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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:07 pm
by salvadevinemasse
mandalorian2298 wrote:salvadevinemasse wrote:BelJoDoe wrote:As part of what I 'do', I am often required to analyse language use, in particular the way people use it and the pragmatics behind the 'why'.
Honestly Salva, in the text that you have pasted, you come across as the least rational and the most aggressively confrontational.
Without counting, it seems to me that the majority of the accusatory declaratives originate with you as well as all the imperatives, which you use particularly aggressively, even beginning the conversation with one. By comparison, "Kat" seems rather conciliatory and hurt by the accusations. Kat attempts to answer all your questions and explain herself while you seem to take affront at her attempts to placate you with these explanations.
Certainly, when you use large monologues in the text, it seems more as if you've come to the conversation with little desire to engage in a discussion, simply wishing to hurt Kat with your words, instead.
In short, after reading all of the pasted IM, I'm more inclined to consider Kat as the injured party. If you truly feel otherwise then it seems obvious to me that misunderstanding on your part has occurred rather than anything about which Kat should feel guilty. Sorry.
To be honest. I was just trying to see where I stood with her. I didnt want to be in a friendship where I wasn't being respected I was hurt which yes your right I was having a fire lit under me because she was taking advantage of my b/f in my POV for her self pity which yes was brought about by mr abs.. (KRamsey) She was being mean and rude by not even saying hello when she claimed to be a friend..she refused to call me and yeah she seemed to claim it was a minutes issue but if it was such an issue then why was she calling my b/f still? Most girls would have felt threatened..Sorry but ask any girl whos had a back stabbing friend steal an at the moment b/f they'll all tell you I was right to feel what i did
So, Kitten was so self centered that she didn't start her conversations with VT about the guy tried to kill her with saying 'Hi' to you? How dared she?!

Some people really think that they are all alone in the world.

*Yawns as you dont seem to get it*
As I said..Its not so much that.. its more that I was tired of all the on/off sorrys and no action to change a bit to show that she wanted our friendship to stay intact.. and no I didnt expect a hello nstantly could have been before they hung up.. Whats so wrong with expecting a friend to say hi sometimes? Not like I expected it every single time..but once in a while would have been nice
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:14 pm
by mandalorian2298
DAZMCFC wrote:Bollocks i will standby salva all the way. she is a lovely woman and with her boyfriend VTM i am glad she is back on the forums i missed her alot. i hope she stays on here now and forget about s_x kitten she has not been seen for a while..

*No sooner have this words left DAZMCFC's keyboard, then the powerfull mewl sounded over the peacefull CCers, who quickly shooed their children into their houses. A gush of wind lifted trees in the air, the ground shook and the sky was suddenly shrouded with dark clouds. It was as if the Nature itself shudered before the
RETURN OF THE KITTEN * - from "The Book of Conquer Club"
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:19 pm
by salvadevinemasse
mandalorian2298 wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:Bollocks i will standby salva all the way. she is a lovely woman and with her boyfriend VTM i am glad she is back on the forums i missed her alot. i hope she stays on here now and forget about s_x kitten she has not been seen for a while..

*No sooner have this words left DAZMCFC's keyboard, then the powerfull mewl sounded over the peacefull CCers, who quickly shooed their children into their houses. A gush of wind lifted trees in the air, the ground shook and the sky was suddenly shrouded with dark clouds. It was as if the Nature itself shudered before the
RETURN OF THE KITTEN * - from "The Book of Conquer Club"
ummm...what? Are you saying shes gonna reply..I'd love to see what shes got to say. She can explain herself if she wishes..and you can say that to her if you wish. You act like i'm scared of her..its not that i'm scared I just dont feel good about how I was treated by her is all.
Salva~
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:22 pm
by mandalorian2298
salvadevinemasse wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:salvadevinemasse wrote:BelJoDoe wrote:As part of what I 'do', I am often required to analyse language use, in particular the way people use it and the pragmatics behind the 'why'.
Honestly Salva, in the text that you have pasted, you come across as the least rational and the most aggressively confrontational.
Without counting, it seems to me that the majority of the accusatory declaratives originate with you as well as all the imperatives, which you use particularly aggressively, even beginning the conversation with one. By comparison, "Kat" seems rather conciliatory and hurt by the accusations. Kat attempts to answer all your questions and explain herself while you seem to take affront at her attempts to placate you with these explanations.
Certainly, when you use large monologues in the text, it seems more as if you've come to the conversation with little desire to engage in a discussion, simply wishing to hurt Kat with your words, instead.
In short, after reading all of the pasted IM, I'm more inclined to consider Kat as the injured party. If you truly feel otherwise then it seems obvious to me that misunderstanding on your part has occurred rather than anything about which Kat should feel guilty. Sorry.
To be honest. I was just trying to see where I stood with her. I didnt want to be in a friendship where I wasn't being respected I was hurt which yes your right I was having a fire lit under me because she was taking advantage of my b/f in my POV for her self pity which yes was brought about by mr abs.. (KRamsey) She was being mean and rude by not even saying hello when she claimed to be a friend..she refused to call me and yeah she seemed to claim it was a minutes issue but if it was such an issue then why was she calling my b/f still? Most girls would have felt threatened..Sorry but ask any girl whos had a back stabbing friend steal an at the moment b/f they'll all tell you I was right to feel what i did
So, Kitten was so self centered that she didn't start her conversations with VT about the guy tried to kill her with saying 'Hi' to you? How dared she?!

Some people really think that they are all alone in the world.

*Yawns as you dont seem to get it*
As I said..Its not so much that.. its more that I was tired of all the on/off sorrys and no action to change a bit to show that she wanted our friendship to stay intact.. and no I didnt expect a hello nstantly could have been before they hung up.. Whats so wrong with expecting a friend to say hi sometimes? Not like I expected it every single time..but once in a while would have been nice
Nothing was wrong with it. Looked, I am just looking it from the other perspective. Personaly, I don't care much to listen my friends whinings. But, I also don't expect them to stop mid-whining and pay attention to my stuff. People get self centered during a time of crisis. Or rather (since being self centered is a natural state of any being and with good reason) during crisis people are less preocupied by making apologees and acting as if they care about the things that they don't care about. Since most of the stuff people talk about is uninportant (weather, sports 99% of politics etc.) their friends interpret this as hostility. But, it's actualy honesty.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:22 pm
by Iliad
I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:23 pm
by DAZMCFC
mandalorian2298 wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:Bollocks i will standby salva all the way. she is a lovely woman and with her boyfriend VTM i am glad she is back on the forums i missed her alot. i hope she stays on here now and forget about s_x kitten she has not been seen for a while..

*No sooner have this words left DAZMCFC's keyboard, then the powerfull mewl sounded over the peacefull CCers, who quickly shooed their children into their houses. A gush of wind lifted trees in the air, the ground shook and the sky was suddenly shrouded with dark clouds. It was as if the Nature itself shudered before the
RETURN OF THE KITTEN * - from "The Book of Conquer Club"
mandy now stop that or i`ll have to beat your arse again in another game.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:24 pm
by mandalorian2298
salvadevinemasse wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:Bollocks i will standby salva all the way. she is a lovely woman and with her boyfriend VTM i am glad she is back on the forums i missed her alot. i hope she stays on here now and forget about s_x kitten she has not been seen for a while..

*No sooner have this words left DAZMCFC's keyboard, then the powerfull mewl sounded over the peacefull CCers, who quickly shooed their children into their houses. A gush of wind lifted trees in the air, the ground shook and the sky was suddenly shrouded with dark clouds. It was as if the Nature itself shudered before the
RETURN OF THE KITTEN * - from "The Book of Conquer Club"
ummm...what? Are you saying shes gonna reply..I'd love to see what shes got to say. She can explain herself if she wishes..and you can say that to her if you wish. You act like i'm scared of her..its not that i'm scared I just dont feel good about how I was treated by her is all.
Salva~
I am just being Prophetic because it pleases my childish nature

(and it's 4.23 AM so my brain acting funnily then usual

.)
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:26 pm
by mandalorian2298
DAZMCFC wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:Bollocks i will standby salva all the way. she is a lovely woman and with her boyfriend VTM i am glad she is back on the forums i missed her alot. i hope she stays on here now and forget about s_x kitten she has not been seen for a while..

*No sooner have this words left DAZMCFC's keyboard, then the powerfull mewl sounded over the peacefull CCers, who quickly shooed their children into their houses. A gush of wind lifted trees in the air, the ground shook and the sky was suddenly shrouded with dark clouds. It was as if the Nature itself shudered before the
RETURN OF THE KITTEN * - from "The Book of Conquer Club"
mandy now stop that or i`ll have to beat your arse again in another game.

Remind me on which map it was, so that I can see if you have left a scar in my soul.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:28 pm
by Iliad
Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:31 pm
by mandalorian2298
Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:32 pm
by Iliad
mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

No I said that quote at the end of page 2 and no-one replied so I repeated it.
And then I posted my hypothesis. I am still confused as to what is happening.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:33 pm
by Serbia
Iliad wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

No I said that quote at the end of page 2 and no-one replied so I repeated it.
And then I posted my hypothesis. I am still confused as to what is happening.
Her b/f is VTMarik. I thought everyone knew that.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:34 pm
by Iliad
Serbia wrote:Iliad wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

No I said that quote at the end of page 2 and no-one replied so I repeated it.
And then I posted my hypothesis. I am still confused as to what is happening.
Her b/f is VTMarik. I thought everyone knew that.
I might've missed that. So kitten called VTmarik but she didn't call salva? And that's everything? The entire cause of this fight/whaterver it is.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:35 pm
by salvadevinemasse
Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
I'm VTMariks G/F... Welcome to the chat. I was only explaining why I was gone mainly.. Its sorta complicated I did a whole thing on it ...It should be readable.
Summery basically though was this:
Kat (S.XKitten) was calling herself a friend and yet wasn't treating me like one.
Instead she was acting like she wanted my b/f
Telling me and him different things Like she told me she was 17 going to turn 18 this coming December and told him she was already 18..
told us 2 storys about her dad which confused us.. I wish I can remember the exact wording to that right now but its late and my mind is on/off fried..
plus told us 2 stories about brandon (KRamsey) and there were just different times we caught her confusing us because she would tell us 2 stories..
Kat and I aren't talking anymore and i thought she still came here all the time so to save everyone any possible drama I stopped coming to the site
But then a friend (DAZ) told my b/f to get me back on here and my b/f wanted me back on here and people have now told me shes basically no longer on here which makes me feel better about coming back to CC
readable?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:35 pm
by DAZMCFC
mandalorian2298 wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:Bollocks i will standby salva all the way. she is a lovely woman and with her boyfriend VTM i am glad she is back on the forums i missed her alot. i hope she stays on here now and forget about s_x kitten she has not been seen for a while..

*No sooner have this words left DAZMCFC's keyboard, then the powerfull mewl sounded over the peacefull CCers, who quickly shooed their children into their houses. A gush of wind lifted trees in the air, the ground shook and the sky was suddenly shrouded with dark clouds. It was as if the Nature itself shudered before the
RETURN OF THE KITTEN * - from "The Book of Conquer Club"
mandy now stop that or i`ll have to beat your arse again in another game.

Remind me on which map it was, so that I can see if you have left a scar in my soul.

i think it was th great lakes that i whipped your arse.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:38 pm
by Iliad
salvadevinemasse wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
I'm VTMariks G/F... Welcome to the chat. I was only explaining why I was gone mainly.. Its sorta complicated I did a whole thing on it ...It should be readable.
Summery basically though was this:
Kat (S.XKitten) was calling herself a friend and yet wasn't treating me like one.
Instead she was acting like she wanted my b/f
Telling me and him different things Like she told me she was 17 going to turn 18 this coming December and told him she was already 18..
told us 2 storys about her dad which confused us.. I wish I can remember the exact wording to that right now but its late and my mind is on/off fried..
plus told us 2 stories about brandon (KRamsey) and there were just different times we caught her confusing us because she would tell us 2 stories..
Kat and I aren't talking anymore and i thought she still came here all the time so to save everyone any possible drama I stopped coming to the site
But then a friend (DAZ) told my b/f to get me back on here and my b/f wanted me back on here and people have now told me shes basically no longer on here which makes me feel better about coming back to CC
readable?
okay. Got it now. Seems pretty complicated. And where did kitten go?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:38 pm
by mandalorian2298
Iliad wrote:Serbia wrote:Iliad wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

No I said that quote at the end of page 2 and no-one replied so I repeated it.
And then I posted my hypothesis. I am still confused as to what is happening.
Her b/f is VTMarik. I thought everyone knew that.
I might've missed that. So kitten called VTmarik but she didn't call salva? And that's everything? The entire cause of this fight/whaterver it is.
It's easy to miss things when you don't read any posts that have more then a 100 words.

But please, let me write a few SHORT posts so that you could be up-to-date.
And 'Fr' does not mean Freddy, which is also painfully obvious if you read the posts!!!
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:41 pm
by salvadevinemasse
Iliad wrote:salvadevinemasse wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
I'm VTMariks G/F... Welcome to the chat. I was only explaining why I was gone mainly.. Its sorta complicated I did a whole thing on it ...It should be readable.
Summery basically though was this:
Kat (S.XKitten) was calling herself a friend and yet wasn't treating me like one.
Instead she was acting like she wanted my b/f
Telling me and him different things Like she told me she was 17 going to turn 18 this coming December and told him she was already 18..
told us 2 storys about her dad which confused us.. I wish I can remember the exact wording to that right now but its late and my mind is on/off fried..
plus told us 2 stories about brandon (KRamsey) and there were just different times we caught her confusing us because she would tell us 2 stories..
Kat and I aren't talking anymore and i thought she still came here all the time so to save everyone any possible drama I stopped coming to the site
But then a friend (DAZ) told my b/f to get me back on here and my b/f wanted me back on here and people have now told me shes basically no longer on here which makes me feel better about coming back to CC
readable?
okay. Got it now. Seems pretty complicated. And where did kitten go?
My b/f knows that.. cant remember he did tell me tonight.. some thing like she made alot of people mad and basically got alot of shit for it *at least it wasnt just me right?* So she goes to 1 part of the forums and she still plays risk games but thats basically it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:43 pm
by salvadevinemasse
mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Serbia wrote:Iliad wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

No I said that quote at the end of page 2 and no-one replied so I repeated it.
And then I posted my hypothesis. I am still confused as to what is happening.
Her b/f is VTMarik. I thought everyone knew that.
I might've missed that. So kitten called VTmarik but she didn't call salva? And that's everything? The entire cause of this fight/whaterver it is.
It's easy to miss things when you don't read any posts that have more then a 100 words.

But please, let me write a few SHORT posts so that you could be up-to-date.
And 'Fr' does not mean Freddy, which is also painfully obvious if you read the posts!!!
I already explained it mandy. But thank you for the attempt.. if you wanna try still go ahead i'll tell you if your missing something... oh what are you talking about with the fr out of curiosity?
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:45 pm
by mandalorian2298
salvadevinemasse wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Serbia wrote:Iliad wrote:mandalorian2298 wrote:Iliad wrote:Iliad wrote:I really don't understand what's going on here? Who's who's b/f and who wasn't talking to who but was talking to who? If you start some soap opera at least write a synopsis of past events and character lists!
So kitten has a crisis and calls salva's b/f but doesn't call salva? Is that all?
You learned that from you own quote?

No I said that quote at the end of page 2 and no-one replied so I repeated it.
And then I posted my hypothesis. I am still confused as to what is happening.
Her b/f is VTMarik. I thought everyone knew that.
I might've missed that. So kitten called VTmarik but she didn't call salva? And that's everything? The entire cause of this fight/whaterver it is.
It's easy to miss things when you don't read any posts that have more then a 100 words.

But please, let me write a few SHORT posts so that you could be up-to-date.
And 'Fr' does not mean Freddy, which is also painfully obvious if you read the posts!!!
I already explained it mandy. But thank you for the attempt.. if you wanna try still go ahead i'll tell you if your missing something
Thanks I am fine. I am just pissed of that Iliad wants to participate in conversations without reading what other people are saying. (That goes for the "Freddy" thread too)

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:49 pm
by salvadevinemasse
Mandy-
We could be pissed about everything in this world. I'd rather someone ask then just not understand and become ignorant wouldnt you?.. I encourage questions
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:51 pm
by salvadevinemasse
VT and I are going now guys... Hes done working! ttyl
Love you all *Big Hugs* Good to be back!
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:51 pm
by mandalorian2298
salvadevinemasse wrote:Mandy-
We could be pissed about everything in this world. I'd rather someone ask then just not understand and become ignorant wouldnt you?.. I encourage questions
I would read the thread before asking other people to read it for me.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:54 pm
by DAZMCFC
iliad f*ck off. salva is VTMatrik`s bf. she use to be on here a lot and then dissapeared, but now she is back for f*ck sake. she is a very good person.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:58 pm
by mandalorian2298
DAZMCFC wrote:iliad f*ck off. salva is VTMatrik`s
bf. she use to be on here a lot and then dissapeared, but now she is back for f*ck sake. she is a very good person.

