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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:30 pm
by 2dimes
Fieryo wrote:It's kind of like baptism.Why not wait till the guy is old enough to make the choice on his own instead of forcing this "mutilation" (not my word) upon him?
If you're talking about it in the context of the covenant of Abraham it's supposed to be done on the 8th day. One medical study states the infant's resistance to infection is at it's peak on that day.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:46 pm
by Fieryo
2dimes wrote:Fieryo wrote:It's kind of like baptism.Why not wait till the guy is old enough to make the choice on his own instead of forcing this "mutilation" (not my word) upon him?
If you're talking about it in the context of the covenant of Abraham it's supposed to be done on the 8th day. One medical study states the infant's resistance to infection is at it's peak on that day.
The only time I talk in religious contexts is when I don't know I'm doing it. No offense.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:50 pm
by 2dimes
Well that's fair enough. I completely agree with you baptism should be something an adult makes a choice to do. This one is specifically suposed to be done on day 8 though. So there's no question of when if the reason is that religion.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:07 pm
by AndyDufresne
I remember reading recently about the some of the health benefits of circumcision, especially in regards to HIV. A study was conducted in Africa (as I'm sure you know where there are extreme problems in regards to HIV/AIDS), and found a 70% reduction in the risk of contracting the disease. The link describes an article I read.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8473838/
--Andy
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:20 pm
by hecter
AndyDufresne wrote:I remember reading recently about the some of the health benefits of circumcision, especially in regards to HIV. A study was conducted in Africa (as I'm sure you know where there are extreme problems in regards to HIV/AIDS), and found a 70% reduction in the risk of contracting the disease. The link describes an article I read.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8473838/--Andy
She mentioned that in the first post...
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:33 pm
by InkL0sed
Anarkistsdream wrote:My response is yes... I am circumcised and my cock is beautiful.
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:55 pm
by apey
uncircumcised p-p's r ugly so i am with AD do it for the beauty
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:59 pm
by OnlyAmbrose
Aside from the various religious traditions tied to it, isn't it recognized as a sanitary and health benefit these days?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:00 am
by hecter
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Aside from the various religious traditions tied to it, isn't it recognized as a sanitary and health benefit these days?
Only if you never clean it...
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:01 am
by InkL0sed
Circumcised men have an evolutionary advantage. So yes.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:01 am
by btownmeggy
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Aside from the various religious traditions tied to it, isn't it recognized as a sanitary and health benefit these days?
Well, what are "these days"? 1940s, yes. 2000s, it is hotly debated... as evidenced by circumcision's quickly declining rates of prevalence in the US, its last first-world hold-out.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:04 am
by apey
It is getting expensive and the government and alot of insurance companies will no longer cover the cost as it is considered cosmetic not medical necessity so that is Y it has declined in popularity
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:05 am
by OnlyAmbrose
Well it's just like... does it really matter? Is society going to collapse because American boys don't know what a "real" penis looks like? And on the flip side, is it going to collapse if they do? I don't really see this is a big social issue, lol
I know I'm happy I'm circumcised... well, at the very least I'm not unhappy about it. And most girls I know have always seemed horror-struck at the idea that there are guys out there who
aren't.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:44 am
by Beastly
I am Curious...
Is Fellatio possible for uncircumcised men? And also, does hair grow on Foreskin?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:02 am
by Skittles!
Beastly wrote:I am Curious...
Is Fellatio possible for uncircumcised men? And also, does hair grow on Foreskin?
No, hair does not grow on the foreskin..
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:33 am
by The Factory
Personally, I'd leave it up to the kid whether or not he wanted to be circumcised, and while I am mostly against it I will say this, back a few years ago when I worked in a nursing home I'd perform a procedure on many residents called perineal care (or "peri care" as it was referred to by the staff) in which, essentially, you clean the resident's genitalia, and I can safely say that uncircumcised men smelled horribly (causing me to nearly vomit in one case, this happened after I had been cleaning day-old feces off patients for some time.) as opposed to the circumcised men. It really is a stench unlike anything I have ever smelled.
But most importantly, I don't feel it really matters either way, while I do feel it isn't the right of the parent to make elective decisions on behalf of the child I don't think it's something to really get involved in.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:00 am
by Spockers
AndyDufresne wrote:I remember reading recently about the some of the health benefits of circumcision, especially in regards to HIV. A study was conducted in Africa (as I'm sure you know where there are extreme problems in regards to HIV/AIDS), and found a 70% reduction in the risk of contracting the disease. The link describes an article I read.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8473838/--Andy
This was a study that was poory carried out, full of half truths and misleading conclusions.
In the study carried out, 47 of the 1,391 uncircumcised men contracted HIV during the two-year study, compared with 22 of the 1,393 circumcised men.
That's hardly convincing evidence.
Besides, that was carried out in AIDS ridden africa, so the same circumstances hardly matter in western culture. Follow up study (found in the related links in the above website):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22096758/
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:29 am
by whitestazn88
i dont know if this has been said, but scientific research in 2007 showed that circumsicion reduced the contraception of HIV/AIDS by 51%... you gotta get that dick cut
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:53 am
by Skittles!
whitestazn88 wrote:i dont know if this has been said, but scientific research in 2007 showed that circumsicion reduced the contraception of HIV/AIDS by 51%... you gotta get that dick cut
Erm, you do know you don't cut the
whole fucking dick off, only the foreskin, right?
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:03 am
by bellaraphon
Skittles! wrote:Erm, you do know you don't cut the whole fucking dick off, only the foreskin, right?
my doc got it all wrong then...
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:10 am
by Beastly
So.. what about fellatio? Is that possible for uncircumcised.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:15 am
by bellaraphon
yes both look the same when erect anyway
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:27 am
by Skittles!
Beastly wrote:So.. what about fellatio? Is that possible for uncircumcised.
You need to look at some gay porn sites..
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:01 am
by Snorri1234
Beastly wrote:So.. what about fellatio? Is that possible for uncircumcised.
Man it would be a serious bummer if it wasn't.
Uncircumcised and circumcised look the same anyway when erect, as bellaraphon said. The foreskin only covers the tip when it's flacid.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:01 am
by Dancing Mustard
Beastly wrote:Is Fellatio possible for uncircumcised men?
I'm not trying to be sleazy here or anything, but why on earth do you imagine that it wouldn't be? Precisely what is it that you think would be different about the experience for uncircumcised and circumcised men? Are you under the illusion that the foreskin remains over the glans during erection? Please explain the reasoning behind your question here, because I cannot for the life of me imagine what it is that prompted you to ask it (i.e. why you think it might not be)
Anywaym, please provide a little clarification for me here, because I'm not quite sure what sort of notions about uncircumcised penises you're burdened with. No offence, but you've clearly never been in contact with one, and I can't help but think that your thinking may be being clouded by several incorrect assumptions.
PS, can anybody find that old thread on this subject? There was an extremely good article written on this subject, from a female perspective, that it linked to, and I think that some of our non-penis-weilding readers might benefit from seeing it dispell some (suprisingly prevelant) myths.