Conquer Club

dcowboys055 wrote:September 2 Northern Colorado W 63-6
September 8 at Louisiana Tech W 45-44 <---1 point win
September 15 at UNLV W 49-14
September 23 Charleston Southern W 66-10
September 29 at Idaho W 48-20
October 7 Utah State W 52-37
October 12 at San Jose State W 42-35 <---7 point win
October 28 New Mexico State W 50-13
November 10 Fresno State W 37-30 <---7 point win
November 16 at Nevada W 28-26
November 23 No. 19 Boise State W 39-27 <---only ranked team
December 1 Washington W 35-28 <---7 point comeback from 21 win

Impressive

I don't see a single L there. Quite impressive indeed. How many other teams went undefeated that are in contention for a BCS bowl bid?

Part of Hawaii's problem was their success in the past against big teams looking to pad the numbers against "easy teams" went out to Hawaii and lost. It does not mean this Hawaii team is or is not good; we just don't know. The last place I want to tune in and find out if a team is good is a BCS game. If they had looked good against Washington or Boise (The only times I actaully watched them) I would possible want to watch and see if they can Boise St. Georgia, but it doesn't look good.

reverend_kyle wrote:

dcowboys055 wrote:September 2 Northern Colorado W 63-6
September 8 at Louisiana Tech W 45-44 <---1 point win
September 15 at UNLV W 49-14
September 23 Charleston Southern W 66-10
September 29 at Idaho W 48-20
October 7 Utah State W 52-37
October 12 at San Jose State W 42-35 <---7 point win
October 28 New Mexico State W 50-13
November 10 Fresno State W 37-30 <---7 point win
November 16 at Nevada W 28-26
November 23 No. 19 Boise State W 39-27 <---only ranked team
December 1 Washington W 35-28 <---7 point comeback from 21 win

Impressive

I don't see a single L there. Quite impressive indeed. How many other teams went undefeated that are in contention for a BCS bowl bid?

lol I'm not going to repeat everything I already said, but there are plenty of 1 loss teams from the best conferences.

dcowboys055 wrote:

reverend_kyle wrote:

dcowboys055 wrote:September 2 Northern Colorado W 63-6
September 8 at Louisiana Tech W 45-44 <---1 point win
September 15 at UNLV W 49-14
September 23 Charleston Southern W 66-10
September 29 at Idaho W 48-20
October 7 Utah State W 52-37
October 12 at San Jose State W 42-35 <---7 point win
October 28 New Mexico State W 50-13
November 10 Fresno State W 37-30 <---7 point win
November 16 at Nevada W 28-26
November 23 No. 19 Boise State W 39-27 <---only ranked team
December 1 Washington W 35-28 <---7 point comeback from 21 win

Impressive

I don't see a single L there. Quite impressive indeed. How many other teams went undefeated that are in contention for a BCS bowl bid?

lol I'm not going to repeat everything I already said, but there are plenty of 1 loss teams from the best conferences.

care to name 1 besides ohio state?

Just to go back on the Hawaii thing. I know they didn't have a tough schedule, but they managed to win every single game (something nobody else did), no matter how close it was. I'm not saying that by going undefeated they are better than LSU, OSU, USC, etc., because I do believe they would get stomped by any of those teams. However, I do think that by going undefeated, they deserve the chance to prove what kind of team they are, hence the BCS Bowl bid. I guess this just goes to show how fucked up the BCS system is right now, and how they need a playoff.

misterman10 wrote:Just to go back on the Hawaii thing. I know they didn't have a tough schedule, but they managed to win every single game (something nobody else did), no matter how close it was. I'm not saying that by going undefeated they are better than LSU, OSU, USC, etc., because I do believe they would get stomped by any of those teams. However, I do think that by going undefeated, they deserve the chance to prove what kind of team they are, hence the BCS Bowl bid. I guess this just goes to show how fucked up the BCS system is right now, and how they need a playoff.

Yes.

Though, I'm not totally convinced about playoffs. I just don't see how it's worth it for the players. Every extra game you play, especially competitive, high-level games, greatly increases your chances of being injured. Being injured can mean missing out on the opportunity to make millions and millions and millions of dollars.

My dream is of an incredibly complicated, totally perfect computational formula. Nix the polls. People will know what counts for what in the formula and will play accordingly. Fairness will prevail. Of course, the tricky part is that the formula would have to be... PERFECT.

0ojakeo0 wrote:

dcowboys055 wrote:

reverend_kyle wrote:

dcowboys055 wrote:September 2 Northern Colorado W 63-6
September 8 at Louisiana Tech W 45-44 <---1 point win
September 15 at UNLV W 49-14
September 23 Charleston Southern W 66-10
September 29 at Idaho W 48-20
October 7 Utah State W 52-37
October 12 at San Jose State W 42-35 <---7 point win
October 28 New Mexico State W 50-13
November 10 Fresno State W 37-30 <---7 point win
November 16 at Nevada W 28-26
November 23 No. 19 Boise State W 39-27 <---only ranked team
December 1 Washington W 35-28 <---7 point comeback from 21 win

Impressive

I don't see a single L there. Quite impressive indeed. How many other teams went undefeated that are in contention for a BCS bowl bid?

lol I'm not going to repeat everything I already said, but there are plenty of 1 loss teams from the best conferences.

care to name 1 besides ohio state?

You're right, after Kansas at 1 loss, you'd have to go 2 loss from the best conferences:

LSU
Georgia
Arizona State
USC
West Virginia
Missouri
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech

of which 2 missed BCS bowls, because of Hawaii. In my mind, that sucks.

misterman10 wrote:Just to go back on the Hawaii thing. I know they didn't have a tough schedule, but they managed to win every single game (something nobody else did), no matter how close it was. I'm not saying that by going undefeated they are better than LSU, OSU, USC, etc., because I do believe they would get stomped by any of those teams. However, I do think that by going undefeated, they deserve the chance to prove what kind of team they are, hence the BCS Bowl bid. I guess this just goes to show how fucked up the BCS system is right now, and how they need a playoff.

Bingo

btownmeggy wrote:

misterman10 wrote:Just to go back on the Hawaii thing. I know they didn't have a tough schedule, but they managed to win every single game (something nobody else did), no matter how close it was. I'm not saying that by going undefeated they are better than LSU, OSU, USC, etc., because I do believe they would get stomped by any of those teams. However, I do think that by going undefeated, they deserve the chance to prove what kind of team they are, hence the BCS Bowl bid. I guess this just goes to show how fucked up the BCS system is right now, and how they need a playoff.

Yes.

Though, I'm not totally convinced about playoffs. I just don't see how it's worth it for the players. Every extra game you play, especially competitive, high-level games, greatly increases your chances of being injured. Being injured can mean missing out on the opportunity to make millions and millions and millions of dollars.

You wont see the players complaining. They'd stay in college forever, of course they wanna play more games

dcowboys055 wrote:

0ojakeo0 wrote:

dcowboys055 wrote:

reverend_kyle wrote:

dcowboys055 wrote:September 2 Northern Colorado W 63-6
September 8 at Louisiana Tech W 45-44 <---1 point win
September 15 at UNLV W 49-14
September 23 Charleston Southern W 66-10
September 29 at Idaho W 48-20
October 7 Utah State W 52-37
October 12 at San Jose State W 42-35 <---7 point win
October 28 New Mexico State W 50-13
November 10 Fresno State W 37-30 <---7 point win
November 16 at Nevada W 28-26
November 23 No. 19 Boise State W 39-27 <---only ranked team
December 1 Washington W 35-28 <---7 point comeback from 21 win

Impressive

I don't see a single L there. Quite impressive indeed. How many other teams went undefeated that are in contention for a BCS bowl bid?

lol I'm not going to repeat everything I already said, but there are plenty of 1 loss teams from the best conferences.

care to name 1 besides ohio state?

You're right, after Kansas at 1 loss, you'd have to go 2 loss from the best conferences:

LSU
Georgia
Arizona State
USC
West Virginia
Missouri
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech

of which 2 missed BCS bowls, because of Hawaii. In my mind, that sucks.

2 teams cant miss it b/c of one team

misterman10 wrote:Just to go back on the Hawaii thing. I know they didn't have a tough schedule, but they managed to win every single game (something nobody else did), no matter how close it was. I'm not saying that by going undefeated they are better than LSU, OSU, USC, etc., because I do believe they would get stomped by any of those teams. However, I do think that by going undefeated, they deserve the chance to prove what kind of team they are, hence the BCS Bowl bid. I guess this just goes to show how fucked up the BCS system is right now, and how they need a playoff.

Okay that I can agree with. I thought you were trying to say they deserved to the NC. Yes, Hawaii should play in a BCS bowl and they got into the Sugar. Now who will win UGA or Hawaii? I'd say GA but it will be a high scoring game on both sides.

Yes the playoff system should be used. Have an 8 team play-off featuring who is believed to be the 8 best teams in the country and for the rest of the teams who have 6+ wins, let them play in the regular bowl games.

0ojakeo0 wrote:

btownmeggy wrote:

misterman10 wrote:Just to go back on the Hawaii thing. I know they didn't have a tough schedule, but they managed to win every single game (something nobody else did), no matter how close it was. I'm not saying that by going undefeated they are better than LSU, OSU, USC, etc., because I do believe they would get stomped by any of those teams. However, I do think that by going undefeated, they deserve the chance to prove what kind of team they are, hence the BCS Bowl bid. I guess this just goes to show how fucked up the BCS system is right now, and how they need a playoff.

Yes.

Though, I'm not totally convinced about playoffs. I just don't see how it's worth it for the players. Every extra game you play, especially competitive, high-level games, greatly increases your chances of being injured. Being injured can mean missing out on the opportunity to make millions and millions and millions of dollars.

You wont see the players complaining. They'd stay in college forever, of course they wanna play more games

Some would complain, some wouldn't. Like btownmeggy said, the to-be NFL players wouldn't want to risk injury when it would cost them their draft stock and money. Just look at Brady Quinn. Had he come out after his Junior year, he would have gone top 11 (since 3 QB's were taken in the top 11). He comes out after his senior year, and BAM, people expected so much from him that even after an excellent year, it wasn't good enough.

On the other hand, I'm sure many players would love to play more football just because they love the game. That, and that they probably don't have a future in football.

I actually am kind of a fan of the +1 game, meaning that the top two bowls would be 1v4 and 2v3, and the winners meet in an additional game, or something to that effect. This keeps the importance of the bowl games in place, and recognizes the fact that the regular season in college football is like the postseason in most other sports, where each loss dramatically impacts the rest of the season. without adding 3 games to the winning team's schedule, and seeing as how there are usually only 1-2 "snubbed" teams who are national-championship caliber but are shut out of the game, and would make millions. Of course, it would mean mobilizing fan bases in a short amount of time, but not so much as a 8 team playoff.

Last thing I'll say, I fully believe Georgia will win by at least 17.

Last thing, or actually, probably not the last thing.

Does anybody else find it stupid how some conferences have conference championships, while others get to sit at home. Take the Big 10 and Big 12. The Big 10 doesn't have a conference championship game, which meant that Ohio State watched the final weekend of games at home. However, the Big 12 DOES have a conference championship game, meaning that Mizzou had to play OU. If they didn't have that game, Mizzou would have easily stayed at #1 and made it to the National Championship game. That's another problem

Sun Bowl! Bought my tickets yesterday!

Can't wait for a firm spanking in beautiful El Paso!

misterman10 wrote:Last thing, or actually, probably not the last thing.

Does anybody else find it stupid how some conferences have conference championships, while others get to sit at home. Take the Big 10 and Big 12. The Big 10 doesn't have a conference championship game, which meant that Ohio State watched the final weekend of games at home. However, the Big 12 DOES have a conference championship game, meaning that Mizzou had to play OU. If they didn't have that game, Mizzou would have easily stayed at #1 and made it to the National Championship game. That's another problem

True, alot of it's the size of the conference. Take the Big 12 and the SEC for example, both have 12 teams so they split them up. While other conferences, such as the Big 10 have less teams and don't split it up. In my opinion, there should be a conference championship for the Big 10.

Hey i told you all that HAWAII would be in.....I want credit for making that call

soundout9 wrote:Hey i told you all that HAWAII would be in.....I want credit for making that call

I think everybody knew Hawaii was going to be in.