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Conquer Club • Can anyone justify this for me? - Page 2
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:01 pm
by Guiscard
Well your age of consent is 21 in the first place. Everything else after that is just adding insult to injury.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:24 pm
by Iz Man
I grew up in Syracuse, NY. I moved to western Mass in '99.
In the 'Cuse you could buy beer on Sunday after 12 noon, but not liquor at all. Weird. It worked out ok for football games anyways....
In Mass you cannot buy any alcohol on Sundays. What makes this even more ridiculous is because I live close to the VT border, even though I am in Mass, I can buy booze on Sunday.
These out of date "blue laws" need to go away.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:04 pm
by Guiscard
Iz Man wrote:These out of date "blue laws" need to go away.


But... but... The constitution!

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:25 pm
by unriggable
Iz Man wrote:I grew up in Syracuse, NY. I moved to western Mass in '99.
In the 'Cuse you could buy beer on Sunday after 12 noon, but not liquor at all. Weird. It worked out ok for football games anyways....
In Mass you cannot buy any alcohol on Sundays. What makes this even more ridiculous is because I live close to the VT border, even though I am in Mass, I can buy booze on Sunday.
These out of date "blue laws" need to go away.


Blue laws?

Do...do they have special inks now that they write these in?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:32 pm
by btownmeggy
Guiscard wrote:
Iz Man wrote:These out of date "blue laws" need to go away.


But... but... The constitution!


The thing is: most of these laws are holdovers from a Constitutional Amendment that was so stupid in the first place, hugely disliked, and on top of it all, such a blatant abuse of the Constitution, that it was quickly repealed.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:34 pm
by Gregrios
It's simple dog. Liquir stores are run by the government. And people employed by the government don't work on Sundays. The only way we'll ever have the availablity to purchase boos on Sundays will be if boos become sellable by citizens. Or if the government changes it's standards. Which actually could happen in the near future. But for right now, one could say that the government is only respecting God's wishes. You know, keeping the sabbath and all.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:37 pm
by btownmeggy
Gregrios wrote:It's simple dog. Liquir stores are run by the government.


Not in most states.

Gregrios wrote:And people employed by the government don't work on Sundays.


Cops, firemen, bus drivers, park rangers, janitors, tour guides, and jail wardens don't work on Sundays??

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:47 pm
by Gregrios
btownmeggy wrote:
Gregrios wrote:It's simple dog. Liquir stores are run by the government.


Not in most states.

Gregrios wrote:And people employed by the government don't work on Sundays.


Cops, firemen, bus drivers, park rangers, janitors, tour guides, and jail wardens don't work on Sundays??


Well I don't know about the states but in Canada only privately owned stores can sell liquir on Sundays.

And for 2nd comment. Give your head a shake. I mean seriously. Do you not see a difference between a cashier and cop\firefighter? One is needed and one is not.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:53 pm
by Iz Man
Guiscard wrote:
Iz Man wrote:These out of date "blue laws" need to go away.


But... but... The constitution!

I see your sarcasm, however, these laws in question are not in the constitution.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:57 pm
by Iz Man
unriggable wrote:Blue laws?

Do...do they have special inks now that they write these in?
Have you not heard the term before?
unriggable wrote:A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I don't recall there being an amendment in the constitution banning women from wearing short skirts. There is, however, the right to keep & bear arms.
Lets not digress from the topic please.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:59 pm
by btownmeggy
Gregrios wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
Gregrios wrote:It's simple dog. Liquir stores are run by the government.


Not in most states.

Gregrios wrote:And people employed by the government don't work on Sundays.


Cops, firemen, bus drivers, park rangers, janitors, tour guides, and jail wardens don't work on Sundays??


Well I don't know about the states but in Canada only privately owned stores can sell liquir on Sundays.

And for 2nd comment. Give your head a shake. I mean seriously. Do you not see a difference between a cashier and cop\firefighter? One is needed and one is not.


In practically all US states, liquor stores are privately owned, but very heavily regulated.

And... tour guides at historical buildings? Needed? The customer service rep that I can call to discuss my power bill on Sundays? Needed? LOTS of government employees work on Sundays, employees of all types of NEEDEDNESS. This is, of course, a debate topic that has nothing to do with this thread, but I can't just sit by and let you malign the goodness of state-run industries, which is obviously your intention.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:40 pm
by Napoleon Ier
I went to America a couple of years back and was asked to leave a restaurant because I was drinking non-alcoholic beer.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:19 pm
by Jamie
In Sharp County Arkansas, you can't buy alcohol ever. It is a dry county. Oddly enough you can possess alcohol there, you just can't sell it, or buy it there. Kind of pointless to have a dry county if you are still allowed to possess alcohol.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:07 pm
by Snowpepsi
Napoleon Ier wrote:I went to America a couple of years back and was asked to leave a restaurant because I was drinking non-alcoholic beer.



Did you bring it in with you? Or did you order it there? They have rules about "no outside food or beverages".

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:10 pm
by Mr_Adams
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:22 pm
by unriggable
Iz Man wrote:
unriggable wrote:Blue laws?

Do...do they have special inks now that they write these in?
Have you not heard the term before?
unriggable wrote:A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I don't recall there being an amendment in the constitution banning women from wearing short skirts. There is, however, the right to keep & bear arms.
Lets not digress from the topic please.


It was a joke...nice sense of humor...

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:01 pm
by Iz Man
unriggable wrote:
Iz Man wrote:
unriggable wrote:Blue laws?

Do...do they have special inks now that they write these in?
Have you not heard the term before?
unriggable wrote:A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I don't recall there being an amendment in the constitution banning women from wearing short skirts. There is, however, the right to keep & bear arms.
Lets not digress from the topic please.


It was a joke...nice sense of humor...

My apologies. Its hard to tell sometimes. 8)

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:02 pm
by Iz Man
Jamie wrote:In Sharp County Arkansas, you can't buy alcohol ever. It is a dry county. Oddly enough you can possess alcohol there, you just can't sell it, or buy it there. Kind of pointless to have a dry county if you are still allowed to possess alcohol.

Now for some good irony. Lynchburg, TN, home of the Jack Daniel's distillery, is a dry county.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:38 pm
by btownmeggy
Mr_Adams wrote:
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...


Yes, it is. It's in several Supreme Court decisions. Which are laws.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:52 pm
by Gregrios
btownmeggy wrote:
Gregrios wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:
Gregrios wrote:It's simple dog. Liquir stores are run by the government.


Not in most states.

Gregrios wrote:And people employed by the government don't work on Sundays.


Cops, firemen, bus drivers, park rangers, janitors, tour guides, and jail wardens don't work on Sundays??


Well I don't know about the states but in Canada only privately owned stores can sell liquir on Sundays.

And for 2nd comment. Give your head a shake. I mean seriously. Do you not see a difference between a cashier and cop\firefighter? One is needed and one is not.


In practically all US states, liquor stores are privately owned, but very heavily regulated.

And... tour guides at historical buildings? Needed? The customer service rep that I can call to discuss my power bill on Sundays? Needed? LOTS of government employees work on Sundays, employees of all types of NEEDEDNESS. This is, of course, a debate topic that has nothing to do with this thread, but I can't just sit by and let you malign the goodness of state-run industries, which is obviously your intention.


Ok. You bring up some good points.

Although you DO understand what I'm saying, I should probably rephrase the way I described it anyway. How about this:

GOVERNMENT MERCHANDISE ESTABLISHMENTS!

Hows that for you miss picky?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:40 pm
by Neoteny
Mr_Adams wrote:
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...


Also, god isn't in the constitution.

Let me rephrase: What's your point?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:42 pm
by Frigidus
Neoteny wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...


Also, god isn't in the constitution.

Let me rephrase: What's your point?


Perhaps I've misunderstood Mr. Adams' opinions in the past, but I believe he feels that America is essentially a Christian country and should adhere to Christian morality.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:44 pm
by Neoteny
Frigidus wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...


Also, god isn't in the constitution.

Let me rephrase: What's your point?


Perhaps I've misunderstood Mr. Adams' opinions in the past, but I believe he feels that America is essentially a Christian country and should adhere to Christian morality.


I will let him speak for himself, but if that is the case, then he can decidedly piss off. :D

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:46 pm
by Herakilla
Frigidus wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...


Also, god isn't in the constitution.

Let me rephrase: What's your point?


Perhaps I've misunderstood Mr. Adams' opinions in the past, but I believe he feels that America is essentially a Christian country and should adhere to Christian morality.


thats the thing, america also has freedom of religion so whos to say what is teh right one here?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:48 pm
by Frigidus
Herakilla wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Mr_Adams wrote:
suggs wrote:First, RESPECT TO THE FEYNMAN!
Secondly, that is a complete nonsense- I didnt realise different states had different alcohol laws.
What abou the seperatio of church and state?
My blood is boiling on your behalf. :evil:

Go out get pissed, and sing Propaghandi unti you are hoarse.


just like to point out that nowhere in any law is seperation of church and state mentioned...


Also, god isn't in the constitution.

Let me rephrase: What's your point?


Perhaps I've misunderstood Mr. Adams' opinions in the past, but I believe he feels that America is essentially a Christian country and should adhere to Christian morality.


thats the thing, america also has freedom of religion so whos to say what is teh right one here?


I agree, but his argument is that because the founders were mostly Christian that the country is Christian. A bit too much reliance on people who have been long dead for my taste, but hey, that describes most of Christianity for me.