyway,

Dear Teenage Boys (and jay):

Calling a woman (any woman) a "feminazi" is liable to lose you a lot of credit, respect, and sympathy with self-respecting females ("feminazi" or otherwise).

The woman quoted (ridiculed) in the original post certainly does seem to be misguided about how her son's porn-use might affect the world. Lots of people with apparently crazy ideologies (read: jay) ARE grievously offended by porn, and react to it in irrational ways. Her (probably exaggerated) rue over not having had an abortion is no more cruelly intentioned and pathologically minded than someone who thinks that their child will be DAMNED TO ETERNAL FLAMES for looking at porn (or any other transgression). She DOES NOT, anywhere in the post, espouse the murderous, fascist ideology of NAZISM. While subtly eugenicist (though significantly less so than the likes of cawck or Norse), she DOES NOT promote the extermination of any group of people anywhere in her thread.

I bet through collective brainstorming you could come up with a more fitting term for this woman's particular brand of craziness.

With sincerest affections for all myn and womyn,
BtownMeggy

Look, normaly I don't have a problem with feminism, however when women take it to such extremes like this woman did, that is called being a feminazi. Besides which, that is a great term to fit such a person.

b.k. barunt wrote:She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

Interesting point, though corporal punishment generally doesn't work on teenagers.

I don't doubt that the parents are to blame somewhere along the line. I wasn't trying to give that impression. Doesn't make the mother's situation (and the boy's for that matter) any less sad. Not something to make fun of, anyhow.

Though I'd like to add that it's sickening that she's more concerned about what her boy is going to do to women than her boy himself. And the wishing she got an abortion thing is downright nutty.

I like to think comments like that are a product of a stressful situation.

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

Interesting point, though corporal punishment generally doesn't work on teenagers.

I beg to differ on that one. It works on adults actually. If you disagree, go into a bar with a big bouncer and start some trouble - then, after picking your bruised body off of the pavement outside, see how much you feel like going back inside for more.

b.k. barunt wrote:

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

Interesting point, though corporal punishment generally doesn't work on teenagers.

I beg to differ on that one. It works on adults actually. If you disagree, go into a bar with a big bouncer and start some trouble - then, after picking your bruised body off of the pavement outside, see how much you feel like going back inside for more.

See, but a woman treating a kid like a bouncer treats a troublemaker generally leads to social services getting involved. If it leaves a mark, it can be prosecuted as child abuse (at least in Cali).

And a light smack on the behind that doesn't leave a mark isn't going to stop a teenager from looking at porn.

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

Interesting point, though corporal punishment generally doesn't work on teenagers.

I beg to differ on that one. It works on adults actually. If you disagree, go into a bar with a big bouncer and start some trouble - then, after picking your bruised body off of the pavement outside, see how much you feel like going back inside for more.

See, but a woman treating a kid like a bouncer treats a troublemaker generally leads to social services getting involved. If it leaves a mark, it can be prosecuted as child abuse (at least in Cali).

And a light smack on the behind that doesn't leave a mark isn't going to stop a teenager from looking at porn.

No, but a child must learn boundaries, which is best done by discipline.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

Interesting point, though corporal punishment generally doesn't work on teenagers.

I beg to differ on that one. It works on adults actually. If you disagree, go into a bar with a big bouncer and start some trouble - then, after picking your bruised body off of the pavement outside, see how much you feel like going back inside for more.

See, but a woman treating a kid like a bouncer treats a troublemaker generally leads to social services getting involved. If it leaves a mark, it can be prosecuted as child abuse (at least in Cali).

And a light smack on the behind that doesn't leave a mark isn't going to stop a teenager from looking at porn.

No, but a child must learn boundaries, which is best done by discipline.

You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who disagrees with you there. But I was never arguing that.

My point is, you can't corporally punish a teenager without running severe risk of getting social services on your butt. Like I said, she's in a bind. She failed somewhere along the line, and she's a bit helpless now.

Though on the other hand, she seems to hate her kid enough to want social services to come take him. I feel pretty bad for the kid too.

btownmeggy wrote:

kwanton wrote:

purpledown wrote:Well, at least it wasn't gay porn... it wasn't gay porn, was it?

It sounds like she would rather have her kid look at gay porn.....

This is perhaps the most reasonable thing said so far in this thread.

Anyway,

Dear Teenage Boys (and jay):

Calling a woman (any woman) a "feminazi" is liable to lose you a lot of credit, respect, and sympathy with self-respecting females ("feminazi" or otherwise).

The woman quoted (ridiculed) in the original post certainly does seem to be misguided about how her son's porn-use might affect the world. Lots of people with apparently crazy ideologies (read: jay) ARE grievously offended by porn, and react to it in irrational ways. Her (probably exaggerated) rue over not having had an abortion is no more cruelly intentioned and pathologically minded than someone who thinks that their child will be DAMNED TO ETERNAL FLAMES for looking at porn (or any other transgression). She DOES NOT, anywhere in the post, espouse the murderous, fascist ideology of NAZISM. While subtly eugenicist (though significantly less so than the likes of cawck or Norse), she DOES NOT promote the extermination of any group of people anywhere in her thread.

I bet through collective brainstorming you could come up with a more fitting term for this woman's particular brand of craziness.

With sincerest affections for all myn and womyn,
BtownMeggy

Nazism promoted one race as inferior to another, however the problem with that is all humans are part of the same race, you'd find more of a difference between two breeds of dogs then a black man and a chinese man. That said, there's also a bigger difference between a man and a woman then a black man and a chinese man, she sees all men as perverted dogs and shit, meaning she's a super nazi. Nazi has also become a term synonymous with someone with radical, fanatical devotion to a cause. So yes, she is in fact a feminazi.

Btw, this doesn't contradict what I said in my other thread. The white man has a better culture then all others and thats why he's superior and should not be mocked, degraded etc., but all the ungrateful foreigners complain about equal rights blah blah blah, when if they should just be glad their not living in whatever shithole country they crawled out of.

cawck mongler wrote:The white man has a better culture then all others and thats why he's superior and should not be mocked, degraded etc., but all the ungrateful foreigners complain about equal rights blah blah blah, when if they should just be glad their not living in whatever shithole country they crawled out of.

Somehow a Nazi complaining about a Feminazi isn't very convincing.

cawck mongler wrote:Btw, this doesn't contradict what I said in my other thread. The white man has a better culture then all others and thats why he's superior and should not be mocked, degraded etc., but all the ungrateful foreigners complain about equal rights blah blah blah, when if they should just be glad their not living in whatever shithole country they crawled out of.

Wow, so what your saying is that white people have better cultures than everyone else. By what standards. What gives you the right to make standards and be the judge of what makes cultures better than each other? True, white culture (Europeans, Americans) have more advanced technology, less poverty rate, etc. than say Africa. But that in no way makes it a better culture. You are a disgrace to everyone in the US. Period. That is it.

misterman10 wrote:

cawck mongler wrote:Btw, this doesn't contradict what I said in my other thread. The white man has a better culture then all others and thats why he's superior and should not be mocked, degraded etc., but all the ungrateful foreigners complain about equal rights blah blah blah, when if they should just be glad their not living in whatever shithole country they crawled out of.

Wow, so what your saying is that white people have better cultures than everyone else. By what standards. What gives you the right to make standards and be the judge of what makes cultures better than each other? True, white culture (Europeans, Americans) have more advanced technology, less poverty rate, etc. than say Africa. But that in no way makes it a better culture. You are a disgrace to everyone in the US. Period. That is it.

Because in western nations its easier to survive and reproduce then anywhere else, and thats arguably our only function in life. Being able to nuke the shit out of all you other faggots works nicely to.

Don't try using my own argument against me dumbass.

I ay shoot the bitch...Thats what they do to insane dogs!!! A mother should love her children no matter what.

cawck mongler wrote:

misterman10 wrote:

cawck mongler wrote:Btw, this doesn't contradict what I said in my other thread. The white man has a better culture then all others and thats why he's superior and should not be mocked, degraded etc., but all the ungrateful foreigners complain about equal rights blah blah blah, when if they should just be glad their not living in whatever shithole country they crawled out of.

Wow, so what your saying is that white people have better cultures than everyone else. By what standards. What gives you the right to make standards and be the judge of what makes cultures better than each other? True, white culture (Europeans, Americans) have more advanced technology, less poverty rate, etc. than say Africa. But that in no way makes it a better culture. You are a disgrace to everyone in the US. Period. That is it.

Because in western nations its easier to survive and reproduce then anywhere else, and thats arguably our only function in life. Being able to nuke the shit out of all you other faggots works nicely to.

Don't try using my own argument against me dumbass.

You've got a lot to learn, a lot to learn

cawck mongler wrote:in western nations its easier to survive and reproduce then anywhere else, and thats arguably our only function in life.

You'd find that historically and presently, the very western culture you're referring to has disagreed with that statement.

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

muy_thaiguy wrote:

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:

OnlyAmbrose wrote:

b.k. barunt wrote:She is in a bind because she is unable to discipline her child. I have known a few radical feminists, and had one as a boss when i worked as a counselor in an "alternative school" (an alternative to jail). They are pretty much consumed with a hatred for men, and thus will frequently throw out the baby with the bathwater. They are absolutely opposed to any form of corporal punishment, which explains the fact that her son would access the porn even when he knew he would get caught.

Interesting point, though corporal punishment generally doesn't work on teenagers.

I beg to differ on that one. It works on adults actually. If you disagree, go into a bar with a big bouncer and start some trouble - then, after picking your bruised body off of the pavement outside, see how much you feel like going back inside for more.

See, but a woman treating a kid like a bouncer treats a troublemaker generally leads to social services getting involved. If it leaves a mark, it can be prosecuted as child abuse (at least in Cali).

And a light smack on the behind that doesn't leave a mark isn't going to stop a teenager from looking at porn.

No, but a child must learn boundaries, which is best done by discipline.

You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who disagrees with you there. But I was never arguing that.

My point is, you can't corporally punish a teenager without running severe risk of getting social services on your butt. Like I said, she's in a bind. She failed somewhere along the line, and she's a bit helpless now.

If she'd brought him up properly, she wouldn't have to hit him as a teenager. The last time i had to "spank" my son, he was 13, and i stopped short, so he got the swoosh sound of it coming at him, but i didn't connect. He thought he was "too old" for it, and i convinced him that he wasn't, but without hitting him. You're right about social services - i have a degree in social work, and i butted heads with more than one teacher on the subject of corporal punishment. Like i said, if she'd raised him properly, she wouldn't have to be spanking him as a teenager. Neighbors who heard my son scream when i faked him out called ss (hmm, where have i seen that symbol?), and they sent someone out the next day. My son was home alone when the social worker came out, and he laughed when she asked him if i "beat" him.

have they??? who??? were and when???

I think we're in agreement b.k.

hulmey wrote:have they??? who??? were and when???

Well we could talk about various people, but if we want to get fairly recent, we could talk about belief in the pursuit of happiness. Going a bit further back, we could talk about a Renaissance in art. Various people in various eras of western culture stress ideals far greater than "survival of the fittest". Social Darwinism never caught on, unless you count the brief stint of facism in the post-world war I era.